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The attack on Egyptian Christians was not sectarian. We will uncover the truth
The Guardian ^ | Monday 10 October 2011 | Ahdaf Soueif

Posted on 10/10/2011 3:44:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Edited on 10/10/2011 4:44:11 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

So it's happened again: Egyptian Christians have been killed and the ether is ablaze with talk of "sectarian violence" and the absence of "law and order". And that's exactly what the ether is being set up to do.

This latest outrage, leaving 25 people dead, is yet one more episode in the dirty drama we hoped our revolution would pull the final curtain on. It beggars belief that it continues, and that it elicits the same obsolete responses.


(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: arabspring; egypt; islamisterrorism; israel; jihadists; religionofpieces
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1 posted on 10/10/2011 3:44:12 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
And now this happens. And Hillary Clinton offers to come in and "protect the Christian minority". So who wrote this latest episode? Who is working our perceived sectarian faultline to derail the revolution? Well this must be a lie. So the rest of the story is as well.
2 posted on 10/10/2011 3:52:41 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I have a dear friend who is a coptic Christian who grew up in Egypt and moved to my US town as an adult. She says this is the worse it has ever been in Egypt. The Muslims are on a mission to rid Egypt of Christians. Why oh why has the world turned a blind eye. One Christian killed for their faith—we are all even the secular folks in great danger.


3 posted on 10/10/2011 3:55:31 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: GOP Poet

my youngest aged 8 has a new boy in his class, darker skin, speaks with accent
I saw his mother and heard her talking to her mother and it sounded more like Arabic.

I asked her where she was from and she said Egypt and so I asked her when did she move over and she replied a month ago.

I was interested and I sat down with her talking and she told me she was a coptic Christian and that she escaped with her family due to muslims and their violence.

She told me about all the uprising, the western media who she said was not telling all the truth and how the country is now.

She said it was awful over there and that Christian men now are patrolling their areas, guarding their churches and that they feel betrayed by this administration and our media.

I asked her why she moved here to my town and she replied it is well known that my town St Augustine was the first place where the Christian prayer was ever said and that they wanted a Christian town to live in as her religion was very important to her and her family.
I was shocked as I know this was the first place where a prayer was ever said but I did not know they knew over there considering most over here have no clue.
She even knew the over 200 foot cross we have at the sight of the first prayer.

Luckily she had relatives in FL and so could escape and do the paper work but many cannot get over here.


4 posted on 10/10/2011 4:06:23 PM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: GOP Poet

my youngest aged 8 has a new boy in his class, darker skin, speaks with accent
I saw his mother and heard her talking to her mother and it sounded more like Arabic.

I asked her where she was from and she said Egypt and so I asked her when did she move over and she replied a month ago.

I was interested and I sat down with her talking and she told me she was a coptic Christian and that she escaped with her family due to muslims and their violence.

She told me about all the uprising, the western media who she said was not telling all the truth and how the country is now.

She said it was awful over there and that Christian men now are patrolling their areas, guarding their churches and that they feel betrayed by this administration and our media.

I asked her why she moved here to my town and she replied it is well known that my town St Augustine was the first place where the Christian prayer was ever said and that they wanted a Christian town to live in as her religion was very important to her and her family.
I was shocked as I know this was the first place where a prayer was ever said but I did not know they knew over there considering most over here have no clue.
She even knew the over 200 foot cross we have at the sight of the first prayer.

Luckily she had relatives in FL and so could escape and do the paper work but many cannot get over here.


5 posted on 10/10/2011 4:07:19 PM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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To: MinorityRepublican

So now we see what can happen here if Christians become the minority. The religion of peace will tell you that you have no right to even exist.


6 posted on 10/10/2011 4:08:38 PM PDT by RC2
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To: GOP Poet

The media now cannot be bothered to report over there in great detail like they did before I guess looking at a few hundred protesters who have not had a shower for a couple of weeks banging their drum and doing little dances and dressing as zombies is much more news to our media .


