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Hawaii to Ariz.: Prove need to verify Obama birth
My Fox Phoenix.Com ^ | 5/19/2012 | Joshua Wisch

Posted on 05/19/2012 9:35:37 AM PDT by Elderberry

OBAMA-ARIZONA BALLOT

Hawaii to Ariz.: Prove need to verify Obama birth

PHOENIX (AP) - The attorney general's office in Hawaii is telling Arizona's secretary of state that if he wants confirmation of President Barack Obama's birth records, he'll have to prove he legitimately needs it.

Special Assistant Joshua Wisch said late Friday that Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett hasn't done that despite numerous email and phone exchanges between their offices.

Wisch says Hawaii state laws require Bennett to show legal authority that this office needs the records to update its official lists as part of its ordinary work.

Wisch says as soon as Bennett gives Hawaii adequate authority, the Aloha State will verify Obama's birth.

Bennett said in a radio interview this week that Obama's status on Arizona's ballot is in question unless Hawaii verifies his birthplace.

Hawaii officials have confirmed multiple times that Obama was born there.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2scary4words; 2suspicious4words; birthcertificate; coverup; eligibility; hawaii; illegalalien; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: GBA

Very true, and it goes even deeper than just the peons in the HDOH office. We’ve got the Hillary supporters talking to the Cold Case Posse about the threats and assassinations that were used to get BILL AND HILLARY to give up on their plans to reveal Obama’s ineligibility. We’re talking big stuff here, and there is war brewing even among dems, as far as I can tell.

Here’s what I posted earlier in response to someone’s suggestion that the Arkansas mafia is confronting the Chicago mafia:

The communists and Islamists both know that to capture a country you have to first disable its defenses. In America our defense is accountability and the rule of law. That’s why it was so critical for Obama to fill the AG position with a thug who would keep federal law enforcement from investigating and prosecuting anything. That took out any fear of federal watchdogs in the legal system (just as he took out the IG’s who were actually doing their jobs to get rid of any fear of Congressional watchdogs).

Now he knows that it is the states who will present the challenge to him. That’s why he’s been pushing to federalize EVERYTYHING. That’s why AZ can’t be allowed to check for immigration status. That’s why no states can be allowed to require voter ID. That’s why the Selective Service Administration’s microfilms are only allowed to be available to FEDERAL investigators rather than state or local investigators. Etc. He’s trying to get rid of any semblance of law enforcement at the state and local levels.

Kam Kuwata was the executive behind the planning of the 2008 Dem Convention in Denver. At that convention he saw a bizarre episode with Obama, where Obama was totally out of it and was taken to a back room where only a few people were allowed to come and there was chanting going on. When Obama came out he was perked up, blinking constantly, and didn’t recognize Kuwata, who had just spoken with him for 10 minutes a little while before this episode began. Whether it was drugs, hypnosis, cultic ritual, or what, Kuwata didn’t know. But he told some close friends about it.

After Obama was elected, Kuwata ran a campaign against the gal that Obama wanted to be the CA AG. That opened up a sh!t-storm between Obama’s handlers and the allies/friends of Kuwata, including Barbara Boxer. And a couple months after Obama’s choice for AG was elected, Kam Kuwata showed up dead in his apartment. In spite of how busy and well-connected he had been, nobody had missed him for 2 weeks. In accordance with the wishes of the new AG, there was no autopsy done to determine how or why he died. On the day of his memorial service, his good friend Barbara Boxer announced the assassination of Bin Laden - one full hour before Obama himself announced anything.

As you know, the Hillary supporters from 2008 are working with Arpaio’s posse regarding threats and/or assassinations made during the 2008 primary.

It’s not allowed to be linked here, but if anybody wants to Google it, the Ulsterman Report has given early claims about the Bin Laden assassination that have since been vindicated/verified, as well as other at-the-time “insider” claims that have since been vindicated, and those claims include this stuff about Kam Kuwata, which are consistent with the picture of threats and death given by the Hillary supporters that the posse is presumably now investigating. So if you google Ulsterman, Kam Kuwata, Denver convention, etc you can find what Ulsterman has on this. We have no idea who this alleged “White House Insider” is and no way to verify that any of this comes from an insider, but his claims from the past have been accurate.

