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The 4 Benefits of Marrying Young
Pajamas Media ^ | 12/01/2012 | Paula Bolyard

Posted on 12/02/2012 7:21:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

A recent article on Yahoo extolled “The Benefits of Marrying Later in Life.” The writer, who waited until age 46 to marry, listed the benefits of delaying marriage:

– Learning to love herself and accept her self-worth
– Time to become her own person
– Benefit of knowing who she is
– Experiencing life as her own complete person

With all due respect to the author, her list looks like a recipe for perpetual singleness. A decade or more of doing what’s best for “me” and learning to love and complete “myself” is not the best way to prepare for the sacrifices and selflessness required to be one half of a couple. Be honest: Would you want to marry someone who has spent two entire decades of her life “learning to love herself”? She’s going to be a tough act to follow.

According to the Pew Research Center, the median age for marriage in the United States has risen to a record 28.7 for men and 26.5 for women, which means that half are older than the median when they marry. Marriage overall has declined as well; barely half of Americans are currently married, a record low, compared to 72% in 1960.

But those averages don’t tell the whole story. More and more in our society, success is defined as progressing along a pathway that includes high school, college, graduate or professional school, a career with a 6-figure salary, and, after a long succession of “practice” relationships, perhaps marriage and children (if the woman’s AARP-eligible eggs hold out that long).

Of course, it hasn’t always been that way. Until the early 1900s, no one had ever heard the words “teenager” and “adolescence.” Upon reaching the age of maturity (usually in the late teens), young people were expected to court and marry in short order. If a 20-something lived in his parents’ basement, he usually had a good excuse — such as missing hands and feet, or being in a permanent comatose state. In the book From Front Porch to Back Seat: Courtship in Twentieth Century America, Beth Bailey describes the societal changes that led to our current dating and marriage culture and the new phase of life we now know as extended adolescence:

Because young people were released, to a great extent, from adult responsibilities and decisions, the act of choosing a lifelong mate did not seem so immediately important. Within youth culture, the emphasis in courtship shifted to the social and recreational process of dating…

In a span of about 50 years, we went from supervised courtship with the expectation that marriage would be the end result to casual, recreational dating and, eventually, cohabitation as an accepted precursor or replacement for marriage. As a result of these cultural changes, not only has the marriage age crept steadily upward, but so has the divorce rate. Currently around 50% of new marriages end in divorce, compared to 8% in 1900 and 25% in the early 70s, when no-fault divorce laws appeared.

In light of these statistics, I’d like to suggest four compelling reasons why marrying earlier in life (perhaps by the mid-20s) might be beneficial.

4. Fewer relationships are better.

In his book I Kissed Dating Goodbye, Joshua Harris recounts a young woman’s dream about her wedding day. As she meets her groom at the altar, other young women begin to line up behind her future husband. They are both devastated as they realize that he will be bringing his (rather large) entourage of ex-girlfriends into their marriage. Harris goes on to explain that the dream was a metaphor for his dating experience.

He realized that he had given each girl a piece of his heart and had taken pieces of theirs. Each successive relationship left him with a little less to give to his future wife. It’s like when you stick two pieces of masking tape together and pull them apart. If you continue to repeat the process over and over again, eventually no stickiness remains. There would always be memories, thoughts, and images that were shared in previous relationships that would influence, and to some extent shape, the future marriage. Memories from past relationships can linger for dozens of years and threaten the foundations of even the most stable marriages. According to a survey at Your Tango, thinking about exes is a serious problem:

- 74% of women and 64% of men think about their ex too much
- 76% of women and 70% of men have looked up an ex on the internet
- 50% of women and 40% of men say they look at their ex’s Facebook or other online profile too often

In simple risk-assessment terms, the less baggage and the fewer corpses of past relationships you drag into your marriage, the stronger the foundation will be.

