Skip to comments.Gingrich seeks middle path on immigration
Posted on 10/14/2011 7:15:24 AM PDT by PelhamEdited on 10/14/2011 8:14:16 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Newt Gingrich called for a middle path on immigration reform – implying a limited amnesty – as he made his presidential campaign pitch to the Republican-friendly Hispanic 100 on Thursday at the Newport Beach’s Balboa Bay Club.
“Both sides are wrong,” he said to the 300 gathered at group’s annual black-tie gala. “Those who say, ‘Kick everybody out’ – they’re wrong. Those who say, ‘Give amnesty to everyone’ – they’re wrong.
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Way to stick both feet in your mouth at the same time Newt.
I knew it was just a matter of time before Newt would do or say something stupid (again) and basically destroy that little Mo that he had going on.
Newt supporters, there is a conservative running at the front of the pack that could use your support and HE doesn’t want to sell out your nation to the third world invaders.
His name is Herman Cain.
Middle Path?! Don’t even want to hear it. Newt’s looking to get the indies. He’ll soon find that his numbers will suffer with this “middle path” BS.
Newt needs to spend a week at the side of Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
Newt is insulated from the immigration problem.
He’ll be getting my vote but with a clothespin. :(
Best of a bad batch.
“Way to stick both feet in your mouth at the same time Newt.”
Considering some of his past stunts he’s probably used to it.
Newt is just plain heavily insulated.
The only things in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and road kill.
We shouldn’t expect anything else from him. He’s been soft on immigration all along. This is part of his beltway elite mentality.
For those who came here legally, I agree. I am strongly in favor of legal immigration and approve of hard-working, educated immigrants who come here and become part of the American melting pot. For those who enter illegally, my feelings are the exact opposite. Any illegal caught on American soil should be fingerprinted and permanently barred from all paths to citizenship and then expelled from our country and billed for the costs of tossing his tail back south of the border. Those recaptured should be forced to work off the costs of enforcing the law against them, and then tossed out of our country.
ay, there's the rub
I guess Newt hasn’t been paying attention to Perry’s recent difficulties.
Does Newt have a political death wish? Everytime we start do like him he does something assine like this.
"And we must recognize that some peopel who came here legally are deeply imbedded in our culture.."
One would indeed hope so..
One answer is a 6-Month Temporary Work Visa.... HOWEVER - the solution is to make it so that you CAN NOT get one of those, nor renew one, IN the US.
All illegals would have to return to Mexico to get one.
Screen them (no felons, or criminals, &c.) and then track them. The fees could include the price of a bus ticket home to get that renewal. Failure to comply means no more American dream for you, Hombre.
It’s just a thought. Try not to flame me too hard.
I L L E G A L L Y!
What is it about the word "ILLEGAL" these half-wit's REFUSE to understand?
EVERYWHERE AND ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD, if you are in their country ILLEGALLY, you are ARRESTED and DEPORTED!
How dare Newt say that LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, who want to uphold the rule of law ARE W R O N G for wanting to treat ILLEGAL ALIENS the same way they are treated everywhere else in the world and for wanting to protect our borders and our OWN CITIZENS!
Someone needs to knock some sense into Newt's head. It looks like he has crawled back on that couch with the Democrats and Nancy Pelosi
What’s a middle way for breaking into somebody’s house ?
Gingrich gives middle finger on immigration.
Pure BS. You can't be a little bit pregnant. Legalizing lawbreakers because they are "deeply imbeded in our culture," is pure sophistry. What exactly does "imbeded in our culture mean?" And why should that be the criterion for legalization? Gingrich is an amnesty supporter no matter how he tries to cover it up with his BS.
And this is EXACTLY one of the reasons why Newt is death for the conservatives in this country. The current law doesn’t mean a damned thing to him. His obviously superior academic intellect re: the challenges and futility of adhering to immigration laws as they exist now are just too damned much for the normal conservative American to ponder.
This whiz boy assessment from a country that beat back the world in WWII, built the Panama Canal, sent a man to the moon, and on and on and on....Bullshit, Newt!
Huh???? "Came here legally????"
Please tell me that the word is a typo and he truly meant to say or perhaps did say, "illegally," or is Newt doing what he's done in the past, find out which way the moderate winds are blowing and pretend to be ahead of them.
Nope Newtie, people who came here illegally, speak only or mostly Spanish, have Mexican flags all over their cars, homes, cheer for Mexican soccer teams over American......and on and on, are not "deeply embedded in our culture."
Go back to hugging Pelosi and Hillary and pretend you've joined the "middle way."
Newt’s just trying to make sure he’s on the right side of the issue for his backers, so that when the candidate puts him on the ticket as VP (all the noise here made for this cheatin’ closet lefty has lately brought that idiot idea to the table again), he’ll have made his position clear thru Newt.
I’d never vote for a ticket that had that weasel on it, just as I would never vote for Giuliani. A man who will cheat on his wife, who he presumably knows well enough to swear before God he’ll love, honor, and cherish her, why would he not screw over voters and a Constitution he’s never met?
Those who propose a “middle path” always fail to answer one important question. Once they become legal, then they are able to bring over, legally, all their family members..
What do you expect? He’s a Hobbit from Middle Earth...
This is exactly why trusting Newt is suicide for conservatives.
It's that good a place to live.
On the other hand there are GAZILLIONS of people in this world who'd like to live here but they can't just step across a line out in the desert to do that.
Lyndon Johnson's regime recognized that and eliminated the old National Origins immigration laws. Simultaneously neither LBJ nor anyone else at the time proposed replacing them with a "90% of the places for Mexicans" system.
What Newt and people like him propose doing is eliminating the immigration laws and letting in no one but Mexicans.
