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Trayvon Martin / Zimmermann case gets weaker every day. New Negative Revelations.
Source? Friends and Fiends.

Posted on 04/23/2012 2:25:39 PM PDT by MindBender26

I have just learned from a friend in Seminole County law enforcement, who is very close to Zimmermann case, that the case against Mr. Zimmerman is even weaker than originally thought.

It seems that the police officer/technician who collected the evidence at the scene and signed the evidence report was not in any way qualified to do so.

He was much more of a breathalyzer technician and someone who would do field drug testing and initial toxicology reports at the scenes of suspected crimes. It is believed that the shooting was his first ever full crime scene investigation and he had not been trained to the standard levels of competency. The Sanford PD did not think the case against Zimmerman had nearly enough merit to bother doing a thorough investigation.

In addition, when the drug screens come back from Martin, they will show a host of recreational drugs. All of this is further circumstantial evidence of potential irrational activity on the part of Mr. Martin, and remember, the State has already admitted that they have no evidence as to who started the fight.

There's more: There is another very interesting point of law coming to the forefront. It may easily be held that regardless of who started the fight, when Martin slammed Zimmerman's head onto the concrete with the force that he did, that act became Assault With A Deadly Weapon, (the concrete,) and at that point Zimmerman had the right to defend himself, with deadly force if necessary, regardless of what had happened up to that point.

We shall see.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; vanity; zimmerman
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To: chris37
But Zimmerman SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF HIS CAR, because getting out of his car is getting out of his car!

Not only that, he didn't obey the dispatcher on the other end of the emergency line.

Everybody knows that if a dispatcher tells you not to something it is illegal for you to do it anyway.

101 posted on 04/23/2012 5:03:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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To: MindBender26

I actually can’t see any forensic evidence that would require certified skills, other than those in the provence of the coroner. The parties are identified, photos can be taken by anyone, and anyone can pick up and seal a skitters package, so the skill level of the evidence tech wouldn’t matter.

The one issue we don’t have any information on at the moment is whether the coroner found any trauma to Trayvon’s hands. Unless he punched Zimmerman with his iced tea bottle, there should be some bruising.

Drug screen might have some probity on the issue of irrational or violent behavior, but the levels would have to indicate current usage. Past usage wouldn’t be relevant.

How important the police thought the case to be at the time has no bearing for either side.


102 posted on 04/23/2012 5:06:57 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: MindBender26
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

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Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

103 posted on 04/23/2012 5:16:32 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Gil4

Exactly, it’s a self-defense case. SYG has some provisions re: procedure and civil liability that might apply, but that’s it. But when the chattering heads start out with their own manufactured scenario, then try to jam the facts into it, the fact that they don’t fit doesn’t dissuade them.


104 posted on 04/23/2012 5:16:52 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: gaijin

White hispanic isn’t even a race.


105 posted on 04/23/2012 5:18:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: goseminoles
He has solid representation now. Its all good.

Great news. Thanks.

106 posted on 04/23/2012 5:23:29 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No kidding.

I mean, not only did the dispatcher of the law issue a lawful suggestion in saying we don’t need you to do that, Zimmerman clearly disobeyed the lawful suggestion when he responded by saying OK and then obeyed it!

The sheer nerve of this guy!


107 posted on 04/23/2012 5:28:44 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: presently no screen name

I was going to comment. Ill keep silent and support GZs defense. He deserves it ..


108 posted on 04/23/2012 5:31:55 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: patriot08

They got the perp, his name is Tyrone.

http://amren.com/news/2012/03/couple-met-and-married-within-a-month/


109 posted on 04/23/2012 5:33:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Not only that, he didn't obey the dispatcher on the other end of the emergency line. Everybody knows that if a dispatcher tells you not to something it is illegal for you to do it anyway.

I actually had a Dhimmicrat at work trying to argue this today, that he should have obeyed the dispatcher. (Of course, the Dim was just parroting what he'd heard on Anderson Cooper F.A.G or some other program on ABCNNNBC).

I asked him what legal authority she had to tell Zimmerman to do ANYTHING? And I pointed out the exact words of the dispatcher: "we don't NEED you do to do that [follow zombie Trayvon].

After about 3 minutes, the knee-jerk liberal had to admit I was right.

110 posted on 04/23/2012 5:36:11 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: chris37

That there even is a case, or any real controversy shows how damaged our society really is already. This pot was stirred by the media and people who are supposed to be leading this country poured gas on the fire.


111 posted on 04/23/2012 5:47:43 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: CaptainPhilFan
Yes and No.

And it wouldn't matter, even if Martin had been previously arrested for such a crime. (He had not).

A lot of people in Florida just want the truth to come out.
Unfortunately, we all doubt it ever will, now.

We know Zimmerman killed Martin. That was never in doubt.
Details regarding why and how were known by the Sanford PD that night. They declined to immediately prosecute, based on their initial findings of evidence.

Two weeks later, a now familiar and obvious pattern of media lies and targeted “community political action” begins on a national level, in what was a local homicide.

BTW - very little national press or political attention was given to another Florida "justifiable homicide". But that was just a local black on white homicide in Naples.
Dooley vs James.
Odd that Dooley's 9/2010 shooting of James was coming back into the public spotlight at right about the time....

Just saying.

112 posted on 04/23/2012 6:06:11 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: jiggyboy; MindBender26
Did they do any toxicology tests on Zimmerman? I’m told that’s standard procedure in a shooting. I haven’t seen anything saying that they did.

For what it's worth, this source says the police took a blood sample from Zimmerman (under the subheading "The Injuries and the Paramedics", more than halfway down the article):

A Police Dept. spokesperson told local Orlando media a full toxicology analysis was completed including, blood tests, breathalyzer and the police took residue and swab samples of his hands, arms and body.

113 posted on 04/23/2012 6:14:26 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster; jiggyboy; MindBender26
fail. Here's the link: Blood test on Zimmerman under subheading The Injuries and the Paramedics.
114 posted on 04/23/2012 6:17:56 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: presently no screen name
They got one of them. There was a gang of feral blacks who attacked the Straits.
115 posted on 04/23/2012 6:18:13 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: MindBender26

Interesting points and thoughts.

I find it very strange to be in unison with Alan Dersohwitz when reviewing the evidence and the tactics of the prosecutor.


116 posted on 04/23/2012 6:22:43 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big drug/oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,earthquake/tsumani,fnc,wall st)
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To: MindBender26
There is a separate SYG hearing, and it will be soon.

There shouldn't be. SYG has nothing to do with this case. Zimmerman was attacked while returning to his vehicle.

It's the anti-gunners that are trying to drag SYG into this. This is just plain justified self defense.

117 posted on 04/23/2012 6:26:30 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: MindBender26
"There is a separate SYG hearing, and it will be soon."

Ummmm.....why?

SYG does not need to be considered in this case. Pure self defense, nothing more needed. Irrefutable and easily understood.

118 posted on 04/23/2012 6:46:50 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In fact, the dispatcher didn’t even tell him not to follow TM. He said, “We don’t need you to do that.” It implies that he can do it if he wants, but he doesn’t need to do it.


119 posted on 04/23/2012 6:54:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

LOL


120 posted on 04/23/2012 6:58:31 PM PDT by ladyjane
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