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In honor of Whitney Houston, Gov. Christie ordering flags flown at half-staff in N.J.
WPIX TV ^ | 2/15/12 | Julia Jacobo

Posted on 02/15/2012 6:38:11 AM PST by doyle

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie announced Tuesday that he plans to order flags on public buildings to fly at half-staff on the day of Whitney Houston's funeral to honor the songstress and Jersey native.

"Whitney Houston was an important part of the cultural fabric of this state," Christie said during a press release Tuesday. Christie also said the pop legend belongs in the same category as Frank Sinatra, Count Basie and Bruce Springsteen.

He said he will sign the order later in the week after Houston's family makes a final decision regarding time and place of the funeral.

A Newark church pastor announced Tuesday that that a private funeral will be held for the popstar on Saturday at Newarl's New Hope Baptist Church, where Houston sang


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: boozer; chrischristie; crackhead; drugaddict; halfstaff; music; oldglory; tribute; whitneyhouston
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To: SamAdams76

And their body parts are thrown into land fills and Arlington Nat Cemetery gets burials all screwed up and throws head stones in a ditch...
Priorities these days are completely wrong...


51 posted on 02/15/2012 8:09:21 AM PST by matginzac
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To: doyle
Well New Jersey might as well keep their flag at half mast all of the time to honor all of its citizens who have died.
Dipping the flag and flying the flag at half mast are supposed to be a thing of honor, not from some popularity contest.
Will Bruce Springsteen receive the same "order" on his passing simply as well because he too was a popular singer and entertainer?

The Cult of Personality in all its shining glory.

52 posted on 02/15/2012 8:12:04 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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I'm so ticked...on his passing simply as well simply because he...

What a farce.

53 posted on 02/15/2012 8:14:38 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Nathaniel

I voted for El Hefe and was pleased when he yelled at a member of the teachers’ union. But, boy, has that act gotten old! He flits about the country giving blowhard speeches while we remain the most heavily taxed state in the nation. Now he’s lowering the American flag for a crack addict with a pretty face. To use an El Hefe phrase, he’s a numb nuts.


54 posted on 02/15/2012 8:15:22 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: stanne
Although she did record that performance in the studio, the actual live version at the super bowl was lip-synched.
55 posted on 02/15/2012 8:22:15 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a lot of things in my life that I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgus)
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To: Jack of all Trades

I’m not judging did you read what I wrote? For the good of our youth she should be publicly condemned for ruining and destroying her own life.


56 posted on 02/15/2012 8:23:10 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: doyle

Well Chris “Lou Costello’’ Christie just lost my vote. But that’s ok. I had to hold my nose and vote for this fat-ass RINO anyway and I’m sick of doing that.


57 posted on 02/15/2012 8:25:54 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: doyle

With the death of the republic comes a socialist state based on pop culture... If he had lived... Michael Jackson could have become president.

LLS


58 posted on 02/15/2012 8:25:54 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: cubreporter

Bruce is not quite dead yet.


59 posted on 02/15/2012 8:34:00 AM PST by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: Williams

“Wouldn’t it be best for our youth if instead of honoring her, we cursed her to hell?”

When did the state of New Jersey get that power?


60 posted on 02/15/2012 8:45:42 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Williams

Have you been reading Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People”?


61 posted on 02/15/2012 8:47:11 AM PST by EEGator
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To: philman_36

I’m choosing to have a little reality disconnect and imagine it honors the patriots who lost their lives defending our country. The country that was.


62 posted on 02/15/2012 8:48:18 AM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: doyle

“In honor of Whitney Houston, Gov. Christie ordering flags flown at half-staff in N.J.”

What was he thinking?
Celebrating a drug addict, whose career was dead long before her own?


63 posted on 02/15/2012 8:50:19 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: doyle

I don’t have a clue who Whitney Houston is, and wouldn’t have known her name except for FR.


64 posted on 02/15/2012 8:56:01 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: stanne

Yes, and besides just singing that tune so beautifully, she also donated all the proceeds of that song to benefit the troops. When it was re-released after 9/11, she donated all her proceeds to the firefighters and victims’ families.

So, despite the fact that she was a drug addict and not a great example in her personal life, she just might have done more good in the world with a few acts like that than most of the people on this forum will ever accomplish. Just some food for thought...

“And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.” 1 Peter 4:8


65 posted on 02/15/2012 8:57:45 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: AnTiw1
I’m choosing to have a little reality disconnect and imagine it honors the patriots who lost their lives defending our country.

