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Quinnipiac: Most think ObamaCare is a tax
The Hill ^

Posted on 07/12/2012 4:32:08 AM PDT by sunmars

A new Quinnipiac University poll shows why Barack Obama has been so reluctant to talk about his health care plan this summer.

55% of voters say ObamaCare is a tax, while only 36% say it's not. That's a nearly 20% gap and a huge political liability.

Some of the specs:

a. Voters think Congress should repeal the law, 49%-43%.

(Excerpt) Read more at gop12.thehill.com ...


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Obama is so screwed looking at this.

Independents think ObamaCare is a tax by a huge 59%-22% margin. Interestingly, Hispanics think it’s a tax by 60%/29%, which is an even higher margin than among whites. Now here’s the money stat: 27% of indies say it’ll make them less likely to vote for Obama, while only 9% say it will make them more likely. Major huge poll losses for Obama from this.

1 posted on 07/12/2012 4:32:17 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

well the gods in the supreme court...deemed it a tax.

and as only congress can levy a tax...then congress can remove said tax.


2 posted on 07/12/2012 4:35:20 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: sunmars

Obama could have been screwed. But Mr. RomneyCARE
cannot attack ObamaCARE because he cannot, as its author.


3 posted on 07/12/2012 4:37:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: sunmars

On constitutional grounds, the sc ruling was a disaster. Politically speaking however, the ruling really screwed the Hussien and the jackasses. It is something that is recinating with the public and what the Romney campaign AND the PAC’s will religiously remind voters this fall.


4 posted on 07/12/2012 4:42:01 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: TMA62

now we know why Obama aint talking about this whatsoever.


5 posted on 07/12/2012 4:44:31 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

It always was a tax. Obviously BO was lying, no news-flash there.


6 posted on 07/12/2012 4:46:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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To: sunmars

The Supreme Court said it.

I believe it.

It’s a tax.

The biggest tax in the history of the western world.


7 posted on 07/12/2012 4:50:00 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: sunmars

If stuff like this continued, Obama may have to resort to a tactic John Kerry used in 2004 — running on someone else’s record, not his own.

John Kerry had so little accomplishments during his Senate career that he claimed several senatorial accomplishes of Bob KerrEy as being his own accomplishments.

Obama, now that the SC has labeled Obamacare as a tax, is running from that. We have video/audio/text records of Obama claiming since 2009, that he would not raise taxes ‘one dime’, etc.

Obama cannot run on his economics/jobs records. He continues to claim he created 4.4 million jobs in 28 months. But on closer exam, that equates to an average of about 58,000 new jobs per WEEK, while new unemployment claims are running at 380,000 per WEEK. For each job Obama apparently created, 9 others lost their jobs. Note that the recent June job creation for the MONTH was only 80,000.


8 posted on 07/12/2012 4:50:29 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Diogenesis

There is one nuanced difference between Obamacare and the Romneycare legislation - the Romneycare STOPPED at the state boundary. Obamacare seeps into every pore of the entire nation, Main Street to Wall Street, Gulf to the Great Lakes, coast to coast, border to border, from islands east of the mainland to far-flung sites accessible only through travel over international routes.

And since it STOPPED at the borders of one state, that state retains the power to modify, repeal, rescind, or exalt the application of the statutes as they now stand. It may well be that Massachuetts could end up rejecting the current law, and rewriting it totally and completely (though, being Massachuetts, that is highly unlikely). The same holds true for the current application of the seriously misnamed “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act”, which attains neither of its stated goals to lower costs, or provide much protection for its victims, er, recipients.


9 posted on 07/12/2012 4:55:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: Diogenesis
Obama could have been screwed. But Mr. RomneyCARE cannot attack ObamaCARE because he cannot, as its author.

He can, and he must.

Like it or not, Mr. Romney now holds the role as "leader of the opposition" to the Obama regime.

He should not shy away from his responsibility, regardless of how hypocritical it may seem.

We all wish that Romney didn't have that political "baggage" to begin with, but nonetheless, he has been selected to represent our positions and values against Obama and his political machine, so he must step up to the plate and fight for our side.

Conservatives must insist that Romney, as the presumptive nominee, supports and upholds our values, regardless of how difficult it may be for him personally.

10 posted on 07/12/2012 4:57:47 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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He can, and he must.

He did yesterday in front of the NAACP. Unfortunately, some cannot see the truth through their own prejudices..

11 posted on 07/12/2012 5:00:37 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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To: TomGuy

Don’t forget...John Kerry served in Viet Nam too.


12 posted on 07/12/2012 5:07:04 AM PDT by moovova (Ladies & Gentlemen...Pandora has left the box.)
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To: alloysteel
There is no nuance, FRiend.

DEATH PANELS are death panels.

Same for socialized medicine.


13 posted on 07/12/2012 5:12:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jess Kitting
You are wrong two ways.

First, Mr. Romney is only the PRESUMED candidate
and he has demanded delegates BOW to him and RomneyCARE.

Second, Mr. RomneyCARE, author of death panels himself,
is not equipped to defend this important conservative issue.

14 posted on 07/12/2012 5:14:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: sunmars

“55% of voters say ObamaCare is a tax, while only 36% say it’s not.”

They are both correct. It can’t be a tax for the half that won’t be paying the tax.


15 posted on 07/12/2012 5:20:00 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: sunmars

Ya know, we really need to hammer this home to people in any way we can.Not just the mandate tax but how Obama LIED. All well and good to talk to other FReepers but we need to get this out to other folks who might still be caught in the Hope and Change BS. I’m a big fan of letters to the editor, getting on internet newspaper sites and making “comments” on articles, talking about it really loudly in supermarket lines... whatever we can. do. This is a winning issue. Not just the mandate tax but the other $500 billion in taxes imbedded in this bill. And the CBO revised the cost to $2.6 trillion (not $900 billion).


16 posted on 07/12/2012 5:21:09 AM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: sunmars
It does not matter what anyone “thinks” about this... it is a tax because the highest ranking black robed terrorist in the USA deemed it so in the legislation that he rewrote.

LLS

17 posted on 07/12/2012 5:29:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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its does matter what people thinks when they go to vote, supreme court may call it a tax but if voters dont think it is, its null and void and thankfully it seems most voters think its a big ole tax.


18 posted on 07/12/2012 5:41:34 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: Jess Kitting

Romney may be the standard bearer for your values, but he doesn’t even give a passing nod to mine.


19 posted on 07/12/2012 5:56:15 AM PDT by arderkrag (ABOs are Romneybot trolls. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: sunmars
Obviously but in a legal sense... it does not matter what anyone “thinks”. It is a TAX because roberts rewrote a bill to fit his contorted bastardization of the US Constitution.

LLS

20 posted on 07/12/2012 6:49:16 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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