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Republican Gay Rights Group Demands Apology from Santorum
CBS News ^ | September 23, 2011 | Lucy Madison

Posted on 09/23/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by lbryce

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To: papertyger
I hope you're right, but I haven't seen any evidence of intestinal fortitude among the current crop of candidates.

I was a career officer in the service and if this policy to allow gays to serve openly stands, I will do everything in my power to keep my children out of the service.

The reason for a military service is to train and prepare to defend your country to the best of your ability - not to serve as a dating service for deviants.

201 posted on 09/23/2011 2:34:02 PM PDT by Chainmail
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To: scripter; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Jim Robinson; skeeter; Mach9; papertyger; DJ MacWoW; ...
All through out this thread I - and others - have demanded that trumandogz clearly state his position on gays serving in the military.
 
Direct statements, challenges and questions  - here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here have been made by numerous FReepers:
 
Are you in favor of gays serving in the military.
 
He won't answer them. I normally don't call for the zot if there are only 4 or 5 vague answers that might lead one to think someone is pro-gay. But 10-11 times (and more) trumandogz refuses to answer a fundamental question regarding a basic conservative value?
 
What's up?


202 posted on 09/23/2011 2:44:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Ooops. My final 'here' should have directed you to post 198.

203 posted on 09/23/2011 2:51:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My answer is quite simple and I have stated it several times.

I opposed the repeal of DADT.

Therefore, I oppose gays serving openly.

And I understand that if they serve in secret, there is nothing that can be done as their orientation is not known to others in the military.


204 posted on 09/23/2011 3:06:09 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Responsibility2nd

Is it possible that he doesn’t want to discuss the issue with you?


205 posted on 09/23/2011 3:09:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Now that it has been determined that we are required to answer each others questions.

Should we eradicate the names of gay service members whose names are now on the Vietnam Memorial?

206 posted on 09/23/2011 3:42:33 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
No. They died in service to our country.

However, I do not believe that homosexuals belong in the military.

207 posted on 09/23/2011 3:46:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

No, it’s not, We have been discussing this issue for hours
He simply wont answer a direct question.


208 posted on 09/23/2011 3:49:39 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Unless your name is Jim Robinson, does he have to?


209 posted on 09/23/2011 3:50:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trumandogz

And there we are. You oppose them serving openly.

But you are OK with them serving secretly. That is, you were OK with DADT.


210 posted on 09/23/2011 4:03:19 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: trumandogz
Should we eradicate the names of gay service members whose names are now on the Vietnam Memorial?

Only those names identified as serving while openly homosexual.

211 posted on 09/23/2011 4:04:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: trumandogz; Responsibility2nd; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; scripter; P-Marlowe; metmom; xzins; ...
My answer is quite simple and I have stated it several times.

I opposed the repeal of DADT.

Therefore, I oppose gays serving openly.

And I understand that if they serve in secret, there is nothing that can be done as their orientation is not known to others in the military.

Do you oppose homosexuals serving the the military whether secretly or openly? YES or NO.

212 posted on 09/23/2011 4:55:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“Do you oppose homosexuals serving the the military whether secretly or openly? YES or NO.”

Nice try Wagglebee. But he ain’t answering that.

As I’ve said all day - trumandogz is nothing but sneaky and evasive. So I’ve been calling him out as a pro gay military troll.

Now, He opposes the repeal of DADT? Whoop-de-do. Why won’t he simply state that the military should return to DO ASK - DO TELL?

And that if you answer yes to being a homo on your indoctrination forms, then you are shown the door and told to get lost.

You see, secretly gay or not - Homosexuals have no place in the military.

But trumandogz will not admit that.


213 posted on 09/23/2011 6:49:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why are you so obsessed with my answering one question when you refuse to answer a simple question?

Would you boo the gay who served in Iraq or Afghanistan, or advocate scrapping the names of gays off the Vietnam Wall or would you exhume the bodies of gays who are buried in our Veterans Cemeteries?


214 posted on 09/23/2011 8:42:31 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

Scroll up troll. I’ve answered those questions.

Here are the answers again.

1. Yes I would boo any gay soldier who made it his goal to disgrace the military.

2. Yes I would scrape any gay names off the Vietnam Wall. Show me a name and the designation “Gay” beside it. I’ll scrape it off.

3. Yes I would exhume bodies. Show me a body who can claim he was a gay soldier - I’ll dig him up myself.

Are your listening to how stupid your questions are?

Look. You can hypothesize about non-existent issues all day long.

And you can keep ignoring the simple questions I and others have put to you.

But you cannot deny that you are pro gay military.


215 posted on 09/23/2011 8:58:52 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: lonevoice

She used the term “Queen of Fabulous” to describe her self, she also has dated the likes of Bill Maher. Hannity told her if she mentions Chris Cristie one more time on hsi show he will start talking about her leftist boyfriends......

She is nothing but a closet liberal waiting to turn on us after she pockets millions......

So what would you call her?


216 posted on 09/24/2011 7:08:48 AM PDT by stockpirate ("A people get the leaders they deserve......")
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To: stockpirate

It wasn’t “Queen of Fabulous” I objected to, and I’d guess you know that. I wouldn’t call her, or any woman, a sl*t. Apparently admin mod agreed.


217 posted on 09/24/2011 8:29:42 AM PDT by lonevoice (The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, impeach we much)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I'm sick and tired of these small minority groups receiving so much attention: they are a dis-functional lot that need
extensive therapy and counseling.
218 posted on 09/24/2011 8:43:50 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: upcountryhorseman
they are a dis-functional lot that need extensive therapy and counseling.

Yes. They do. Their mental illness is no different than stating they're Napoleon or Cleopatra. Their dysfunction is mental and needs treatment, not acceptance.

219 posted on 09/24/2011 8:47:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: lonevoice

Well what kind of women dates Bill Maher?


220 posted on 09/24/2011 10:07:11 AM PDT by stockpirate ("A people get the leaders they deserve......")
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