Unacceptable flights of fantasy like yours are forbidden in the surreal world of today. /sarcasm just in case

66 posted on 02/15/2012 8:58:32 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: dfwgator

“Yes, she was a great singer...but there are plenty of singers just as good as her, who are understudies on Broadway.”

Maybe strictly as technical singers, but not as performers. If they were as good performers as her, they would be as successful as she was. The proof is in the pudding.

I say that as a person who is not a big Whitney Houston fan, btw.


67 posted on 02/15/2012 9:00:12 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: rfp1234

LOL. He’s dead to me - took a hard left in “Nebraska” and has never been heard from since.


68 posted on 02/15/2012 9:01:37 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Boogieman
. If they were as good performers as her, they would be as successful as she was

Success in entertainment usually boils down to being at the right place at the right time...if Clive Davis doesn't see her performing at that Church, you never would have heard of her.

69 posted on 02/15/2012 9:11:55 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Boogieman
If they were as good performers as her, they would be as successful as she was. The proof is in the pudding.

_________________________________

Not true at all. In show business luck and 'who you know' are tremendous factors. Houston was 'discovered' by Clive Davis at Sweetwater's in NYC where she was a back-up singer for her own mother. That put her on the road.

If she were not family-connected she would not have been singing back-up for Cissy and would not have been 'discovered'.

It didn't hurt that her aunt was Dionne Warwick either.

Anybody who has spent time in either music or film can tell you tons of stories of remarkably talented people who never had the connections or got the break.

70 posted on 02/15/2012 9:12:42 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: doyle

What a complete jackass.

And people wanted this guy to run for President?????


71 posted on 02/15/2012 9:19:47 AM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: doyle
Creepy times two!

First creepy that Mister Christie, Governor State of New Jersey, uses his majestic authority to compel citizens throughout that great state to honor a druggie pop-merchant as if she were a hero who sacrificed all for others.

Second creepy that Mister Christie, Governor State of New Jersey, said (according to the report as written) that "the pop legend belongs in the same category as Frank Sinatra, Count Basie and Bruce Springsteen." Whitney, Frank, and the Count are all dead, Mister Christie! We wonder how the very alive Mister Springsteen feels about being that list.

72 posted on 02/15/2012 9:21:48 AM PST by bvw
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To: Williams
Yes, I read it, but failed to grasp the nuance of not judging while advocating public condemnation...

I've seen more than my share of deaths from substance abuse. I'm not saying we should put her on a pedestal. I do believe that "condemnation" is not going to hit the target audience very hard because those who are prone to addiction are very likely to think "that won't happen to me". What does work is instilling the notion that "hey, I'm like that" and "yes that can happen to me".

73 posted on 02/15/2012 9:23:13 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Charles Martel

Thanks. You kept me on track.


74 posted on 02/15/2012 9:47:41 AM PST by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: rfreedom4u

Thanks - does fat-boy do this for fallen servicemembers fron New Jersey?


75 posted on 02/15/2012 9:49:34 AM PST by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: rfreedom4u

Thanks - does fat-boy do this for fallen servicemembers from New Jersey?


76 posted on 02/15/2012 9:50:15 AM PST by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: Charles Martel

>>>AFAIK, Governors don’t have any say in when the U.S. flag is flown at half-staff.

You know wrong. Governors CAN order flags - including the US Flag to half-staff.

http://www.gettysburgflag.com/flyflaghalfmast.php


77 posted on 02/15/2012 9:52:41 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Boogieman

Actually, I said “we” however the main point is we should not honor drug addicts when they die. I say this for the good of our children. Same thing happened with Michael Jackson, and he had the additional distinction of being an accused child molester.

Yes, this is sending teh wrong wrong wrong message to our kids. She should be acknowledged as agreat singing talent, but taht waht she did to herself is absolutely disgusting and shameful.

I’m really sorry if some here can’t see that. What’s not to see? Flags at half mast for a famous druggie who did herself in? Ridiculous.


78 posted on 02/15/2012 10:07:24 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: wtc911

Well, yeah I guess you can say there are thousands of people out there better than anyone you pick that just didn’t “get their break”, but then again anyone can toss out an anecdote. If someone was as good a performer as Whitney Houston, they’d get a break, unless they were just totally incompetent or uninterested in succeeding.

Did she get a “leg up”? Sure she did. But the music industry boosts people due to nepotism all the time, and most of them fall flat on their faces (well at least, they did before autotune). You couldn’t rack up as much success as she did, at that time, without delivering a product the public wanted to buy.


79 posted on 02/15/2012 10:14:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Thanks for pointing that out,B-man. It was my point.


