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How Siri is ruining your cellphone service
The Washington Post ^ | January 26, 2012 | Paul Farhi

Posted on 01/27/2012 3:24:13 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll

Like a few million other people this past holiday season, we bought an iPhone 4S, with its much-hyped Siri feature. The vocal interface allows users to speak all kinds of commands into the phone (“What’s the weather in San Francisco?”) and get answers from a sultry-voiced robot/concierge.

We’ve used Siri to get directions, to make hands-free mobile calls and to fetch answers to trivia questions. Sometimes we just goof on Siri. “Siri, do you love me?” my daughter asked the other day. (Siri’s heartbreaking response: “I am not capable of love.”) Most ways you look at it, Siri is pretty magical.

But not in every way. Siri’s dirty little secret is that she’s a bandwidth guzzler, the digital equivalent of a 10-miles-per-gallon Hummer H1.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bandwidth; cellphones; siri

1 posted on 01/27/2012 3:24:16 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll
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To: Da Bilge Troll

...oh how cute....$135.00 worth of “cute”


2 posted on 01/27/2012 3:28:25 PM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Doogle

anyone use “netflex”?...*smiles*


3 posted on 01/27/2012 3:29:53 PM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Da Bilge Troll

I hate voice stuff including speaking on the phone.


4 posted on 01/27/2012 3:34:11 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Well that should finally put a stop to Apple. Sell, sell, sell.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 3:40:32 PM PST by itsahoot (You are no longer a person, you are now a Unit when you need health care.{)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
Siri digitizes your voice and uploads it to the servers. According to this article, it's a "compact digital form that preserves its information." I'll guess that it's phonemes, but I don't know that for sure.

That's going to require some bandwidth, but no more than if you were having a phone conversation for the same duration of time. If you are listening to internet radio on your phone, it's the equivalent of a few seconds.

And the reply? Text to speech technology is sufficiently advanced to do that entirely within the iPhone. So, all they have to do is send back the text. But, there are cases where the entire process is done within the iPhone.

I use far more bandwidth surfing FR while I'm at lunch. Someone would have to be talking to Siri non-stop to use up as much bandwidth. And, I don't use more than about 500 megabytes/month.

I think this is a classic false correlation. The iPhone 4 was faster than the 3G, and the iPhone 4S is faster than the iPhone 4 -- not just in CPU speed, but in maximum download speeds. Better response times usually yield higher utilization, because the user can do more stuff in the same interval of time.

6 posted on 01/27/2012 3:40:46 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

I’ve seen a couple of really hilarious Siri video skits...not suitable even for linking on FR! But funny as heck.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 3:43:21 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Da Bilge Troll
BTW, did anyone else see this week's Big Bang Theory? One of the guys gets a bit too attached to Siri. It was hilarious.

Every response you heard on the show was legitimate. There are multiple blogs and articles around the 'Net that list neat tricks and funny responses from Siri. The writers used them to weave together a really funny story.

8 posted on 01/27/2012 3:44:04 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

I saw that last night and it was funny and sort of sad, too. I can see some poor geeky guys investing themselves into a relationship with ‘Siri’ instead of pushing themselves and growing to where they can relate to a girl.

Of course, I also imagine that massive technological leaps will occur as the Japanese match this technology with robotic tech to make girlfriends for creepy Japanese guys.


9 posted on 01/27/2012 3:50:52 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: steve86

>>I hate voice stuff including speaking on the phone.<<

I can’t type on those damn keyboards — both Blackberry style and even the larger screen one on my new RAZR.

Speech recognition works best for me for searches, directives and correspondence.

As far as the PDA talking BACK to me — no way!


10 posted on 01/27/2012 3:57:53 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: MeganC

Sign me up. No pms, no cheating, no divorce, no whining about bills, no false abuse claims. The minute they perfect a decent robot there are going to be a lot of single American women.


11 posted on 01/27/2012 4:06:57 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: utherdoul

There already are a lot of single American women. They all grew up thinking it was repressive to get married and by the time they hit their 30’s and decide they want to get married no decent man will touch them. Mostly because the decent men got married to women who were in their 20’s.


12 posted on 01/27/2012 4:26:14 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: utherdoul

Men who cannot relate to women (1/2 of the human race) will not be able to relate to their children, if they even manage to have any.

So they rent a surrogate womb; how’s the lovebot going to work out as a mother?

I just don’t think the he-man woman hating club is going to be much help (or even interested) in rescuing our failing civilization.


13 posted on 01/27/2012 4:52:15 PM PST by Valpal1 (America does not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
Siri’s heartbreaking response: “I am not capable of love.”

Hunh. Judging by Jobs' biography, I'd have to guess he wrote that code when he was just getting Apple started.

14 posted on 01/27/2012 4:53:13 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: steve86
I hate voice stuff including speaking on the phone.

I too despise talking on the phone. Don't bother calling, I won't answer.

But that Siri thing is beyond cool.

15 posted on 01/27/2012 4:54:28 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: justlurking

Just watched it and was giggling the whole way thru it.


16 posted on 01/27/2012 5:01:19 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: MeganC

“Mostly because the decent men got married to women who were in their 20’s.”


Now there’s a 50’s comment if I’ve ever seen one.

Pretty funny.


17 posted on 01/27/2012 5:03:37 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

As a group, iThing users consume more bandwidth to less effect than anyone else.


