Skip to comments.What's With All of the Executive Order's Flying Fast?
Posted on 03/18/2012 1:35:36 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
Ok...so Drudge and others are talking about the E.O. that was re-signed by Obama on Friday with the additional words "non-emergency" added to it as well.
Dig a little deeper...now mind you I am not jumping on the Alex Jones bandwagon just yet...but what's up with these other E.O.'s being signed days and weeks apart that actually link right along with what was re-signed and amended on Friday night?
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←Executive Order 13599 Executive Order 13600 by President of the United States
Establishing the President's Global Development Council Executive Order 13601→ Signed by President Barack Obama February 9, 2012 Federal Register page & date: 77 FR 8713, February 14, 2012 See the Notes section for a listing of Executive Orders affected by or related to the issuance of this Executive Order. more info. See the Notes section for a listing of Executive Orders affected by or related to the issuance of this Executive Order.
Executive Order 13600 of February 9, 2012
Establishing the President's Global Development Council
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Policy.
To help protect national security and further American economic, humanitarian, and strategic interests in the world, it is the policy of the Federal Government to promote and elevate development as a core pillar of American power and chart a course for development, diplomacy, and defense to reinforce and complement one another. As stated in the 2010 National Security Strategy and the Presidential Policy Directive on Global Development, the successful pursuit of development is essential to advancing our national security objectives: security, prosperity, respect for universal values, and a just and sustainable international order. The effectiveness of this development policy will depend in large measure on how we engage with partners, beneficiaries of our development assistance, and stakeholders. We will use evidence-based decision-making in all areas of U.S. development policy and programs, and we commit to foster development expertise and learning worldwide.
Sec. 2. Establishment.
There is established the President's Global Development Council (Council). The Council shall be established for administrative purposes within the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) subject to the foreign policy and budgetary guidance of the Secretary of State.
Sec. 3. Membership.
The membership of the Council shall be as follows:
(a) The Council shall be composed of the officials described in paragraph (b) of this section and not more than 12 individuals from outside the Federal Government appointed by the President. Appointed members of the Council may serve as representatives of a variety of sectors, including, among others, institutions of higher education, non-profit and philanthropic organizations, civil society, and private industry. (b) The Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Defense, the USAID Administrator, and the Chief Executive Officer of the Millennium Challenge Corporation shall serve as non-voting members of the Council and may designate, to perform the Council functions of the member, a senior-level official who is part of the member's department, agency, or office, and who is a full-time officer or employee of the Federal Government. (c) The President shall designate a member of the Council to serve as Chair and another member to serve as Vice Chair. The Chair shall convene and preside at meetings of the Council, determine meeting agendas, and direct its work. The Vice Chair shall perform the duties of the Chair in the absence of the Chair and shall perform such other functions as the Chair may assign. (d) The term of office of members appointed by the President from outside the Federal Government shall be 2 years, and such members shall be eligible for reappointment and may continue to serve after the expiration of their terms until the President appoints a successor. A member appointed to fill a vacancy shall serve only for the unexpired term of such vacancy.
Sec. 4. Mission and Functions.
The Council shall advise and support the President, through the National Security Staff and the National Economic Council staff, in furtherance of the policy set forth in section 1 of this order. The Council shall meet regularly and shall:
(a) inform the policy and practice of U.S. global development policy and programs by providing advice to the President and other senior officials on issues including: (i) innovative, scalable approaches to development with proven demonstrable impact, particularly on sustainable economic growth and good governance; (ii) areas for enhanced collaboration between the Federal Government and public and private sectors to advance development policy; (iii) best practices for and effectiveness of research and development in low and middle income economies; and (iv) long-term solutions to issues central to strategic planning for U.S. development efforts; (b) support new and existing public-private partnerships by: (i) identifying key areas for enhanced collaboration and any barriers to collaboration; and (ii) recommending concrete efforts that the private and public sectors together can take to promote economic development priorities and initiatives; and (c) increase awareness and action in support of development by soliciting public input on current and emerging issues in the field of global development as well as bringing to the President's attention concerns and ideas that would inform policy options.
Sec. 5. Administration of the Council.
