Posted on 12/16/2012 1:17:28 AM PST by zeestephen
If we are going to take mass shootings as an occasion to infringe constitutional rights, the most effective place to start would be the FIRST Amendment [Freedom of the Press].
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yes it is a 30 carbine.
In Israel, the parents must volunteer every so often and takes turns guarding their child’s school - armed with UZI’s and do perimeter patrols so the free loving Palestinians don’t commit acts of terror on what otherwise would be a “soft” target.
I think we have enough former-retired military personnel - retired police officers - and other “qualified” parents in each school district that can cover this.
You have a concealed carry permit - legally own your handgun - get some police firearms training from one of the local LE instructors for liability - and post them in the school. The only purpose of these people: Stop an Active Shooter.
May never happen in your school - but once it is hardened by experieced personnel - they will go somewhere else.
2nd Requirement: (and most of you won’t like this) Police Departments are going to have to profile and come up with a list of wacko’s that may pose a threat - basic human intelligence requirement - may not ID the actual threat - but the list may serve as a early warning indicator.
Just saying from an experience Anti-Terrorism Officer with 4 tours in Iraq and qualified MP Captain - who also served with Blackwater and still in the Intelligence community fighting global terrorists...
I agree 100% with what you said, plus this:
SSRI type drugs make people highly susceptible to hypnotic suggestion.
Drug them up; wind them up with suggestive counseling; aim them at soft targets; turn them loose with one trigger word, or sound, or image.
Are there any good links about the 60’s effort to remove these institutions?
The adopted son of a local lawyer was allowed by his mother to keep knives and chainsaws in his room. He was 17. Because of his violent and anti-socia behavior he was being visited regularly in the home by a social worker. I’m not going to describe the tragedy that ensued but - he also was goth. He’s now serving life in prison but since he was a minor and the supremes just spoke on that, I expect he’ll get out soon.
Recall that some people regard the shooter Nidal Hasan as insane rather than a terrorist. I don't doubt Hasan is insane, as you have to be mentally disturbed to be a muslim; but, that does not refute his terrorist activities & sympathies.
Such a restriction on the media would require they evaluate every murder to determine if it might be the acts of a criminal, a terrorist, or an insane person. The media is not qualified to make such a determination. Their job, as poorly as they do it now, would be immeasurably harder & prone to frequent error.
Fleeing shooters would benefit from not having their picture immediately on the news, aiding their getaway.
Would the survivors, family, & others involved be silenced? Not likely or enforceable. The Net would reveal all the info the media is prohibited from reporting before restrictive authorities could react.
This idea is as unworkable as it is unconstitutional. And what parent would choose to remain ignorant when such an atrocity has occurred nearby?
Arm the school staff and/or provide armed, capable security guards. This is the only way lives may be saved.
Psychiatry and psychology are guilty of malfeasance and should never be in charge of deciding what constitutes ‘mental illness’.
It’s too easy find “experts” in these inexact sciences. Most are just glorified amateurs who’d have no qualms in scrutinizing the wrong people out of the need to err on the side of caution.
From what I can tell, pepper spray is completely legal in Connecticut. No match for a handgun, but better than lying down and waiting to be shot.
I'm wondering what the homicide total for liberal cities like Detroit, Chicago and Philadelphia was for this weekend. I doubt we'll hear, because it's not news, it's just a typical weekend.
Is it the .30 that catches your eye, the pair of 36s, or all three?
That’s an idea - installing Cap Stun/ Pepper Spray above the entrances to each classroom - and the building itself - so if a shooter did make it through the doors - they go off - spraying the intruder...then again - I don’t know how effective they are if a NBC Mask and Filter combo is against that agent...I’ve used it in L.E. against people not wearing any masks - and been subject to a choking agent in the Army and L.E. with and without a mask...I’m thinking that a mask would be effective against such a deterrent. A person can train and work themselves through it — we had to in the police academy...
I am right there with you. Grand Theft Auto made its debut around 15 or so years ago. Video games were becoming increasingly violent.
My daughter was about 4-5 and had older cousins who always had the latest video games. Imagine my shock and horror when I went to pick her up at grandmoms on day. She loved those insipid Barney videos. But when I found her in front of a set with Grand Theft Auto I HIT THE ROOF!!! I have never had those in my home..and thank goodness my child never caught the gaming bug.
These need to be addressed. When I was growing up, it was pinball machines...and you DO get a rush on each and every “score”. Imagine the same in any mall or home gallery. I know, I used to use the rifle ones with the light sights. You get a rush. I believe its the same rush a gambler gets on a slot machine.
Now imagine the detailed bloody imagery of the video games. To say they are graphic is an understatement. And the targets are no longer space invaders..they are humans. THe kids become detached from reality while playig these hour after hour on end. It isn’t a stretch to see a connection.
I’ve said before, guns have been around forever..these violent games..20-25 years tops. If the authorities want to check out a common theme, check there first.
And then move on to “Big gansta rap” and Big “Hip hop”. Listen to those words, look at those videos glorifying gangster life, make lots of money, get lots of women. That crap has only been around for about 20-25 yers, too. Get those parental controls out and block that crap from coming into the home. Better yet, get it off the air.
BUT THE GUARDS ARE NOT ARMED !!!!
None of these mass murders should have happened. In every case....someone noticed erratic behavior.
He had a Bushmaster with two 30 round magazines taped together (along with two handguns). Like you said seems like a stun gun (especially one locked away) would not have been effective. How well would a minimally trained teacher or principal have done with a concealed gun? Remember in the Sikh temple shooting a forewarned police officer was shot as the first responder. The Sikh shooter was taken down (actually killed himself after being shot) by two officers after one was shot by him. The shooter used a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun. What would be interesting would be a seeing some simulations with typical CCW holders responding to being surprised by a gunman like in Colorado or in this shooting. How well do you think you would do being unprepared?
They should be trained and armed police officers (or the equivalent). At $100,000 (salary and benefits). Total cost per student assuming 250 students - $400/yr or about 3-4% of average per student spend.
We have to look whether lock down is the best choice or dispersal. Our school (gr kind -8) had exit doors in every classroom.
We have 24/7 "live" security systems in our Museums but not our schools?
The same sight today would bring DHS black choppers ans SWAT teams.
Of course the open land on the point was developed into million dollar homes long ago...and those homes were all severely damaged by Sandy...and very few of them had any kind of weapon to stop the looters who came by boat.
***I’ve read headlines describing the shooter as a goth,***
I know some of my wife’s kin is into goth. They are really strange! In their mid to late 30s they should have grown out of it by now, but no, they are deep into it.
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