3. You can enjoy the journey of growing together.

Regardless of your age at the time of your marriage, you can count on both partners changing over the course of the relationship. Those who marry younger grow together rather than independently. My husband and I are approaching the 25-mile marker in our marriage and we are not the same people we married those many years ago. I was working at a job I hated and my husband was going to school and working at an oil change shop while serving in the National Guard. We lived frugally in a 3-room rental in a sketchy neighborhood in W. Akron. A few years later we bought our first house in a neighborhood on the outskirts of inner-city Akron for $38,000. Gary spent his weekends keeping our cars running and I learned how to make 101 recipes using ground chuck, which was $0.89/lb back then. If we had waited until our 30s or 40s to marry, we’d have missed those precious years of working together toward our goals and watching the lovely, slow progress that emerges over the years of living life as a team and arriving at the destination together. I wouldn’t trade those years of joy and struggles for anything. King Solomon, a man of extraordinary wisdom, had this to say: ”

Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! (Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 ESV)

I suppose there are benefits to waiting until you have everything figured out and you have achieved success in your career before you “settle down,” but what a grand adventure you are missing along the way with the love of your life!

2. Sex and babies are for the young.

Our sexual desires and ability to procreate are innate, God-given characteristics. Those are precious, beautiful things and, as a Christian, I believe the Bible teaches they are reserved for the confines of marriages (read Steven Crowder’s excellent account of the rewards of abstinence before marriage). This is the best plan for a healthy, happy marriage. Expecting men and women with this sexual ethic to suppress those feelings until they are 30 or even 40 is frustrating, difficult, and, probably for many, cruel and unusual punishment. Marrying earlier rather than later avoids the frustration of denying and repressing one’s natural sexual urges and allows them to be expressed appropriately in the context of marriage. In addition, the 20s are the peak fertility years, especially for women. Marrying earlier can help avoid the heartache of infertility that so many couples face when they postpone childbearing until they complete their education and then spend a dozen years establishing their careers. It’s counterintuitive to delay having children until after the woman’s best chances for conception have passed. There is also the added benefit of not being the dad who asks for the senior discount at the ice cream stand after his kid’s t-ball game. And think about the weirdness of picking up both Children’s Tylenol and your Low-T medicine at the pharmacy.

1. Marrying early avoids the shacking-up trap.

For many couples, living together before marriage is a cover for their unwillingness to make a mature, adult commitment. I’ll first refer back to my previous point about God’s plan for sexual abstinence before marriage and monogamy within as the best route to a happy and healthy marriage. But in addition to that, I believe that cohabitation sets a very unhealthy pattern that leads to a culture of divorce. Living together before marriage to “see if we’re compatible” is practicing failure. The unspoken (or sometimes spoken) agreement is that if it doesn’t work out or if my partner doesn’t fulfill my desires, we can both walk away. It’s built on a foundation of selfishness and flies in the face of “For better or worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and health, forsaking all others, until death parts us.” Marriage is fun, fulfilling, and amazing, but it’s also really, really hard sometimes. There can be long periods of time when couples must wade through difficult periods of medical issues, family crises, financial problems, and routine boredom. Cohabitation gives couples license to walk away in the face of those difficulties, with the excuse that “they must not be compatible” or it “ wasn’t meant to be.” In contrast, marriage (technically) requires a commitment to permanence. Couples that survive and endure through dozens of years of marriage do so not because their marriages aren’t touched by trials, tragedies, and heartache, but because they manage to navigate these difficulties and persevere, fiercely resolute in the commitment they have made to one another and, for many, to God.

In his counter-cultural book Dating with Integrity, John Holzmann describes the solemnity of the vows, beginning at the moment of engagement:

To be betrothed means to be promised. People used to speak of “plighting” (pledging, promising) one’s “troth.” Troth means faithfulness, loyalty, promise. But whether we call it engagement or betrothal, the main thing people need to attend to is that their promises are true and they will do whatever they must in order to fulfill them. At the point of engagement or betrothal the great transition should occur. It is here that one should make one’s vows and plan to keep them. Before one makes a vow, all one’s questions should be answered concerning whether or not he or she intends to fulfill it. It is at the point of engagement that the big shift should occur between being “mere” friends to being committed to one another as husband and wife for the rest of our lives.

