Posted on 10/31/2011 6:56:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Early thoughts? If there is even the tiniest bit of truth to what is being alleged, we are darned lucky it comes out NOW rather than in one years time. I like Cain, but this needs to be thoroughly exposed for what it is.
Someone must have made them a better offer.
We live in a country where you can be slapped with a sexual harrassment lawsuit for telling a woman her hair looks nice or saying something “provocative” like, “Good morning, young lady.”
These trolls have a clear intent to bring down republican candidates who have risen in the polls. Obama Rat trolls should be identified and outted.
First with Bachman, then with Perry, now with Cain (and of course, always with Romney), the Obama Rats use a deceptively simple approach.
They camp out on a thread that seems to support a candidate, Cain for example.
They use one-liners and ad hominem insults to attack that candidate, while implying that they support another candidate, for instance, Perry. Then when one visits the Perry threads, that same poster rarely, if ever, appears. When he does, the appearance is luke warm, and mainly directed toward tearing down some other candidate. When challenged, the Obama Rat trolls avoid supporting the candidate they imply that they support.
In addition, the Obama Rats seem to use many of the same talking points, often referring to Mike Huckabee, or some other candidate from the past. They use virulent attacks on individual posters, who disagree with them, to try to drive that poster off the thread.
One need only research the history of comments from suspected Obama Rats to see the pattern.
Obviously, we each have different views on the candidates. Those differing views are worthy of debate.
However, unless a poster starts finding positive points with a candidate, any candidate, with as much vigor as he tears down other candidates, then he is just another shrill Obama Rat troll, not worthy of debate. He should be identified and outted.
Then Cain can simply say the accusations were a pile of crap and he opposed any settlement with the women. Done.
I've worked in the corporate world long enough to see a few people accused of this sort of thing. I have never heard of a mandated insurance settlement in such a situation. I've actually never seen one of these accusations hold up through an investigation.
The DNC and obama campaign would wait until just before election day to spring it if it was them. With two parties eliminated, you only have one left. You be the judge.
Do you have any evidence it came from the Perry campaign? It could have come from the Bachmann campaign, they would have a lot to gain from this (maybe getting to the upper single digits). One possible theory is it could have come from....the Cain campaign to dump this story out early.
Apparently the Cain has not denied the story we will have to see more about this when he’s on with Judy Woodruff this afternoon.
....”The current president is acting like the King of the United States by governing with executive orders to go around congress and this is what the news media thinks is important!!!”.....
Of course...they want a story, any story, that distracts from anything negative about Obama. Even the obvious about him they will not run with...and the show has only just begun.
The whole idea is creating chaos within the candidate pool and it’s working....and to keep it in front of the viewers eyes. It makes our side look ridiculous which of course is the point.
I expect nothing but trash from the media....it’s all nothing but tabloid news...actually worse because they claim otherwise.
I agree. At the time it was very common for companies to settle such accusations out of court. Guilty or not.
I am a female and witnessed several women make false claims or trumped up allegations to get pay outs back in the day.
National Restaurant Association...... part of SEIU ?
National Restaurant Association...... part of SEIU ?
>> National Restaurant Association...... part of SEIU ? >>
Most definitely NOT.
CAins going to take the wind out of this story in the “cain way”...he’ll likely agree there was an issue and then do as politicians do.
The question is how long the public is going to insist on being fed scandals...I fear until the next one devised and pushed by the media.
“While the allegations were unfounded, the company decided to settle with her because it was cheaper than going to court.”
And that, in a nutshell is what has happened to American society: people would rather do what’s convenient than what’s right. I’ve spent 26 years as a litigator in one area or another, and the area that frustrated me the most was insurance defense, where we were directed to settle cases for “nuisance value” that should, could and would have been won.
“Loser pays”, anyone? I’m liking the idea more and more.
Colonel, USAFR
If that’s the case, then by all means Cain should come out and discuss it in that manner.
The key to this, of course, is how does Cain handle the situation. If they truly had a 10 day heads up, as of now they have mumbled and fumbled it. Stories like this catch fire quickly, and an astute political team has to tamp it out quickly. Otherwise it’s cuts by a 1000 knives.
Do not people choose to be angry or uncomfortable? Is it my fault if someone else makes that choice? Just suppose cross dressers, transsexuals and queers make me angry and uncomfortable? Do I have a right to ban that type of behavior? Hell, I don't even have the right to keep the law from extending special legal privileges to a lifestyle choice which make me angry and uncomfortable, do I?
True story. Back in the 1970's when I worked my first factory job out of high school, our shift manager was a rather loutish middle-aged guy who made inappropriate and suggestive jokes to the females who worked on the line. The younger women (about my age) were generally appalled. The older women (nearer my mother's age) generally went along with it and even laughed. Things eventually reached a boiling point and both sides tried to pull me in as a witness for their point of view when the shift manager's boss came to resolve the dispute.
Eventually, I got called into the shift manager bosses office where I was questioned at length. I did not care to take a side. I simply related one incident where the shift manager had targeted my ethnicity for ridicule. I immediately told him that such talk was not appropriate. He gave me sort of a half apology and it never happened again. "We all make mistakes," I told the big boss, "it is how we deal with them that matters." Most of the line workers would not speak to me for the next two weeks because they thought I had sided with one faction or the other. It made me really uncomfortable because I really needed the job for college.
Then one day, when I reported for work, about one-third of the line workers and the shift manager had been replaced.
It turned out the boss had talked to every worker and simply weeded out those who were most interested in perpetuating trouble and kept those who were most interested in working. It became a much better place to work from that day forward.
While the allegations were unfounded, the company decided to settle with her because it was cheaper than going to court.”
A perfectly rational decision in the real world, of course...but also showing why substantial private sector experience makes it hard to become a candidate for public office.
At this point, we don’t know. The Ron Paul supporters are a pretty aggressive bunch so I’m not discoutning anything out right now.. At this point, it’s up for grabs and the Cain campaign will have to address it and stamp it out.
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