7 posted on 10/10/2011 4:08:59 PM PDT by manc (Don't fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage= 1man+1 woman)
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Thank you so much for that beautiful, but also sad story. God bless that woman and her family. Yes. She has also told you what my friend has told me about how the media lies and the government lies and condones and now outright killing. The courage of the Christian there is amazing, but also glad she had the ability to come here for her and her families safety.

Yes. As you mentioned where is our media on this? Where is the outrage?

8 posted on 10/10/2011 4:23:04 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It was not sectarian mob violence, just official sectarian violence in order to stir up sectarian mob violence. I want a six eggs, not a half dozen. Make sure to note the distinction.


9 posted on 10/10/2011 4:23:30 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is where the islamists loyal to the Ayatollah sieze control of the country.


10 posted on 10/10/2011 5:08:22 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

And it wasn’t a group of Muzzie Arabs who mass-murdered thousands on 9/11.

She’s just another hate-filled demagogue.

Thanks MinorityRepublican.

http://www.ahdafsoueif.com/news.htm

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/palestine/programs/featuredevent.html


11 posted on 10/10/2011 5:16:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: manc

That is an incredible and sad story. Welcome to this woman and her family. Thank goodness she found you to talk with. Thank you for sharing her story, this needs to be heard,.


12 posted on 10/10/2011 5:54:57 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Looks like a crucible.


13 posted on 10/10/2011 7:06:51 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: Eleutheria5
I saw a video of ‘Egyptian military tanks’ deliberately plowing thru the protesters.. running them over as they went...steering into the crowds as they attempted to out run the drivers....who clearly had intentions of killing any in their path. It was unbelievable to see!
14 posted on 10/10/2011 7:27:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: Winstons Julia

We are seeing anger in our cities via ‘the Obama Thug-a-thon’ stirring up his most admiring supporters...and that in itself is alarming.

Imagine Muslims, who have been indoctrinated to hate with a passion from infancy throughout adulthood , being encouraged to attack Christians or any others who are not Muslims. Their rage is evident....and beyond comprehension...once ignited it will always lead to death of innocent people...because they are too afraid of their own people who have created the beasts that they are.


15 posted on 10/10/2011 7:35:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: MinorityRepublican

There has long been some violence by Muslims in Egypt against Coptic Christians, and Mubarak seemed largely to ignore it.

But Mubarak was far better than the current situation. The Generals, when it became clear that the Arab Spring could not be prevented and that Obama and the EU supported it, ceased to protect Coptic Christians AT ALL. They simply stood there and let violent fanatics burn churches and kill Christians. They even blocked the police—who behaved better, at least at first—from interfering.

The attack on the Israeli embassy was similar. The military simply stood by for hours, while fanatics assaulted the embassy. Defense of foreign embassies is one of the most basic tasks of the police or military, but the Generals obviously gave orders to stand by and do nothing.

And this is after the U.S. has poured billions of dollars in aid into Egypt ever since Carter arranged the agreement.
Bad enough then, absolutely awful now. And the press stood by and lied, even after one of their members was gang raped.


16 posted on 10/10/2011 8:01:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: manc

Thank you for taking the time to tell us about your conversation. God help the poor Christians who are still stuck there.


17 posted on 10/10/2011 8:12:45 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ve known a fair number of Coptic Christians who immigrated to the US from Egypt. They all describe it as a horrible place for Christians; some even recount literally having to run for their lives from Muslim mobs. They tend to be pretty fierce in their attitudes toward Muslims, and understandably so. Much like how Israeli Jews with backgrounds in Muslim lands (rather than, say, Europe) tend to be among the most hawkish regarding Israel’s Muslim enemies.


18 posted on 10/10/2011 8:55:34 PM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: manc

I thought that Muslims live in harmony with Christian and Jewish minorities under Shariah law. Knock me over with a feather!


19 posted on 10/10/2011 9:52:58 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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