Couples in trial marriages via cohabitation arrangements refuse to make such commitments and instead enter into agreements that are, at their root, open-ended and even selfish. Experiencing one or more of these relationships/arrangements teaches couples to take the easy way out when the going gets rough. Rather than making semi-sincere vows (which, by the way, can also be made or implied in non-cohabitating serious relationships), perhaps we need a return to what our grandparents practiced: Avoiding the “practice marriage” trap by marrying young, embracing the gravity and solemnity of the marriage commitment, waiting until the wedding day to move in together, and staying together for life.

There are many factors to consider when deciding when and whom to marry: the maturity of the individuals, their financial independence, whether they have a realistic view of marriage, and, of course, whether they’ve found the right person to marry. The bottom line is that what we’ve been doing for the last fifty years isn’t really working. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that the way we do marriage is failing miserably, evidenced by the colossal divorce rate. It’s time to examine our modern marriage paradigms and ask if we can learn a thing or two from generations past. While I’m not suggesting that early marriage is right for everyone, I am saying that we shouldn’t automatically dismiss it out of hand just because current conventional wisdom says it’s a bad idea and the “experts” tell us that we need to spend a decade or more of our adulthood “finding ourselves” and learning to love ourselves more.



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1 posted on 12/02/2012 7:21:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You will most likey get to experience the joys of :

1. Divorce
2. Alimony
3. Child Support
4. Getting married again


2 posted on 12/02/2012 7:23:58 AM PST by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

5. Grandkids know grandparents more time. Wish my daughter did.


3 posted on 12/02/2012 7:25:17 AM PST by MNDude
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To: SeekAndFind

How about this?

It allows you to get that first divorce early while you are still young and can find someone else hopefully seriously the second round?


4 posted on 12/02/2012 7:26:30 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems want to win.The GOP wants to whine. Why dont they fight to win like Dems do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

you can have your kids on welfare longer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LWlkXRZ3CA


5 posted on 12/02/2012 7:27:29 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was engaged twice before I finally got married at 35.

I think that worked out right. Saved myself two divorces by today’s statistics.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 7:27:57 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SeekAndFind
If we had waited until our 30s or 40s to marry, we’d have missed those precious years of working together toward our goals and watching the lovely, slow progress that emerges over the years of living life as a team and arriving at the destination together.

Though I don't disagree with the author's premises about the benefits of early marriage, economic growth as a couple is a relic of an age when politicians actually wanted the US economy to grow. We have now ushered in a new Age of Redistribution, so it is entirely possible young couples are just going to watch themselves get poorer and poorer with each passing year, unable to make progress against the Leviathan State.

7 posted on 12/02/2012 7:29:08 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see anything wrong with the median ages... 28/29 for men and 26 for women. I was 26 when I married. I met the right person to spend the rest of my life together. IMHO marriage is a huge step in one’s life and they should make that decision based on maturity. I’m not saying that a 21 year old can’t make a mature decision. I am simply saying that marriage shouldn’t be on some societal imposed age requirement.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 7:29:20 AM PST by momtothree
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To: clamper1797

Married at 17, hubby was 20!
Going to celebrate 54 years of marriage this coming February.
EVERYONE of my sisters who are older than me,(3).... along with my parents who married at 16/19 .....celebrated 60 plus years.

The secret?? GOD first in the marriage.


9 posted on 12/02/2012 7:37:02 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: SeekAndFind
Amusing article, but certainly not to be taken all that seriously. Some of its theses are not without merit, and may apply to some individuals, but are not universally true.

Here's one that I'd say is rarely true:

A decade or more of doing what’s best for “me” and learning to love and complete “myself” is not the best way to prepare for the sacrifices and selflessness required to be one half of a couple.

