The Sandy Hook Murders: What To Do?

PowerLine ^ | 15 December 2012 | John Hinderaker

[zeestephen]

If we are going to take mass shootings as an occasion to infringe constitutional rights, the most effective place to start would be the FIRST Amendment [Freedom of the Press].

[HiTech RedNeck]

Ah, you should ask our sister Eleutheria about that. She got donated a lush banquet a few weeks ago. I’m Christian, but I have to give modern Judaism kudos for its cooking.

[upstatenyrepublican]

At least arm the principal. There should be stun guns available too. Actually maybe all schools should have one or two paid armed guards. If that shooter was breaking into the school, the armed guards would have shot him before he hurt anyone else.
As I retired teacher, I think a stun gun locked in a file cabinet might have kept the shooter away from my students. Gun control only disarms the law abiding people. How about banning violent video games. Children imitate what they see.
The more criminals who are immediately killed the less copy cats will arise. All the publicity is just priming the next crazy killer for his day of fame. I blame the news media for this too.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You got a crush on teacher, you got a crush on teacher....

[no-to-illegals]

I understand your point but every-time one of these types of mass murder takes place the liberals and the lame-stream drive bys put gun owners on defense. Each of us knows the liberals and drive bys have no interest in having an actual discussion, therefore (imho) this matter must be handled at the local levels, and pushed past the liberals and drive bys at the local levels. A national debate is useless. Liberals and the drive bys will continue with their lies and box up anyone with the truth of what is necessary to give the innocent a fighting chance. The debate has to be at the local level and actions taken must be actions at the local level. Bulldoze over the liberals at the local level. The map from the past election says the local level is overwhelmingly filled with red or common sense. If the blue areas of the map from the past election do not want to protect their children, it will be their decision. Work from the local level to obtain the protection (imho).

[djf]

Looks like it. I’ve never seen that sort of split stock, though.

The wood cover over the barrel at the front of the receiver looks like military issue. I have a WWII Saginaw that looks almost identical.

[RandallFlagg]

Actually maybe all schools should have one or two paid armed guards.

They wouldn't have to pay me to do it. I'm going to go ask to volunteer on my days off at the elementary school down the street Monday morning.
They'll likely say, "No," but I'm still going to offer.

[Hardraade]

Looks like an ag3 or one of the Israeli equivalents.

[wastoute]

Or, I won’t trust a politician with my vote if he doesn’t trust me with my gun!

[ransacked]

Yes, psychotropic drugs and their side effects are a huge problem. But also, we should in no way give access to guns to the autistic, mentally challenged, or felons. In addition, you ever committ a crime with a gun - you’re toast. Put away for a minimum of at least 25 years with no parole.

[wastoute]

The journalists know their 24/7 coverage will fuel the next shooting which is why they do it. Like I sai the other day, they had no problem ignoring Benghazi when it suited them.

[wtc911]

Yep. M! carbine.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Watch what you ask for, as so many “crimes with guns” are paper offenses, not actions by which anybody had been threatened with harm let alone harmed.

[MrNeutron1962]

Looks like it.

[djf]

One of my favorite rifles.

They’re just fun, y’know!

Used to be alot cheaper to shoot, though.

[SpaceBar]

Actually what we need is immediate and drastic... politician control. Thorough background checks, a five day waiting period before they can spout off their stupid mouths, and a three comment magazine limit.

[wtc911]

Agree — a classic. I see one or two every so often out at the range....just looks like fun. They used to advertise them in the back of American Rifleman for some absurdly low number (1960s). My mom wouldn’t let me get one.

[blu]

As I retired teacher, I think a stun gun locked in a file cabinet might have kept the shooter away from my students.

While your idea is sound, the gun should be kept on-body. How long does it take to find the key and get to the file cabinet? What if the shooter is between you and the file cabinet? On-body carry, done correctly (namely, a retention strap-I think that's what it's called-I don't use one) would be the way to go.

Also, a stun gun requires a closer proximity than a pistol. Thinking from the bad guy's head "Oh, stun gun. First target chosen" as opposed to "holy crap, Batman, that teacher's got a gun!"

[wtc911]

Images of American Rifleman ads from 1965.

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Unbelievable prices - through the mail - no background check.

[djf]

One of my .22’s has J. C. Penney stamped into the barrel, from back when you could walk into the store and buy one...

Think that Marlin went for about $29.99 at the time.

[Smokin' Joe]

But also, we should in no way give access to guns to the autistic, mentally challenged, or felons.

Access wasn't given, it was taken over his mom's dead body. Maybe she said that once too often...

Regardless, one cannot rely on being able to keep arms out of the hands of the criminally bent nor the insane. Only an active defense will stop this sort of attack (or the shooter runs out of ammo/targets). If the defense succeeds in ramping up the probability that the attack will be completely unsuccessful, these people will find another way and place to express their problems.