80 posted on 02/15/2012 10:46:25 AM PST by stanne
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To: doyle
Now that the flag is denigrated in such public manner as is our national anthem when sung in public venues and the constitution trashed by our president, it begs the question of, is there anything left of our national dignity?

The sewer creatures have surfaced and rule the day.

81 posted on 02/15/2012 12:13:34 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive; ErnBatavia

Geeze, did you watch the video?

Just watch the video. It’s a lovely tribute by an American girl to her country and she brings down the house.

She’s reverent to the event in her appropriate and modest track suit and to her country in her colors (white with red and blue).

She seems happy to do the job.

If she had sung it live, as well, it would’ve been better and if, by chance, she missed a note, she’d have made a real mess.

Bah humbug.

My original point was to repuest easing up on the Whitney bashing.

Could you just watch the video?


82 posted on 02/15/2012 2:57:18 PM PST by stanne
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To: Williams

Well, I agree that it’s not too smart to glorify these kinds of people, certainly not without a strong admonition against their bad behavior. “Cursing people to hell” is a bit too much for me though.


83 posted on 02/15/2012 3:53:20 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Dumazz. Does he order the flag to be flown at half-staff when any New Jersey-ite celebrity dies? Or only those who are famously substance addicted and die of an overdose?


84 posted on 02/15/2012 5:23:21 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: stanne
Stanne.....the facts is the facts. This 'stellar' performance was pre-recorded, and Ms. Houston "acted out" the performance.

You need to just settle down and accept reality.

85 posted on 02/15/2012 6:05:21 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Carterize Obama in November)
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To: ErnBatavia

I stated that I knew she lip synched the song. If you don’t like it because of that, fine.

Please do not write to me again. I have tapped into some kind of Houston hatred that I am quite finished with.


86 posted on 02/15/2012 6:13:28 PM PST by stanne
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To: doyle

Remember when some on FR wanted this imbecile to be President???


87 posted on 02/15/2012 6:50:59 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Ann Coulter is a joke.)
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To: doyle

I take issue with that. I haven’t lost any loved ones in the line of duty but it is disrespectful to lower the flag for someone who did not die for our country or a police officer/firefighter who lost their lives in the line of duty.


88 posted on 02/15/2012 7:11:38 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: stanne

LOL! I’m like, ‘1881’?


89 posted on 02/15/2012 7:13:33 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

It was early. Am such a maroon. DOH!

But did you see the video?


90 posted on 02/15/2012 7:25:08 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

I haven’t seen it yet but I have seen clips of her performance.


91 posted on 02/15/2012 8:18:09 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I put the link on my dopey post #16 I think.

I urge you to watch it.


92 posted on 02/15/2012 8:28:04 PM PST by stanne
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To: Boogieman

Ok I agree. I meant it as a figure of speech and I’ll explain why I used it.

In one of my favorite films Taras Bulba, Yul Brynner leads the Cosacks Tony Curtis is his son. Curtis makes the mistake of insulting one of the other Cosack leaders, and they must compete in a challenge to the death. Curtis wins and the other Cosack dies.

To his sons, Brynner says remember this, the man who died today was a great Cosack. Then he proclaims to everyone that the dead leader should be “cursed to hell!” That was their culture and it was important the loser be branded as the wrongdoer.

And that was what led me to say for the good of our kids, perhaps she should be “cursed to hell” rather than revered. I was wrong to use that phrase.


93 posted on 02/15/2012 9:01:57 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams
Absolutely stupid to glamorize this crack sniffing druggie. She has been on the fast track to hell for the last 20 years and no reason to memorialize her
94 posted on 02/15/2012 9:19:39 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Success is not caused by Spontaneous Combustion", You have to set yourself on fire,)
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To: dps.inspect

Christie does not even know the laws of the State he governs.

No. Section 7m of the Flag Code authorizes a governor to half-staff the US flag upon the death of a present or former official of the government of the state, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from that state who dies while serving on active duty.

Houston was not a present or former member of the govt of the state and she never served a day in uniform. Christie is breaking the law of his own state. He did the same thing for Clarence Clemmons, Bruce Springsteen’s sax player. Christie is an idiot. He figures this will get him a few liberal votes when he runs for reelection.


95 posted on 02/15/2012 10:00:08 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Williams

Alrighty, that makes a bit more sense. Sounds like a good flick too, I’ll have to check it out. Don’t know if I will make it through it if Tony Curtis is playing a Cossack with a Brooklyn accent though... I’ll die happy if I never have to hear him say “Spahtacus” again.


96 posted on 02/15/2012 10:18:47 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Great music, classic story, tragic ending, beautiful co star (who he married), great Yul Brynner performance.


97 posted on 02/16/2012 6:23:36 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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