I believe that it is best to get to thoroughly "know thyself" - warts and all - before trying to enter into a life relationship with someone else. For some, it is only through being alone that they will eventually realize just how selfish they actually are - thus permitting them to recognize and address the problem.

My only regret is that I'll probably be ancient before I can dandle my grandkids on my knee.

Regards,

10 posted on 12/02/2012 7:39:24 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: MNDude
Good point.

I'm a very young grandfather and very young looking. Strangers all think I'm the father -- not grandfather -- of my 12-year-old grandson.

Another plus in being a young grandfather is that I DESTROY him (still) in all sports -- including basketball.

I like that. Lol.

11 posted on 12/02/2012 7:54:27 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Men and women are different species. As a general rule, women reach their peak of desirability in their 20s and it goes down from there, though the steepness of the downward slope varies. In contrast, men are all over the map. Some men who are studs in their 20s are unrecognizable by 40 (and not in a good way). Others who are “nerds” when they are younger get much more desirable as they age. But, the bottom line is that women have a much shorter shelf life than men in terms of being viewed as a prospective mate.

Many young women fall into the trap of having a boyfriend for 5+ years who has no intention of ever marrying them. I realize that they might love these guys, but they are wasting the best years of their lives on someone who is essentially using them. On the other hand, I think having more experience helps a man stay married. In that way, he won’t feel like he’s missing out on something when he gets older.

There is a rule for men that states: marry someone who is half your age + 7). I think this is a good rule for both men and women.


12 posted on 12/02/2012 7:55:33 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81

“As a general rule, women reach their peak of desirability in their 20’s and it goes down from there...”

Really? Men “are all over the map?” Either you look good for your age or you don’t. Let me guess... you are under 30?


13 posted on 12/02/2012 8:03:37 AM PST by momtothree
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To: clamper1797
You will most likey get to experience the joys of :

also:

Being the day-care sitter at the age of 45 while single daughter/mom has to work

14 posted on 12/02/2012 8:06:48 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: SeekAndFind

And for a guy who waits till late in life before getting married, chances are it’ll be to a divorcee with kids of her own who are ultimately going to hate you.......


15 posted on 12/02/2012 8:11:33 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: pollywog
I see no one has bothered to congratulate you, please allow me to be the first. You and your husband got it right! God first has to be taught and lived by the teachers, not many parents are that good these days. Y'all did good!
16 posted on 12/02/2012 8:20:05 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: pepperdog

Thank you!


17 posted on 12/02/2012 8:25:28 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: momtothree

I think you’re missing the point. Its not that people can’t look good for your age. However, all else being equal, men find women 20s more desirable period. They may deny it, but its true.


18 posted on 12/02/2012 8:30:20 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81
Many young women fall into the trap of having a boyfriend for 5+ years who has no intention of ever marrying them.

I am sad to say, very sad, that my eldest daughter is one of those young women. She spent 3 years with one guy, and it didn't work out. I told her don't do that again, waste 3 years on someone who will never commit. She did anyway. There was also a high school guy that she wasted a few years on.

So, now she is 29 with three broken hearts and no prospects at the moment for the future.

She is a highly intelligent young woman; but, she went from high school, to college, to grad school, to working for a university. So, a very smart girl, with some very silly ideas. I think the culture, and the educational system, fill these girls with ideas that the most important thing is to have a fulfilling career. When they realize that they actually do want a husband and a family, they are at an age where getting both of those things are problematic.

19 posted on 12/02/2012 8:56:02 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: SeekAndFind

I got married at 22. I’ve been married 20 years. We had kids at ages 26 and 30.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 8:58:30 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: SeekAndFind

Another benefit of marrying and having kids young is that they are “gone” while you are still young. Mine moved out at 18, I was 39 and I went to college. A whole new world. And it was fun in class where the young un’s would ask me “do you have a No. 2 pencil? — “an extra scan tron” — “can I borrow your notes from last Tuesday?” Annonyed me at first but I learned to enjoy it.