If these things are all true, then we have a situation where the Arkansas and California dems are at war with the Obama/Soros thugs, and there are top dems and Hillary supporters who know that Soros is planning on destroying this country and that Obama agreed to that agenda. We also know that Obama/Soros is opposed by most of the military, and that even Panetta went over Obama to keep the Bin Laden assassination order active, against the wishes of Obama.

Soros/Obama have been trying to ride the tiger, but they’ve got to know that the tiger is getting ever-closer to tipping things over. Things will soon reach critical mass, and what happens from there is anybody’s guess. I think we’re all uneasy because we know something very big is imminent but can’t really do much about it.


81 posted on 05/19/2012 11:35:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Butter, doesn’t Hawaii have a terrible reputation for handing out birth records to anyone/everyone like candy?

(thanks for all the work you’ve done on this topic...it’s getting very exciting, now!)


82 posted on 05/19/2012 11:36:41 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Elderberry
The explanations by everybody in Hawaii are all full of carefully constructed and parsed sentences and terms to avoid perjury prosecutions. State law seems to have been written to throw a legal veil of secrecy around everybody's public records (see below). Only the person whose record is being sought can go to Hawaii and look at it -- but NOT copy it! As we all know, the whole matter could be very easily put to rest if Obama were to release the BC he claims is in his possession.

Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims

April 11, 2011: Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, inspected the files, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama.

She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

...the shorter, computer generated "certification of live birth" that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The certification...shows that Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961 [and] was based on the content of the original document in state files, Fukino said. "What he got, everybody got," said Fukino. "He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate."

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

Wisch said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

83 posted on 05/19/2012 11:39:29 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Powerful entities wanted this man in place to do their bidding. They may indeed have decided to switch puppets and use Romney this time, but they are still going to make sure their tracks remain thoroughly covered.

I think you are quite correct on this, Jeeves. Especially in light of comments made by the despicable John McCain about Obama staying on the AZ ballot whether or not Hawaii provides the verification of eligibility requested by the SOS. I think we may be nearing a SHTF moment.

84 posted on 05/19/2012 11:40:17 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Exmil_UK

Good point. Onaka has tried to remain hidden in all this. He may well be the one who is balking at the illegality of it all.

But Onaka also knows that what Obama posted cannot be what they’ve got in their office, if previous HDOH and OIP responses have been accurate.

And Onaka is allowing his office to use a registrar’s stamp with TXE instead of THE in order to try to cover for Obama’s forged long-form. So even he will have some major answering to do if this thing breaks open.

I have spoken with a supervisor in Onaka’s office and from the comments he made and his laughter it sure seems like he knows that Janice Okubo is the dragon sitting on the treasure who’s lying to the world on Obama’s behalf.


85 posted on 05/19/2012 11:42:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

No. That’s when the notary’s commission expires. The expiration date of the notary commission is included for the purpose of comparison to the date of execution of the instrument (August 28, 2008) so that the recording agent (in this case, the South Carolina Election Commission) can see that the instrument was properly acknowledged so that it can be recorded.


86 posted on 05/19/2012 11:46:56 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Mortrey

Yes, they do have that reputation.

It is getting exciting.

We all need to really pray for the people involved - especially in AZ. It’s one thing to be operating under the radar but when the Eye of Sauron is on you, things start getting weird. Not just in a physical or mental sense, but in a spiritual sense as well. We’re dealing with utter lawlessness. All the enemies of both truth and freedom are united and invested in this battle - in a physical and spiritual sense. I strongly ask everybody to be covering our defenders at every level in protective prayer.


87 posted on 05/19/2012 11:49:27 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
"The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States."

- George Soros, The Age of Fallibility
88 posted on 05/19/2012 11:50:30 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Elderberry

89 posted on 05/19/2012 11:51:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: butterdezillion

I am an avid Ulsterman Report reader as well. He is one of the first things I check everyday.