(a) The heads of executive departments and agencies shall assist and provide information to the Council, consistent with applicable law, as may be necessary to carry out the functions of the Council. (b) Funding and administrative support for the Council shall be provided by USAID to the extent permitted by law and within existing appropriations. (c) The USAID Administrator shall appoint an Executive Director who shall be a Federal officer or employee of USAID and serve as a liaison to the Administrator and the Executive Office of the President and consult with relevant executive departments, agencies, and offices on matters and activities pertaining to the Council. (d) The members of the Council who are appointed from outside the Federal Government shall serve without compensation for their work on the Council. Members of the Council may, however, receive travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence, as authorized by law for persons serving intermittently in the Government service (5 U.S.C. 5701-5707). (e) Insofar as the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), as amended (5 U.S.C. App.), may apply to the Council, any functions of the President under FACA, except that of reporting to the Congress, shall be performed by the USAID Administrator in accordance with the guidelines issued by the Administrator of General Services.
Sec. 6. Termination.
The Council shall terminate 2 years after the date of this order, unless renewed by the President.
Sec. 7. General Provisions.
(a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Signature of Barack Obama Barack Obama The White House, February 9, 2012.
Establishment of the Interagency Trade Enforcement Center
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Publication Date: Monday, March 05, 2012 Agency: Executive Office of the President Entry Type: Presidential Document Presidential Document Type: Executive Order E.O. Citation: E.O. 13601 of Feb 28th, 2012 Page: 12981-12983 (3 pages) Document Citation: 77 FR 12981 Document Number: 2012-5366 Shorter URL: https://federalregister.gov/a/2012-5366
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Establishment of the Interagency Trade Enforcement Center
Title 3 The President Executive Order 13601 of February 28, 2012 Establishment of the Interagency Trade Enforcement Center Back to Top
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to advance U.S. foreign policy and protect the national and economic security of the United States through strengthened and coordinated enforcement of U.S. trade rights under international trade agreements and enforcement of domestic trade laws, it is hereby ordered as follows:Show citation box
Section 1. Policy. Robust monitoring and enforcement of U.S. rights under international trade agreements, and enforcement of domestic trade laws, are crucial to expanding exports and ensuring U.S. workers, businesses, ranchers, and farmers are able to compete on a level playing field with foreign trade partners. To strengthen our capacity to monitor and enforce U.S. trade rights and domestic trade laws, and thereby enhance market access for U.S. exporters, executive departments and agencies (agencies) must coordinate and augment their efforts to identify and reduce or eliminate foreign trade barriers and unfair foreign trade practices to ensure that U.S. workers, businesses, ranchers, and farmers receive the maximum benefit from our international trade agreements and under domestic trade laws.Show citation box
Sec. 2. Establishment. (a) There is established within the Office of the United States Trade Representative (USTR) an Interagency Trade Enforcement Center (Center).Show citation box
(b) The Center shall coordinate matters relating to enforcement of U.S. trade rights under international trade agreements and enforcement of domestic trade laws among USTR and the following agencies:Show citation box
(i) the Department of State;Show citation box
(ii) the Department of the Treasury;Show citation box
(iii) the Department of Justice;Show citation box
(iv) the Department of Agriculture;Show citation box
(v) the Department of Commerce;Show citation box
(vi) the Department of Homeland Security;Show citation box
(vii) the Office of the Director of National Intelligence; andShow citation box
(viii) other agencies as the President, or the United States Trade Representative, may designate.Show citation box
In matters relating to the enforcement of U.S. trade rights involving intellectual property rights, the Center shall consult with the Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator.Show citation box
(c) The Center shall have a Director, who shall be a full-time senior-level official of USTR, designated by and reporting to the United States Trade Representative. The Center shall have a Deputy Director, who shall be a full-time senior-level official of the Department of Commerce, designated by the Secretary of Commerce, detailed to the Center and reporting to the Director. The Center shall also have an Intelligence Community Liaison, who shall be a full-time senior-level official of the Federal Government recommended by the Director of National Intelligence and designated by his or her agency, as applicable, to be detailed or assigned to the Center.Show citation box