21 posted on 12/02/2012 9:14:30 AM PST by bunster
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I was engaged twice before I finally got married at 35.

i was 31, and didn't meet my future husband until i was just about to turn 30... i could have married before that--a couple of times... so glad i didn't marry anyone who came before my husband... and even now in my late 40s (and he in his early 50s) sex is good!

22 posted on 12/02/2012 9:20:43 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lots to agree with in this article…. with the strongest point likely being that sex with other partners (before supposedly that one big final permanent commitment) will mean that one’s heart is just that much more fragmented and hence more unable to love and focus on one’s spouse. This means that marriages between anybody other than virgins have a serious handicap and the divorce stats show it. One thing to strongly disagree with in the article… Sex is NOT just for the young. It is the primary element of the lifelong commitment that ultimately is the essence of marriage itself….in fact, it’s the only distinguishing feature that separates the marital relationship from all other relationships. Without sex, a marriage is for all intents and purposes, dead and that is true for all ages.


23 posted on 12/02/2012 9:21:58 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: pepperdog
If you read follow the Bible, man is to leave his parents and be joined with his wife. He is not to leave his parents and go find himself. Men left on their own are more likely to grow self centered.

By the way married for 17 years, at the age of 22. We have four kids and could not have imagined doing it when we were in our 30’s. I know she makes me a better man. Without her, I would not know happyness.

24 posted on 12/02/2012 9:24:15 AM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
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To: SeekAndFind

This would be fine if we didn’t raise a society of perpetual adolescents.


25 posted on 12/02/2012 9:29:11 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: LibertarianLiz
So, now she is 29 with three broken hearts and no prospects at the moment for the future.

i met my husband at 29 after a series of long-term relationships... i guess the thing is, i didn't want to get married before then... i was raised being told i would not marry young... and so i always knew i would not marry young... i love the life i had before i got married--bought my first house when i was 25, enjoyed my career, worked in ministry with wonderful young adult Christians... met my kindred spirit, who is 5 years older than i... we married a year later... when i met my husband i was sure i could marry him... and i treated my relationship with him differently than my relationships with the others...

26 posted on 12/02/2012 9:31:54 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: clamper1797

Of course the downside is being single at 30 and realizing that “all of the good ones are already taken.”


27 posted on 12/02/2012 9:35:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; fieldmarshaldj; Impy

“...all of the good ones are already taken.”

With a FEW acceptions, that is very true when it comes to women, especially in this day and age.


28 posted on 12/02/2012 9:39:50 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

So, a very smart girl, with some very silly ideas. I think the culture, and the educational system, fill these girls with ideas that the most important thing is to have a fulfilling career.


Well, it is important for a woman to be able to earn a living. Obviously all marriages don’t last. I likewise feel sorry for women who get married early and then get dumped (often for a “newer” model) years later with kids to support and no real job skills.

That being said, the smartest women are the ones are are both educated and marry in their 20s. Its okay to have a career, but family should come first. I think many young women have been brainwashed into thinking that they can find a husband at any age. Not saying its impossible, but after 29, it gets much harder with each passing year.

Your daughter may also want to set her sights on older men, as they might appreciate her more. I can see where a 29 year old woman might not want to marry someone over 40, but there are advantages.


29 posted on 12/02/2012 9:42:13 AM PST by rbg81
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To: MNDude

I was 43 when my first grandchild was born. She is now 28 married, and we still spend time together making memories.


30 posted on 12/02/2012 9:47:27 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I think in their minds people want to “maximize” instead of “satisfice” when it comes to marriage partners, they let perfect become the enemy of good.


31 posted on 12/02/2012 9:48:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Good point.

I would add the the overall level of quality has dropped so precipitously that what isn't claimed isn't worth claiming.

32 posted on 12/02/2012 9:54:07 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Early marriage just isn't realistic without an economy that allows average <25 year olds to earn enough to support a family. Many of them can't even support themselves.
33 posted on 12/02/2012 9:55:05 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: pollywog

AMEN!!

