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Exasperation builds on Day 3 in storm-stricken NYC
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 11/1/12 | LEANNE ITALIE and MEGHAN BARR

Posted on 11/01/2012 6:13:53 PM PDT by Kartographer

In darkened neighborhoods, people walked around with miner's lamps on their foreheads and bicycle lights clipped to shoulder bags and, in at least one case, to a dog's collar. A Manhattan handyman opened a fire hydrant so people could collect water to flush toilets. "You can clearly tell at the office, or even walking down the street, who has power and who doesn't," said Jordan Spiro, who lives in the blackout zone. "New Yorkers may not be known as the friendliest bunch, but take away their ability to shower and communicate and you'll see how disgruntled they can get."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: humannature; perparedness; preparedness; preppers; prepping
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Can you identify the rocks that will make a suitable cutting edge?”

Rocks that have a fracture point.


61 posted on 11/01/2012 9:00:52 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Iron Munro

Knowledge about changing a tire is damned useful. Tried it unsuccesfully the first time in 2000. Did it successfully in 2006, thank goodness, since it was July 4 and I was invited to a cookout.


62 posted on 11/01/2012 9:05:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Flushing, Ridgewood, Jackson Heights, Maspeth, Corona, Astoria, Woodside and Sunny Side have all came through unscathed. No power losses and most stores are open. The only effect so far are the trains and gas stations. The gas stations are getting fuel soon so that problem will be taken care of. Most of the city was not hurt from this. But the areas that were, are going to be unlivable for a long time.
63 posted on 11/01/2012 9:06:31 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: Iron Munro

Where did you come up with this nonsense?


64 posted on 11/01/2012 9:08:40 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: SaraJohnson

“I expected the surge because that storm looked like Ike that came into Texas. :(”

Yes, it was like Ike in that it was so large. I thought the blowing high winds of Ike would never stop and I’ve been in hurricanes before. Ike blew water through a very solid locked window. Didn’t know it until I saw water on the stone floor under that window in the kitchen.


65 posted on 11/01/2012 9:08:46 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You’re talking about changing the tire on a rim right? Same rim, new tire. My Mexican neighbors do it all the time, don’t even have a tire machine, just long tire levers. Have to do the flash-pop trick to get the bead to seat on large tires sometimes.


66 posted on 11/01/2012 9:08:57 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: JimC214

Well, some happy news and some not so happy news. Let’s pray that new storm fizzles.


67 posted on 11/01/2012 9:09:44 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Ancesthntr

“The only positive here is that this is a big, in-your-face teachable moment. Millions, and not just in the Northeast, will take prepping more seriously and actually store a few days or couple weeks of food and water, plus have more batteries, camp stoves with propane, gas, tarps, blankets, etc.”

But I thought that made us terrorist threats per nappy head and Homeland Security. I grew up in the Midwest. I remember losing power multiple times and a grandmother with a root cellar because she grew up without supermarkets. I’ve always had a well stocked pantry before I qualified as a “prepper.”


68 posted on 11/01/2012 9:13:29 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, the wolfpacks are on the march. It’s not going to be reported by the buttboy media...

Watch Glenn Beck if you want to know the extent of the pillaging, rape, looting and burglary. This is Obama’s Katrina.


69 posted on 11/01/2012 9:14:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (14 million US deer tags this fall... the world's largest standing army of scoped-rifle marksmen. Hmm)
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To: Marcella
I would expect you to know stuff like that. You aren't anybody's dummy. In fact, sometimes, you are sorta scary. ;)

How about this one. Given a green sapling, 1.5 inches in diameter, 5 ft long, your sharp rock and a fire... how do you make a hasty, field expedient spear out of it that will bring down a feral pig?

Assume we will give it to a brawny young man that isn't too bright and will poke a feral pig with a spear and maybe live through it.

/johnny

70 posted on 11/01/2012 9:15:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yehuda

can you go back and ask them if they got food, blankets and flashlights now? Im interested in their response.


71 posted on 11/01/2012 9:20:36 PM PDT by Redcitizen (A good pun is its own reword.)
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To: steve86
Have to do the flash-pop trick to get the bead to seat on large tires sometimes.

The safety NCO in me just has to say 'that isn't very safe'. But yes, ether, or hairspray works to seat the bead.

If you have a running vehicle that can move, breaking the bead off the rim can be done by carefully driving over the old tire (not the rim), without the use of the tire tools. Also, not very safe, but it does work.

