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Mentioning Hillary Clinton is smart, as she could be the nominee. Ralph Nader has said Obama should be primaried. Obama could do a LBJ and withdraw from running rather than lose.
1 posted on 10/17/2011 9:03:02 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Gee... Ya’ think? That’s our Wayne. Slow on the uptake but he does get there eventually.


2 posted on 10/17/2011 9:06:58 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.)
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To: neverdem

Well, my first response would be “No sh*t Sherlock!”... But, I guess those of us have seen this for 1/2 a year are just aching for the truth to get out.

I want to see Mr. Obama impeached and imprisoned.

Treason.

It’s a word and it has a meaning.


3 posted on 10/17/2011 9:07:26 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: neverdem

Yes...smart mentioning Hillary.

Excuse me..got to get the popcorn machine out of the closet.


4 posted on 10/17/2011 9:09:31 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: neverdem
I'm glad to see LaPierre finally address this. I remember when he got in Clinton's face, saying that Bubba's administration needed a certain amount of gun-related violence in order to further an agenda. Slick got quite put out by those comments, but Wayne stood his ground.

It'll be interesting to see what sort of response is offered this time. Given the situation (and the real crimes committed), I suspect they'll clam up.

5 posted on 10/17/2011 9:09:37 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: neverdem
Obama could do a LBJ and withdraw from running rather than lose.

That is exactly the Clinton-Soros-Obama Plan and IMNSHO has been since day 1. Obama's job was to get the Socialist ball rolling, take the heat, gin up claims of "racism," against the opposition and to thereby set the table for Hillary, an equally committed and one whole Hell of a lot smarter Marxist, to consolidate the "gains."

Think about it. Hillary gets 50-55% of the women, 90% of the Blacks. Heavy Jew and Latino support. Bingo ...could work!

6 posted on 10/17/2011 9:10:24 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Romney: Now! New! The Obama Puppet Available in White!)
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To: neverdem

Indeed, it is great to see that “the peter” is finally on board with what most of us identified was the case 6 or 8 months ago. Sure wish someone other than the choir was listening, though.


7 posted on 10/17/2011 9:11:56 AM PDT by earlyapex (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: neverdem

Duh!?

What are they just figuring that out now??? Wow they are quick.

LOL!


8 posted on 10/17/2011 9:11:56 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: neverdem
It is the only thing that makes sense! I can't believe that they could be that stupid. If true, Obama is going to be impeached!

Mike

9 posted on 10/17/2011 9:13:46 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: neverdem
The NRA is not looking at the big picture here. Obama had several ambitions in "Fast and Furious".

Knowing that he no longer controlled the House and therefore could not possibly get anti-gun legislation through Congress he sought, instead, to "compromise" border state gun dealers so that he could have a bunch of prosecutions. At the same time the ATF was building its files on identifying the gun smugglers themselves ~ which gave the Obama Regime a chance to better protect their "real friends" . Prosecuting the dealers would put them out of business and unable to supply arms and AMMUNITION to US citizens in the South West.

Finally, he was able to put several thousand (maybe 25,000 to 50,000 semi-automatic fire long guns into the hands of his friends in the Mexican Northern border states.

There's his NON DOD military force!~

Chavez of Venezuela did something similar by arming FARC in Columbia. When the time came he had them to occupy the Venezuelan government while he took over the country.

Again, the intention was to limit the flow of guns to Americans in the SW, build a small army in Northern Mexico beholden to Obama personally, and then overthrow the civil structure of the US government through force of arms.

Which, BTW, explains why Obama is piling on war after war that requires ever more forward involvement by US military forces. It is conceivable that he could disable the US military from defending the US by being tied up in crazy places like the middle of primitive continental areas like Afghanistan, Uganda, and maybe Southern Argentina!

Pierre is nuts if he thinks Obama is just going after the Second Amendment. This guy (or actually his handlers) is going after the whole enchilada.

11 posted on 10/17/2011 9:16:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

Yes, mentioning Hillary is smart, as her office is probably the source of this gambit. Issa needs to subpoena James Stinberg asap.


19 posted on 10/17/2011 9:29:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
20 posted on 10/17/2011 9:32:47 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

I THINK IT’S TIME TO START USING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT.


22 posted on 10/17/2011 9:47:32 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: neverdem
Derelict Holder should be tried for treason against our GREAT NATION!!
25 posted on 10/17/2011 9:58:45 AM PDT by az.b1bbomberfxr
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To: neverdem

One more time.

“and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton”


26 posted on 10/17/2011 10:02:42 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: neverdem

You can always count on the NRA to be on top of things.......sheesh. Kind of the same way they got on board during Heller.


28 posted on 10/17/2011 10:15:18 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: neverdem

Until everyone, not currently sentenced and in a prison cell, has their God-given right to bear arms restored to them, no one has the right, but merely a revocable priviledge. It’s everyone or no one, folks, and this is merely a step in the “no one” agenda.


29 posted on 10/17/2011 10:33:04 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: neverdem

We need to arrest EVERYONE who had ANYYHING to do with this and turn them over to the Mexican government. Let them sort it out. They have over 200 people dead and increased crime in their country thanks to our government.

Then for the survivors someday released from Mexican prisons, try them in this country for treason.


31 posted on 10/17/2011 10:42:29 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: neverdem
My bet is that Hillary designed this strategy and 0bummer ordered Holder to execute it.

0bungles knew that Holder didn't know before Holder knew that he didn't know.

How Did Obama Know About "Fast and Furious" Before Holder?

And then there is this...

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

And this...

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

(snip)

“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

Which comes to this...

Grassley to ask for resignation of highest-level person who signed off on Fast and Furious

Which just doesn't seem like enough.

33 posted on 10/17/2011 10:52:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: neverdem; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; Jim Robinson; wmfights; smoothsailing
But LaPierre said that President Barack Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were determined to make it appear that most weapons used by the Mexicans came from north of the border, “so they could stick more gun legislation on honest American gun owners of the United States.”

Please, Lord, open up a chain of evidence that proves this plot by our government to destroy our right to self defense against anything that might threaten us... from foreign enemies to thieves to our own government. Self-defense is a right that You give us. Therefore, we pray in confidence that this is within the scope of Your revealed will.

Added to the evil that must exist for officials to enact such a plot, there is also the fact of hundreds of murders that have taken place. The innocent blood cries from the ground. Reveal the truth in an incontrovertible way so that this evil will be revealed in all of its hideousness and the perpetrators of it would be brought to justice.

We pray in Jesus' name; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Amen.

48 posted on 10/17/2011 5:23:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: neverdem
Obama could do a LBJ and withdraw from running rather than lose.

Naaaah I think he's too stooopid. He'll ride his ship right down the tubes and pretend he's the black equivalent of Slim Pickens riding the H-Bomb to detonation in Dr. Strangelove. I think the only way he'll turn loose of the election is for somebody to show him the way Vince Foster solved his problems with "depression."

50 posted on 10/17/2011 6:04:28 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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