(d) To the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations, and in consultation with the Director of the Center, agencies enumerated in subsection (b) of this section, and others in the Intelligence Community recommended by the Director of National Intelligence, are encouraged to detail or assign their employees to the Center without reimbursement to support the mission and functions of the Center as described in section 3 of this order.Show citation box
Sec. 3. Mission and Functions. The Center shall:Show citation box
(a) serve as the primary forum within the Federal Government for USTR and other agencies to coordinate enforcement of U.S. trade rights under international trade agreements and enforcement of domestic trade laws;Show citation box
(b) coordinate among USTR, other agencies with trade related responsibilities, and the U.S. Intelligence Community the exchange of information related to potential violations of international trade agreements by our foreign trade partners; andShow citation box
(c) conduct outreach to U.S. workers, businesses, and other interested persons to foster greater participation in the identification and reduction or elimination of foreign trade barriers and unfair foreign trade practices.Show citation box
Sec. 4. Administration. (a) Funding and administrative support for the Center shall be provided by USTR to the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations.Show citation box
(b) The United States Trade Representative, through the Director of the Center, shall direct the work of the Center in performing all of its functions under this order.Show citation box
Sec. 5. Definitions. For the purposes of this order:Show citation box
(a) the term U.S. trade rights means any right, benefit or advantage to which the United States is entitled under an international trade agreement and that could be effectuated through the use of a dispute settlement proceeding.Show citation box
(b) the term domestic trade laws means any trade remedies available under U.S. law, including, but not limited to, sections 201, 301, 406, and 421 of the Trade Act of 1974, as amended (19 U.S.C. 2251, 2411, 2436, and 2451); sections 332 and 337 of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1332 and 1337); section 281 of the Uruguay Round Agreements Act (19 U.S.C. 3571); and self-initiation of investigations under Title VII of the Tariff Act of 1930 (19 U.S.C. 1671).Show citation box
Sec. 6. General Provisions. (a) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.Show citation box
(b) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:Show citation box
(i) authority granted by law, regulation, Executive Order, or Presidential Directive to an executive department, agency, or head thereof; orShow citation box
(ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.Show citation box
(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.Show citation box
THE WHITE HOUSE, February 28, 2012.
[FR Doc. 2012-5366 Filed 3-2-12; 8:45 am]
Billing code 3295-F2-P
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Executive Order 13602 by President of the United States Establishing a White House Council on Strong Cities, Strong Communities ◄ Executive Order 13601 Executive Order 13603 ► Signed by President Barack Obama March 15, 2012 Federal Register page & date: 77 FR II, March 20, 2012 See the Notes section for a listing of Executive Orders affected by or related to the issuance of this Executive Order.
Executive Order 13602 of March 15, 2012
Establishing a White House Council on Strong Cities, Strong Communities
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to forge a partnership with local communities to provide them with comprehensive technical assistance to use and compete for Federal resources more effectively and efficiently, which will enable them to develop and implement economic strategies to become more competitive, sustainable, and inclusive, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Policy.
Cities, towns, and regions across our Nation continue to face difficult economic challenges. Enhancing current Federal assistance is helping to lift communities out of distress. To allow the Federal Government to better partner with these local communities to build local capacity to address economic issues, and to support comprehensive planning and regional collaboration, my Administration established the Strong Cities, Strong Communities (SC2) pilot initiative. By partnering with cities and regions to augment their vision for stability and economic growth, the SC2 was designed to help communities strengthen their capacity to create jobs and more competitive business climates, and implement locally driven community and regional planning approaches that lead to sustained economic growth, as well as ensure that Federal assistance is more efficiently provided and used.
This order improves the way the Federal Government engages with and supports local communities by better aligning resources and coordinating efforts across executive departments and agencies (agencies) so that communities across the country have access to comprehensive, localized technical assistance and planning resources to develop and implement their economic vision and strategies.
Sec. 2. White House Council on Strong Cities, Strong Communities.