I’m pretty sure you meant Feinstein, not Boxer:

“Speaking to an audience gathered in Santa Monica last night to commemorate the life of late political consultant Kam Kuwata, U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein concluded her praise for her long time friend with a surprise announcement. She said she had to keep a lot of secrets as the chairwoman of the Intelligence Committee, but she added, she was going to share one secret. At 7:30 pm tonight, she went on, the president is going to come on television to announce Osama Bin Laden had been killed. “


90 posted on 05/19/2012 11:54:08 AM PDT by sdcraigo
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To: txhurl
Arizona can’t MAKE Hawaii produce a legit document, and the DNC can’t MAKE Arizona produce a ballot with zero’s name on it.

This is one good mexican standoff.

Good, except the Mexicans won't standoff, they're walking into Arizona.

91 posted on 05/19/2012 11:56:50 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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To: butterdezillion
My point is that Onaka can't stamp a physical legal document without being an accessory in law.

The TXE is in a PDF, which is not the standard legal way a vital document is presented in court.

All these forgeries were on computer format, 0’s and 1’s, never a physical document presented to a “legal gatekeeper” like a State SOS.

Producing a computer file on the WH website is done because it has no legal meaning. A cheap magic trick to fool the public with no legal comeback.

92 posted on 05/19/2012 11:59:27 AM PDT by Exmil_UK
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To: Elderberry

IIRC, Arizona law doesn’t require that Obama or the DNC show a birth certificate. There was a move that I supported to change the law, but it died just after SB1070 was passed. Apparently the legislature (or the Gov) felt Arizona was already taking enough heat and didn’t want to pursue the matter.

I don’t think the current law gives the SecState the authority to decide who is eligible.


93 posted on 05/19/2012 12:03:09 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: butterdezillion
I agree. We are getting very close. From a post last night:

Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall and obama has set himself up for something spectacular.

I just hope he doesn't do something stupid and gets a lot of people killed on his way down.

We the people put him in a position of great power...is the destruction Proverbs 16:18 speaks of his alone, or ours along with his?

I think we’re all uneasy because we know something very big is imminent but can’t really do much about it.

If you have time, check out the book suggestion in my tagline. I think you'll be as amazed by what it explains as I am.

94 posted on 05/19/2012 12:04:13 PM PDT by GBA (Read: The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn If you read this anything this year, read this book!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

95 posted on 05/19/2012 12:04:34 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1215 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: Elderberry

Let the legal games begin.


96 posted on 05/19/2012 12:07:29 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: MHGinTN

Hawaii has never been a diehard patriotic state like the other 49. It was placed in the statehood hopper so that the democrats, longshoremen union, commies like Harry Bridges, would not lose political leverage with the inclusion of Alaska. There were many people of socialistic/communistic persuasion who took up Hawaiian residence because the State fitted their intentions, think of the Obama folks and Davis. I certain hope that there is some binding authority that will make Hawaii come clean. In the meantime encourage people to take their sunshine vacations some where else in the world more favorable to the vital interests of the USA.


97 posted on 05/19/2012 12:10:04 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: butterdezillion

For the last two days I have been getting so many hits on my blog for people searching for reports of the Keyes-Obama debate where Obama stated to Keyes that it did not matter that he was born overseas as he was only running for the senate.

(I have an article on it)

I’m curious as to why this is suddenly significant. Its like something is going on behind the scenes. Who is doing all the searching on this issue suddenly?

Curioser and curioser.


98 posted on 05/19/2012 12:18:35 PM PDT by wistful
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To: Smokeyblue

This is all very simply then. No proof, no ballot.


99 posted on 05/19/2012 12:26:35 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: CodeToad

>They (Hawaii) have said various things but never a certified statement of proof of any kind.<

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Tell this to Rush Limbaugh who still claims that he is 99.7% right.


100 posted on 05/19/2012 12:33:22 PM PDT by 353FMG
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