Sorry Newt, it ain't gonna' happen. I want 10% of the numbers set aside so I and my associates can bring in graduate engineers and top end computer technicians and others from India and Pakistan.
We know we can clear the decks in China of fellows with PhDs if necessary.
No 10% setaside, no deal Newt! You'll just have to limp along with the OLD THIRD WAY, that is, enforce current laws vigorously and thoroughly.
That means sending the illegal entrants back to their own countries.
Doin it while the police watch and do nothing.
Sounds like Newt is bound and determined to sabotage the recent gains he's made with the voters. And no one says the above except a tiny number of extremists and, unfortunately, cowardly politicians who use it to avoid taking a sensible stand such as: enforce the border and enforce the law and allow gradual self-deportation.
I guess Newt just couldn't stand his success in the recent debates.
This country and THIS economy is past the point where ‘middle ground’ on ANY issue will fly.
No serious candidate can afford to be ignorant of this
Yes, and when you reward something, you get more of it. We have a one-time amnesty in 1986. The proponents promised profusely dthere would never be another one. The USG estimated that 1 million would apply and the true number turned out to be 2.7 miullion. We are still getting legal immigrants from that amnesty thru chain migration and now we have an estimated 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country.
Is that much different than what’s going on now ?
The article doesn’t day what his “middle path” is.
Anyone who is serious about illegal immigration needs to start their plan with building a complete east-to-west physical fence.
Stop the flow.
Then, anyone who is serious about illegal immigration needs to have a plan for anchor babies.
Stop the loopholes.
Then, anyone who is serious about illegal immigration needs to have a plan to ENFORCE existing hiring laws.
Stop the incentive to enter the country illegally.
Any talk of amnesty of any type is really a fourth-tier priority. It makes no sense to showcase a candidate’s policy on amnesty when the candidate is unwilling to consider how to stop illegal immigration from getting worse.
In explaining immigration laws in this country I've equated this country to being a membership warehouse store filled to the rafters with everything you could want. Unfortunately, at the front of the store there is a long line that seemingly goes on forever of people waiting to get their turn at the desk where they will have to fill out endless forms and pay huge fees. While those people wait in line at the front of the store they are looking out and seeing that the back of the store has no wall and people are coming and going as they please and taking what they want. There is definitely a problem at the back of the store that needs to be fixed first, but there is also a problem at the front of the store that also needs to be addressed. Personally, I would like to see a point system as used in some countries. Fluent in English? Points. Have a university degree? Points. Degree is in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics? Bonus points. Family? Points. Criminal history? Minus big points. Previous immigration violator? Minus big points. Total up the points and if meet the minimum points necessary to qualify then you can come apply to enter. Should be able to check online from anywhere in the world if you can emigrate.
Nothing like a vile fart in the elevator to kill your momentum
Wouldn't take much of that and I think our problem would disappear.
Just more pandering by Newt who is a slimey bureaucrat and part of the ruling class. He is part of the problem that got us into this mess, not the solution.
No. First, I don't believe we would collect on the bill, but it would give us a claim against them if they returned, which might deter them. Second, we don't have to transport them out. We have to kill their access to jobs and free services, and they will transport themselves out. Look at what happens when a state starts enforcing the law - many illegals leave on their own.
Lemonade my arse. You explain IN DETAIL why it’s ‘impossible’ to round them up, kick them out and build the wall.
From another post on the subject...
The entire problem of illegal aliens, benefits, tuition et all comes down to one very simple question that we allow politicians and many of the pro-illegal/apologistst for bad policy right here on FR to get away with and divert from.
The presence of illegal aliens on American soil is a violation of our laws from the nanosecond they cross the border. Period. Any further law policy rule or regulation aiding illegal aliens cannot by its very nature be legal because it goes against one very simple FACT. It aids and abeds a criminal.
Now every time an apologist for the various DREAM Act like laws or sanctuary city nonsense goes off about it being a Federal matter, remind them of that simple FACT and ask them what they are doing to hold the politicians who WILLINGLY BREAK THE LAW by their implementation, accountable. Dont back off, dont let them divert, duck, ignore and change the subject...make them square it. In public. Here on Free Republic and in the real world.
Hint...making them President/Governor etc. is NOT holding them accountable. Allowing apologists and propagandists to continue making excuses for Perrys two-faced positions on illegals is not holding them accountable. Can anyone here tell me with a straight face otherwise?
Why are supposed and self-proclaimed conservatives spouting the very same lines that liberals use to push their agenda for illegal aliens? Is it not time we put an end to this BS?
Never have so many words been used to say so little.
No need to “round them up”, make them self-deport by taking away all of their freebies, and make sure they are unemployable, then they’ll go running back to Meh-Hee-Co.
I'm not counting the millions who could simply hop in their own automobiles and drive back home.
Do you have any idea what 20 million people is like? First, that's the number of tourists who visited the Viet Nam Veterans Memorial about 5 years after its dedication ~ just in the summer.
So how did those visitors get here? How did they leave?
I've gone through the logistics several times on FR. The numbers are not actually "enormous" ~ and can be handled easily.
In 2010, conservatives and fed-up Americans started pushing this unwilling government back to where it ought to be. Tacitly accepting backsliding from this from a 'supposed' tip-of-the-spear we're putting forth in November 2012 to consolidate and expand November 2010 gains is equivocation and just plain madness.
What is this middle path? Build a fence only half high, or perhaps half a fence, similar to the Maginot Line.
Let’s take him up on it. Let’s give the illegals half the benefits their currently receiving. Oh, and only half the votes they’re currently casting.
“”And we must recognize that some peopel who came here legally are deeply imbedded in our culture..””
I think it has to be a typo and should read “who came here illegally”.
Mr. Scozzafava is drunk on Potomac water again.