There is established a White House Council on Strong Cities, Strong Communities (Council)
(a) Membership. In addition to the Co-Chairs, the Council shall consist of the following members: (i) the Secretary of the Treasury; (ii) the Secretary of Defense; (iii) the Attorney General; (iv) the Secretary of the Interior; (v) the Secretary of Agriculture; (vi) the Secretary of Commerce; (vii) the Secretary of Labor; (viii) the Secretary of Health and Human Services; (ix) the Secretary of Transportation; (x) the Secretary of Energy; (xi) the Secretary of Education; (xii) the Secretary of Veterans Affairs; (xiii) the Secretary of Homeland Security; (xiv) the Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers; (xv) the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency; (xvi) the Director of the Office of Management and Budget; (xvii) the Administrator of General Services; (xviii) the Administrator of the Small Business Administration; (xix) the Chief Executive Officer of the Corporation for National and Community Service; (xx) the Chairperson of the National Endowment for the Arts; (xxi) the Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement; (xxii) the Assistant to the President and Cabinet Secretary; (xxiii) the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy; (xxiv) the Chair of the Council on Environmental Quality; (xxv) the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy; and (xxvi) the heads of such other agencies and offices as the President may, from time to time, designate. A member of the Council may designate, to perform the Council functions of the member, a senior level official who is a part of the member's agency or office, and who is a full time officer or employee of the Federal Government. (b) Administration. The Co Chairs shall convene regular meetings of the Council, determine its agenda, and direct its work. The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development shall appoint an Executive Director of the Council to coordinate the Council's activities. At the direction of the Co Chairs, the Council may establish subgroups consisting exclusively of Council members or their designees, as appropriate. Agencies may detail staff to the Council to support its coordination and implementation efforts.
Sec. 3. Mission and Function of the Council.
The Council shall, to the extent permitted by law, work across agencies and offices to:
(a) coordinate the development and implementation of the various components of the SC2, as determined by the Co Chairs; (b) coordinate agency efforts to ensure communities have access to comprehensive, localized technical assistance and planning resources to develop and execute their economic vision and strategies (including, where appropriate, efforts of existing committees or task forces related to providing technical assistance to local governments and improving their capacity to address economic issues); (c) ensure that members of the Council incorporate SC2 implementation efforts into their agency annual performance plans and those efforts' outcomes into their annual performance results; (d) provide recommendations to the President, through the Co Chairs on: (i) policies for building local expertise in strengthening local economies; (ii) changes to Federal policies and programs to address issues of special importance to cities and local governments that pertain to local capacity and economic growth; (iii) implementing best practices from the SC2 initiative Government-wide to better support cities and local governments; and (iv) opportunities to increase the flexible utilization of existing Federal program resources across agencies to enable more performance and outcome-based funding; (e) encourage the development of technical assistance, planning, and financing tools and implementation strategies that can be coordinated or aligned across agencies to assist communities in building local capacity to address economic issues, engaging in comprehensive planning, and advancing regional collaboration; and (f) facilitate the exchange of ideas and strategies to help communities address economic challenges and create sustained economic opportunity.
Sec. 4. Outreach.
Consistent with the objectives set forth in this order, the Council, in accordance with applicable law, shall conduct outreach to representatives of nonprofit organizations, businesses, labor organizations, State and local government agencies, school districts, elected officials, faith and other community based organizations, philanthropies, other institutions of local importance, and other interested persons with relevant expertise in the expansion and improvement of efforts to build local capacity to address economic issues in cities and communities. The Council will convene an annual meeting of interested parties including mayors and city employees to share key findings and progress, offer best practices, and promote strategies that have worked in communities participating in the initiative.
Sec. 5. Reports.
Within 1 year of the date of this order, and annually thereafter, the Executive Director shall provide a report to the Co Chairs on the work of the Council and its achievements during the year, including demonstrable changes in the capacity of local communities to implement their economic development goals and efforts to achieve more efficient and effective use of Federal resources.
Sec. 6. General Provisions.
(a) The heads of agencies shall assist and provide information to the Council, consistent with applicable law, as may be necessary to implement this order. Each agency shall bear its own expense for participating in the Council. (b) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department, agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals. (c) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (d) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
Signature of Barack Obama Barack Obama The White House, March 15, 2012. [FR Doc. 2012xxxxx Filed 31912; 8:45 am] Billing Code 3295F2P
What’s there to worry about?
The end of the United States of America as we know it is coming fast and the Constitutional process for making laws and governing is not going to give Obama and Soros the new nation they wish to create.
Well there are some holes in the plan unless the un is going to involved...
