Posted on 08/27/2012 9:59:24 AM PDT by Baynative
This video is specific about the crash we can all expect given the current ethical make up of our congress. I think it should be shared and I'd like to hear pro or con commentary from folks here who are more educated in economics than I.
Sadly, I don't think that we can, mostly because over the last ten years or so the liberals have gone stark raving insane.
I dont think there will be full out sudden collapse. What I think is that there will be gradual economic decline and people will adjust to living with less over time.
I too agree with you. Our lying bankers and politicians wouldn’t allow an overnight scene to happen. They are professionals not amateurs at lying to crowds.
A sudden collapse would be the result of a nuclear strike or a catastrophic earthquake, flooding or a series of tornadoes.
Even then I have a hard time seeing where it would engulf the entire nation. It would affect the entire nation, some areas much more seriously than others. I pray that if such an event were to occur that it would happen at night when the majority of families are together.
America is connected by millions of miles of pipeline that carry our water, aviation fuels, natural gas, sewage, electricity, telecommunications, etc. If the transfer centers were to have multiple ruptures then there wouldn’t be enough technicians and trained welders in the world to repair them in a year.
The large cities would be in serious trouble overnight if all of their highways became impassable. If you’ve got it, a truck brought it.
Imagine the railroads being shutdown because they can’t refuel the locomotives or the tracks are separated. The loss of receivables would crush one industry after another until they all close the doors.
Hospitals without running water or electricity and empty freight docks become warehouses for corpses rather quickly.
As rockrr said, “I have no confidence in our leaders - national, state, or local. I believe that the system theyve devised is idiotic, top-heavy, and doomed to failure (of the catastrophic and spectacular variety).”
Having a bucket full of gold coins or hard cash isn’t going to be worth spit if there is no food available to buy. If you don’t have a good shotgun then you will be sitting there waiting for the looters to come to your door.
Keep in mind that when the police car drives down your street telling you to evacuate that the men inside it may be looters, not cops. When THE SHTF, that will be the time to think for yourself not follow orders like sheep.
One of my biggest fears.
they already are:
Americans saw wealth plummet 40 percent from 2007 to 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/fed-americans-wealth-dropped-40-percent/2012/06/11/gJQAlIsCVV_story.html
frogs in the boiling pot
Don't forget an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) which I feel is entirely within the realm of possibility.
Consider an "innocent" cargo ship off the east or west coast hiding missile launch tubes. Pop up a couple of missiles with a nuke warhead or radio frequency weapon. Detonate it 100-200 miles up.
The majority of the USA will be completely disabled in a nanosecond. THAT is a sudden collapse. Everything digital no longer works. Cars, trucks, buses, cell phones, smart phones, land line phones, computers, Internet, radios, video games, book readers (Kindle), walkie talkies, even your stove and fridge if they are digital. If you're 15 miles from home when it happens, how will you get home? How will you communicate with your loved ones? Not a shot was fired and yet the US is down for the count. And it will be at least 6 months to a year before meaningful help arrives.
Think I'm nuts? Go read One Second After by William-Forstchen with a forward by Newt Gringrich. You're eyes will be opened.
We are on the Razor’s edge with our economics, government and our society and it won’t take much to pull things over the edge like a row of dominoes.
Personally I expect something much like the well I think that we are in for something like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale.
Additionally I think we will see a much more violent version. As recent events show (Flash Mobs, OWS, etc) we have a larger entitlement minded population and violent prone and armed population than Argentina. I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and see rape, robbery and murder for murder sake.
Many of these yutes will think no more about killing you than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the yutes. On the other hand the yutes wont think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.
I can’t help, but think of this quote which is one of my favorites:
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8) (1998)
Quark: “Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. Theyre a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You dont believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”
Clearly theres a storm coming, as great as a hurricane and like you do when a hurricane comes your way you either prepare to weather it or you become a victim of it.
For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:
http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf
NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!
For those of you who havent started already its time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.
Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3
There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.
I agree with everything you say but that falls under “nuclear strike” IMO. If someone is foolish enuf to try it then hopefully our subs would clear their decks.
Thirty years ago I helped wire a LE man’s whole office as a Farraday cage so don’t think the entire system would go down. I keep a laptop pc with my radios and walkie talkies in a cage. A lot of people are prepped for that issue.
I keep wondering what is going to cause the collapse of the markets that Jim Rogers, Jr. is talking about.
That is why I included the possibility of a radio wave weapon which is not nuclear. Not as powerful either, but still capable of creating tremendous, instantaneous damage and chaos.
If someone is foolish enuf to try it then hopefully our subs would clear their decks.
First ya gotta figure out "who" it was. With badly damaged operational capabilities, that may be initially impossible.
What did Kudlow have to say - I missed it.
Kudlow is one of my favorite economists. He’s pragmatic and he is also prescient.
He was totally on the Convention, Romney, Obama....etc.
No help on the morning topics.
He was totally on the Convention, Romney, Obama....etc.
No help on the morning topics.
“If there is an end-game, it will be a semi-feudal society with technological trappings. But the great masses of people will be little better than urban serfs, with an omnipotent government doling out the ration of daily necessities.”
Sounds a lot like the Hunger Games, which strangely enough was written by a Leftist.
Good video, very good thread.
DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic. DISMANTLE domestic socialist programs. DEPOPULATE socialists from the body politic.
It’s easy to...
live - free - republic...
It’s the socialism, stupid (not directed at anyone on this forum).
BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM (watch the link, again)
See some of the damage socialists have done to this great nation.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/ (watch the link, again)
BE PREPARED (read comments, again)
More crony socialism revealed...
http://dailybail.com/home/cronyism-revealed-goldman-ceo-lloyd-blankfeins-criminal-defe.html
(hat tip for the above link to Daily Bail...poster at zerohedge...Monday August 27, 2012 20.55),,,here...
BE PREPARED (read comments, again)
BE PREPARED (read comments, again)
BE PREPARED (read comments, again)
Ferfal’s blog on surviving Argentina’s collapse is an excellent resource. They’re years into a national collapse.
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