We were 18. Working on our 47th year together. It ain’t easy, just as some people think Christianity is supposed to be. It, too, requires faith, trust, honor, and most of all true love.


34 posted on 12/02/2012 9:58:45 AM PST by wizr (Keep the Faith!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Married at 18/19 and will celebrate our 33rd year in the spring!
Kids all married and five grands.
Life is good!


35 posted on 12/02/2012 10:02:06 AM PST by zeaal
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To: SeekAndFind

My husband and I got married in our 30s. Since we were both really shy and professionally focused, there was no way we would have gotten there any faster.

There are advantages and disadvantages to this:

1. Pros
We have known true loneliness and are really grateful for each other. We are unlikely to “trade up” to a different spouse.
We don’t care about keeping up with what’s sexy and hip. We can raise our kids to be Godly and “square” without regret.
We have been to expensive hotels, concerts, traveled overseas, etc., so we don’t feel deprived if we skip these things to provide for our kids.
2. Cons
We don’t have as much energy.
We don’t have any help from grandparents, because they are frail or dead. And the kids only knew my husband’s parents, not mine.
All the first cousins are older than our kids.
We never knew each other when we were young and hot.
We were so self-sufficient that it is hard to build teamwork, instead of just dividing up chores or goals and doing them alone.
We wanted more kids, but my fertility ended.

I’d like my kids to marry younger than we did, so they don’t have some of the drawbacks we had. But it will be hard for them to find mature spouses with their priorities straight (God, family). I think the countries where parents help winnow out the bad prospects and introduce their kids to good ones are better than here, where people just go to bars and hope for the best.


36 posted on 12/02/2012 10:05:11 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: latina4dubya

Haha yes. I think it depends on the person but once settled there is no question about it.


37 posted on 12/02/2012 10:05:26 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: GOPsterinMA

You see someone in the 30s who has never been married nor in a long-term relationship, and you will think “What’s wrong with them?” It’s human nature to think that way. Maybe they were too “career-driven”, or just a bad partner who was incapable of sustaining long-term relationships.

As a result, I believe that makes it very difficult to develop complete trust in such people, that is necessary for a successful marriage.

I used to believe that it was good to wait and “figure yourself out” before settling down, but now, not so much, and it certainly not what I will advise my kids to do.

My advice now is, find someone good enough as soon as possible and make it work.


38 posted on 12/02/2012 10:08:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: LibertarianLiz

I think this pattern is the norm now. Not ideal but the norm.

Most men want a women who can help pay the bills so their holding out longer to find one.

Also the family laws are so anti-male that many men are shy about getting married.

Our culture is anti-marriage in subtle ways and this is the result.


39 posted on 12/02/2012 10:09:53 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: SeekAndFind

Furthermore, let’s stop this idea of “meeting your soulmate.”

You don’t “meet” them, you “make” them.


40 posted on 12/02/2012 10:09:53 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

The “evangelical” church I went to in high school and college extolled these four points (mentioned in the quoted article) for “single people” (both men and women) —

– Learning to love herself and accept her self-worth
– Time to become her own person
– Benefit of knowing who she is
– Experiencing life as her own complete person

As a result, there was very little serious courtship and marriage going on within that age cohort (late teens/early to mid twenties). The “Evangelical Christian” culture of the time (many of its books were sold at our local college Bible bookstore) placed heavy emphasis on “the gift of singleness” and only very light mention, if any, on the importance of marriage and child rearing. This was the late 1970s - early 1980s.


41 posted on 12/02/2012 10:13:45 AM PST by thecodont
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To: SeekAndFind

In order for this to be feasible, the education system must be dismantled and children should be taught to be mature and responsible, and educated and trained well enough to be able to support themselves. Now we have people being students until they are in their thirties, and when they finally graduate, they still can’t make a living.