Number one the population has not been disarmed.
Number two, the nazis and communists had loyal troops that they kept for two reasons...they either offered them privileges that made them haves who oppressed the have nots, or they pitted them against another “race”.
Getting American troops to take part in oppressing themselves and their own families wont fly because soldiers and their families have been made very methodically into have nots by the govt for a very long time.
They are also sworn to protect us from enemies both foreign and domestic and they know this.
Third, nationalization only works as long as there is money to fund it.
There is no one left to tax unless you enslave the population which would route you back to my previous points.
so either George Soros and the UN are fixin to take us down, or Obama and the globalists are in for one of the most disappointing social experiments in history.
Either way, better go get lots of ammo and beans and rice and put it in Tupperware.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need only threaten to report me to the Admin if I dont add you to the list...
The drumbeat of Bolshevik Dictator Baby-Doc Barak continues to grow louder - - - .
And will not be. Can you imagine disarming the State of Texas?? Not going to happen.
Agenda 21 at work.
>>Well there are some holes in the plan unless the un is going to involved...
>>Number one the population has not been disarmed.
Most of the “armed population” is scared and weak, and not willing to sacrifice their lives for others.
>>Number two, the nazis and communists had loyal troops that they kept for two reasons...they either offered them privileges that made them haves who oppressed the have nots, or they pitted them against another race.
The police unions, all the other unions, the NBPP, segments of the military, and foreign invaders/”guests” will support Obama.
>>Getting American troops to take part in oppressing themselves and their own families wont fly because soldiers and their families have been made very methodically into have nots by the govt for a very long time.
Just offer to make them less of a have-not than the people they oppress. Threaten to make them a have-even-less if they don’t play ball.
>>They are also sworn to protect us from enemies both foreign and domestic and they know this.
Just brainwash them into believing that we are the domestic enemy. It won’t be 100% effective, but all the two items above have to do is get the remainder of the military to just sit on their hands until the civil government is sorted out.
>>Third, nationalization only works as long as there is money to fund it.
Price controls, wage controls, food shortages, energy shortages, jackbooted thugs on every corner, and fiat currency supported by the rest of the marxist nations in the world (aka, the UN) will fund the conversion.
>>There is no one left to tax unless you enslave the population which would route you back to my previous points.
so either George Soros and the UN are fixin to take us down, or Obama and the globalists are in for one of the most disappointing social experiments in history.
Enslaving the population is easy as long as you can starve/freeze the ones who don’t play along. Low, stagnant wages with inflation combined with “subisidies” for those who cooperate will go a long way in a short time.
>>Either way, better go get lots of ammo and beans and rice and put it in Tupperware.
They are counting on us not fighting until its too late.
One of the best responses I ever got on FR about gun ownership in Texas was to “get a phonebook.”
I agree 1000% with you. Something is up.
...the little boy king knows he’s in trouble with American voters.....just picture a trapped RAT....desperation.
I can’t imagine why FReepers would imagine that law enforcement or the military are some sort of repository of moral will. Such an instance would seem to be an anomaly in world history.
And most of those lifetime NRA members would easily give up guns rather than give up their Social Security checks.
Let’s be clear about this - Obama cannot legally ‘suspend’ the Constitution and declare himself ‘President for life’. We at the very least set a legal precedent in the Civil War that the Union cannot be ripped asunder by secession, and if true then it would apply in both directions.
The Constitution is a compact between the states that can only be suspended by constitutional convention. No one individual is given that power - even the President. All power given to the office, whether law, regulation, executive order is derived from the Constitution. Any attempt to suspend it would mean the office of President, and all powers with it, would immediately vacate him and he would devolve right away into something between a treasonous subversive to a domestic terrorist.
This is especially true if Obama tried to stay in office beyond January 21st 2013 without being re-elected. At that point no citizen, govt employee, public official, or member of the military has any obligation to follow any order or decree issued by him. In fact, Obama and any that follow him would be subject to the very interpretations of the Patriot Act set forth by the Obama administration, including imprisonment without trial and summary execution.
No state, or Governor of such state, will be bound to obey any directive from Obama or supply troops in support of his actions. The govt headed by Obama would be considered Outlaw and treated like a foreign invading power, whatever force necessary can be legally applied to resist that power.