/johnny

72 posted on 11/01/2012 9:22:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
People have been using WD-40 (which everyone has around) and claim it gives the perfect quick expansion without too much of a tendency to catch fire like...


73 posted on 11/01/2012 9:35:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: JimC214
I dunno about Flushing coming through "unscathed". I walked 2.6 miles today to get some stuff my handyman needed. I didn't want to move my car because (1) it's in a protected parking space, away from the ginormous trees which weakened, are still falling and (2) you can't find gas for love nor money. While my handyman sawed and nailed a beautiful mounting together for my shutters, I made a whole lotta phone calls on his behalf to try and find him a working gas station, as he barely had enough fumes to make it home. One gas station (and I know I dialed the right number...) told me I'd dialed a CEMETERY! Well, things WERE pretty dead, they had no gas. Every call I made, "No gas", "No gas", and "No gas".

As I walked to the hardware store (the clerks were using flashlights to go and find stuff for you and the cash register was running on a noisy gasoline generator), I saw gigantic trees fallen across streets, a car completely pancaked under a giant tree, a giant tree which pulled up the whole sidewalk when it fell, etc. A doctor a block down from the hardware store was frantically asking the florist shop next door if he could run an extension cord to their electricity because he had to access a patient's records.

Whereas it is true that we were not flooded nor had widespread electricity outages, people WERE affected. The buses are pretty much back, but the subways have only partial service. It's still horrible to try and get around. I hope things return swiftly to normal for everyone's sake.

Around here, we don't have deposits of obsidian or flint near the surface to make knives. We don't have deer in the woods that we don't have either. You wouldn't want to eat the fish caught locally. I am very good at scrounging, inventing, and making do. Please don't ridicule the folks who don't have that kind of background or talent. They were never educated in survival skills because this kind of circumstance never happened here before in their lifetime. A lot of people around here (especially in the hard-hit Staten Island and Far Rockaway areas) are really suffering, without food, heat, potable water, and many lost everything they had in floods and fires. I am sure that with the things they CAN do, they are making a contribution to humanity somewhere.

74 posted on 11/01/2012 9:36:12 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: DUMBGRUNT

City water pressure will not push water above about the sith floor. So high rise buildings use electric pump to pump water up to a reservoir on the roof that feeds water to the whole build. With the pumps off because there’s no power once the reservoir empties there no water in the building.


75 posted on 11/01/2012 9:39:02 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; JRandomFreeper; Kartographer

“Knowledge about changing a tire is damned useful.”

I can’t do work like that and I’m not strong like a man and that is a deficit in my preps. Maybe I need to look at single websites and put on an “ad” for a male who is strong and can change a tire and do other work like that including having electronic knowledge and has good weapons and knows how to use them. I have a fine Remington shotgun and rifle and they are too heavy for me to use. I don’t even have ammo for either one and I should have.

This would be a paid job for this fellow, not a singles thingy because he needs to be single so he doesn’t have a family to help in an emergency as that is when I would need him. How else am I going to fix this deficit problem as I can’t order one from a survival store.


76 posted on 11/01/2012 9:42:45 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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To: lookout88

“Hummm. I’m sure a lot of them laughed at doomsday preppers.”

Ahh yes, those pesky, yet ubiquitous “bitter clingers.”

They are now all looking for their nerdy friends who plan and can fend for themselves....

Best not say more.


77 posted on 11/01/2012 9:44:12 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Putting a jack base on the tire and then jacking up the vehicle to break bead? I haven’t used either of these methods.


78 posted on 11/01/2012 9:45:07 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture tm)
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To: Starstruck

“Not that I believe it but Achilles had one weakness that lead to his downfall.”

Yes, but Achilles’ weakness was not being unable to get from here to there or provide for his basis sustenance.

When I think of the storm victims I’m seeing in such desperation, without water, batteries, gas, etc, Achilles does not come to mind.


79 posted on 11/01/2012 9:49:51 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: EinNYC
I agree with most everything you have said, but the areas I mentioned have minor damage compared to the areas that were most affected. And as for my comment about the individuals who are so busy telling us all about there prowess in being able to survive total disaster, you will see stupid comments about how city dwellers could never survive what ever fantasy scenario that they dream about at night. Because as we all know, any one who lives in NYC has never done anything like survived in the wilderness. Some of the comments made are silly and boring. Apparently where these Super Freepers live, no one ever complains or breaks the law. I will be flamed for these comments, but I really don't care.
80 posted on 11/01/2012 9:50:41 PM PDT by JimC214
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