42 posted on 12/02/2012 10:19:05 AM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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It’s tough today. There aren’t as many good people out there and there hasn’t been for 25 or 30 years. If you don’t find that person by 25 or maybe 30 it gets real tough, real fast.

I was one of the ones who tried but what I mostly ran into was crap. It’s easy to be down on yourself till I realized that for most women today in the first half of their lives, for all the talk and bluster, they wouldn’t have married most men of their grandfather’s or great-grandfathers generation, simply because they wouldn’t have considered them men, or someone worth pursuing.

Most today are self-centered financial predators looking for the best deal they can get. Their vision of what a man should be is so far from the mark that it’s not worth pursuing. There’s only so much baggage and screwed up ideas in a person that you can tolerate before you have to say ‘no deal.’ I find most potentially interesting women today downright offensive.

And seeing some of the guys today, I can’t imagine how hard it must be for the women too. All I can say is if you find the special person, latch on and don’t let go.


43 posted on 12/02/2012 10:24:39 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: clamper1797
A man doesn't really know true happiness until he's married!! Of course, by then it's too late
44 posted on 12/02/2012 10:30:26 AM PST by southern rock
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife has now gotten to that age where she needs to be ironed.


45 posted on 12/02/2012 10:35:13 AM PST by Patriot365
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I have had 5 children from my age of 30-49.

My feelings are it's a mixed bag. When younger you are more distracted by basically everything.

Older...more experience and hopefully more stable but the big one...you die earlier and likely have less energy

But you can make up for the energy by communicating with them to train them and enrich them how to grow up to be men or ladies and today prepare them for the inevitable politics by other means that lies ahead. I spend all my free time with my last 3 or their mommy

Myself...I would have never been faithful to women as a young man. I realized that and put it off.

But it does have a price.

For someone like me, marrying early 30s with a mid 20s gal is about perfect.

But to each his own.

My folks married at 23 and for life faithfully.

My grandparents and so forth even younger and most often stayed true.

Today is a different and in many ways worse world.

Beware.

46 posted on 12/02/2012 10:35:30 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: SeekAndFind

For a lot of couples (not all) “happily married” is oxymoronic


47 posted on 12/02/2012 10:35:38 AM PST by clamper1797 (I mourn for the America I grew up in ..fought for ..and loved ..July 4 1776- June 28 2012)
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This article appears to be based on the assumption that we are still living in a sane America, with the same attitudes and values that we had in the 50s or 60s, or heck, even the 80s. But we don't. We live in a society that has been getting sexual hedonism pumped into everyone's brains via Hollywood and now our public schools to the point where it would be difficult for a young man to find a woman who doesn't have 20 sexual partners by age 25. Add to that the ridiculousness of divorce and family law in this country and any man would have to be insane to get married in this toxic environment.

All you people bragging about your 40-50 year marriages, congratulations, but you got married in an America that doesn't exist anymore. Many of you are still trying to push the same standards for behavior, castigating young men for not "committing". Well, marriage in this day and age is not a commitment for a man - it is a game of Russian Roulette. Women can walk away any time for no reason, taking all the money and the kids while the state forces the ex-husband to fork over his assets at gunpoint, and those women are constantly encouraged to do so by our corrupt Lifetime/Oprah/porn culture. Women in this country are largely unmarriageable. Plenty of you will whine and cry about that statement, but it is true, and any man who fails to see that will pay the price.
48 posted on 12/02/2012 10:39:06 AM PST by fr_freak
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to the point where it would be difficult for a young man to find a woman who doesn't have 20 sexual partners by age 25.

Or to the point where it would be difficult for a young woman to find a man who hasn't had 20 sexual partners by age 25.

49 posted on 12/02/2012 10:41:53 AM PST by thecodont
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Societies fail if they believe in a delayed marriage. If the US falls into this trap it will go the way of Europe - lower birthrates, increased immigration, and increased Islamization.


50 posted on 12/02/2012 10:46:15 AM PST by impimp
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