All public officials, govt bureaucrats, and those in the military should heed that. If you decide to follow this man beyond his term of office, you both have no authority to back up your actions, and no protections from the consequences of your decisions. You again will be at best treasonous subversives, or at worst domestic terrorists, and subject to all provisions and penalties under the laws of the United States of America.
Any of the above reading this, you might want to think long and hard about what you are doing. You can promulgate all the legal theories you want, but they all leave you when you leave the Constitution. You have no protections whatsoever except the barrel of a gun, and I think you will quickly find you are widely outnumbered in that department.
As I understand it, his pardon power is unlimited. He could pardon, say, every male in every prison in the United States and there’s nothing anyone could do about it. Wouldn’t most of those so pardoned be grateful enough to enlist in his Civilian Defense Corps, especially when three hots and a cot, an M-16 and a spiffy uniform are thrown in?
“Just updating previous such orders.....” Nothing to see hear. Move along. Move along
With Sheriff Arpaio investigation to show probable cause for identity fraud, document forgery, social security fraud, it appears that the Criminal-in-Chief is getting set to seize total control of the citizens of the USA
And Americans once wondered how did a free people in Germany allow themselves to be taken over by a demonic leader...
That won't happen. The Attorney General will arrest him, and.....oh...wait....
if you’ve already seen the article / subject before getting pinged by the ‘nut-job conspiracy’ list...
does that mean your tinfoil is a bit too tight?
thanks for ping
0bama told us he would do this back in 2010.
My UPS delivery guy informed me last week that he has been delivering more ammo than normal since the first of the year. A lot more ammo. IMIM193 5.56 55gr is almost impossible to find and IMIM855 5.56 62gr is getting extremely scarce.
I think it is very telling that Ben Shapiro (name right?), Breitbart editor, is going to continue “vetting” Zero but no the forged docs since “no one is interested” or something. Read it on some thread today.
IMHO that is proof Breitbart was taken out. It wasn’t about the videos, maybe; but about his connecting up with Arpaio.
This is designed to overwhelm Americans. To drive us into either fealty to the feds or revolt.
Of this I am certain, he will not go quietly into that good night.
Be prepared!...for he is preparing.
Curiouser and curiouser.....
Don’t worry about it. Its just a Marxist takeover.
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
Yep, exactly what I thought when I read about Executive Order 13602.
Searched for it, zero responses. Indication it is very new, or the search terms have been removed.
You're right to a certain degree. Personally, I am not willing to die for anyone who voted this madman-bastard into office; let the chips fall where they may where those people are concerned.
Another element I'm not willing to die for is the so called conservatives that just got involved only after the monster was elected. Many are on here and for the first few months were actually bragging about not voting for McCain, well, because it just went against everything they believed in. So they now have their principles fully in tact don't they?
I don't know what your answer is or when the so-called 'armed population' is suppose to act. What do you have in mind? Just when exactly should the sacrifice begin in your opinion?
Couple of things that is in my own personal philosophy is from Patton. The movie recounted many of his own personal speeches but I'm not sure this one, whether it was Hollywood or Patton but still is pertinent about the subject of dying/sacrifice imo:
"I want you to remember, that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it...by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country."
Don't know when the green light will come on but I have a feeling that many of us will know exactly the time to act.
We have the gutless wonders in Congress to thank for this as well. The system has failed dramatically and completely due to the fear you spoke of. We are on our own.
Yep, 2 weapons for every man woman and child in the state.
Apparently he decides if and when Congress gets to be in session; apparently he decides parts of laws to NOT implement (isn't that a line-item veto by other means?).
Personally, I am not willing to die for anyone who voted this madman-bastard into office; let the chips fall where they may where those people are concerned.
Another element I’m not willing to die for is the so called conservatives that just got involved only after the monster was elected.
To hell with them. And I would not join our military today.
If they bring back the draft, I’ll help some of the Draft
What a great invention, Tupperware. Saw the documentary they made about it the other day, again. Doubt they’d allow someone to tinker around and make it today on their own.
Obama has said he’s going to do as much as he can without having to involve Congress.