18 posted on 01/27/2012 5:05:00 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MeganC

I’ve been saying for a few years that your last there is China’s only hope, given the level of female infanticide over the last 30 or so years.


19 posted on 01/27/2012 5:13:00 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Danger, danger Will Robinson.

This report comes from the WaPo....who’s sum total science IQ is somewhere around 25.

Add to that the fact that anything that they don’t understand gets trashed, and we get this.

I’d like to look at a spectrum analyzer, network analyzer, etc before I’d believe anything I read from the MSM troglodytes.

Remember, there’s a reason they’re writing for a newspaper...and not solving differential equations.


20 posted on 01/27/2012 5:30:37 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Doogle

No, I hide it on my Razr....along with about 44 other apps. =.=


21 posted on 01/27/2012 5:36:45 PM PST by cranked
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To: Da Coyote

Yep. What a pant load of crap. The only thing Paul Farhi left out was “women and minorities hardest hit” and “people with iphones make too much money and should pay more taxes” and “nobody really needs to drive an SUV, we should all bicycle to work”. ;(


22 posted on 01/27/2012 5:41:31 PM PST by MD Expat in PA
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23 posted on 01/27/2012 5:50:11 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: MeganC

I like the way you post.


24 posted on 01/27/2012 5:52:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Valpal1

There are some of us who dislike humanity too much to reward it with our progeny...

They keep electing people like Jackson-Lee, Conyers, Durbin, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama, so they’re not going to get any more like me!

Mark


25 posted on 01/27/2012 6:03:42 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: justlurking
BTW, did anyone else see this week's Big Bang Theory? One of the guys gets a bit too attached to Siri. It was hilarious.

It was great. When I saw this thread, I figured I'd scroll down and see if any BBT fans had seen it. BBT is one of the funniest shows on TV right now, but it's not as kid friendly as it could be.

26 posted on 01/27/2012 8:23:04 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: justlurking
Siri digitizes your voice and uploads it to the servers. According to this article, it's a "compact digital form that preserves its information." I'll guess that it's phonemes, but I don't know that for sure.

That's going to require some bandwidth, but no more than if you were having a phone conversation for the same duration of time. If you are listening to internet radio on your phone, it's the equivalent of a few seconds.

Exactly. The reason iPhone 4S users typically use more bandwidth is not Siri, but the phone in general. It supports the fastest network standard available, and the people that buy the phone expect to be able to use that bandwidth! Bandwidth consumption is only going to grow.

This WaPo nattering nabob of negativism just needed to fill a news hole.

27 posted on 01/27/2012 8:36:56 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Da Bilge Troll

Siri DOES know the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow...


28 posted on 01/27/2012 10:27:07 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Lancey Howard; FreedomPoster; Mears

So what if I am old fashioned? Who ever said old fashioned = wrong? The Constitution is over 200 years old and the values it represents are just fine.

I was married at 18 and I’m a stay-at-home mom and what have I missed from the sexual revolution?

Random sex with guys I don’t really know. Living with some guy who won’t commit to marriage or who can’t afford to get married. Working at some shitty job that I hate for fifty years while sending my kids (the ones I don’t abort) to day care. Risking all sorts of diseases. Not marrying until the oh-so-magical age of thirty because...why? Because a bunch of lesbian feminists in New York and San Francisco say that’s what I should do? And why should I give a damn what some ugly, dried up and used up old hags from the 1960’s have to say anyway? Look at the mess they all made of their lives and then I’m supposed to do that, too?

No way.

My grandmother got married at 18 and had nine kids and she and my grandfather are still happy after over 60 years together. That’s what I want!

I might be old fashioned, but I won’t be 40 some day living alone in some apartment wondering where I went wrong in life.

[/rant]


29 posted on 01/29/2012 5:01:31 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: steve86

Voice exchange and command is the future. Go back to sleep.


30 posted on 01/29/2012 5:05:41 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: MeganC

Rant of the year!


31 posted on 01/29/2012 5:09:08 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Da Coyote

Yeah, on that note, I’ve got a long time friend that I went to engineering school with 30+ years ago, who is very involved in backhaul engineering for AT&T Wireless. I should ask him about this. He’s likely to have a handle on what is creating their new bandwidth requirements beyond “more iPhones on the network.” I know he has been working hard for the last couple of years on movin’ mo’ bits.


32 posted on 01/29/2012 5:14:56 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MeganC

Hey, kudos to you, seriously, and I agree with most if not all of what you said there. I was primarily making a grim comment about a sexual/demographic aspect of modern Chinese culture. And as flip as I perhaps sounded, I’m pretty deadly serious about the comment. They have 10s of millions of excess males in their society. Think about the ramifications of that for a few minutes.


33 posted on 01/29/2012 5:26:54 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: morphing libertarian

Oh, it’s nice to be out of the mainstream. I haven’t had a ‘regular’ phone conversation in over 10 years.


34 posted on 01/29/2012 6:48:26 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: FreedomPoster

I read once somwehere that some general in China seriously is proposing a war with India where millions of Chinese conscripts (not their best soldiers) would be sent against Indian troops with the intent of letting the Indians slaughter them. All to reduce that excess population of young men.

I hope that isn’t true but for some reason the cold logic seems to be a perfect fit both with China and with communism.


35 posted on 01/30/2012 8:56:46 AM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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