Further he is pushing Agenda 21 crap. Goes hand in hand with the State Dept Pub. 5277 “Freedom from War” document.
That's my take on it. The Progressives are trying to overwhelm the system, overload it to the point of breakdown. A lot of the arbitrary application of the law is designed to foster distrust of authority. The OWS creates a feeling of chaos just crying out for a Kent State moment by the overloaded police, or a violent reaction by a citizen. Either way, the government wins by having an excuse to suspend more civil liberties.
This president is the front man for a Progressive movement to advance socialism/communism, and he has done a superlative job in that respect. IMHO, the intent is to see if they can't use their momentum to get the nation well beyond the tipping point, so that whatever happens, we can't get back to our Constitutional Republic.
Folks say Obama is incompetent. As President, he has thoroughly failed to live up to his oath of office (and should have rapidly been impeached, but for our recumbent Congress -- another story), but I maintain that he has been a supremely successful Community Organizer. He, and those running him, have masterfully read the condition of our country and played it to perfection (for their cause).
We’re now under a Marxist dominated Oligarchy. The American “Nomenclatura” is in place.
When I saw Bush 41 and Jeb Bush yucking it up with the evil bastard in the Oval Office just a month ago, I knew. It made me sick.
Bush’s are not yukking up nothing now
Not as much as some have claimed or for the reasons claimed, but it is still a matter of substantial concern.
Many of the initial articles took a chicken little approach. However, analysis of the Executive Order, and particularly of one added ambiguity, along with what President Obama has been able to do thus far, suggest that particularly under President Obama, the Executive Order can be a big problem.
Excellent point! There are too many loopholes.. Over the decades we’ve had Progressives on both sides of the isle give themselves power over the Constitution and power over us.. Their last blow to our Constitutional Republic will be swift.. Before we know it they’ll have complete power of us like a typical Dictatorship.. Oh, wait... Uh oh.
>>You’re right to a certain degree. Personally, I am not willing to die for anyone who voted this madman-bastard into office; let the chips fall where they may where those people are concerned.
I agree. Most Americans aren’t worth dying for. Of course, you don’t die in battle for our country or fellow countrymen. You die for your comrades-in-arms next to you. But, we don’t have the organization for that, do we? When they come for your neighbor that you barely know, will you stand and risk death and/or imprisonment for him? Of course not. That goes against human nature.
>>I don’t know what your answer is or when the so-called ‘armed population’ is suppose to act. What do you have in mind? Just when exactly should the sacrifice begin in your opinion?
That is the million dollar question. When is the right time? Move too early, and you’re a lone-wolf nut or an extremist. Move too late and you are a twig in a hurricane. The bottom line is that we are still comfortable and we aren’t going to give that up to fight a state that holds all the cards: police, military, endless databases, forensics, surveillance cameras, snitches in every militia and right-wing group, control of your family’s wealth and housing, etc.
To be honest, we have to lose to win. Hide your weapons after the communist conversion (because it won’t be a revolution because a revolution would give us cause to act) and wait for the misery level to get too much for productive people to take it any longer. All the “Internet Tough Guy” posturing will dissolve in the face of the first wave of communist “reforms”. We need to get to the “nothing to lose” point before we’ll rise up. Obama knows that. Soros knows that. The GOP-E knows that. Everything is designed to take our freedoms while keeping us above the rebellion point.
At this point, we need to learn the Rules for Radicals and steal the Occupy movement from the left. In fact, we need to enlist the working Democrats into our ranks. They stand to lose as much as a working class Republican in the coming communist conversion.
The Tea Party is nice try, but it’s too civil. It’s too well-behaved. The Leftist Elite (in both parties) laugh at our pathetic attempt to protest like we’re at a church social.
Who needs to govern in conjunction with Congress when E.O. are so easy to do...
No legislative debate, no accountability, no need to compromise....
Remember he "Won" so it's OK / S
I remember people like you claiming those of us who were upset by taking prayer out of schools were conspiracy theorists. I remember people like you who thought those of us who cautioned about the FDA taking control of agriculture were conspiracy theorists. I remeber as each step was taken for more and more government intrusion people like you said there was nothing to worry about. I don’t much worry about what people like you say any more. You people have been proven wrong so many times I can’t keep count.
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