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Hugo Chavez died 'in the bosom of the Church': Catholic News Agency (CNA)
Catholic news agency ^ | Mar 6, 2013 | Catholic news agency

Posted on 03/08/2013 9:01:51 PM PST by daniel1212

Caracas, Venezuela, Mar 6, 2013 / 12:01 pm (CNA).- A source in Venezuela has revealed to CNA that President Hugo Chavez died “in bosom of the Church” and received spiritual direction and the sacraments in his last days.

In announcing Chavez’s death to the nation on March 5, Vice President Nicolas Maduro said the Venezuelan leader died “clinging to Christ.” The source in Venezuela told CNA that during the last weeks of his life, Chavez requested spiritual direction and asked to receive the sacraments.

Ever since he assumed power in 1999, Chavez butted heads continuously with the Catholic Church over statements by the bishops warning of the risks and excesses of his Socialist agenda. In 2002, Chavez accused the Venezuelan bishops of being a “tumor” for his revolutionary goals and demanded that the Vatican not intervene in the internal affairs of the country.

In recent years, Chavez occasionally took part in the religious services of distinct denominations, but he surprised the press in April 2012 when he showed up at a Catholic church in his hometown of Barinas to attend Holy Week services. He wore a rosary around his neck and prayed for strength to fight his illness. Last July, Chavez made public his request to meet with the Catholic bishops.

After Chavez’s death, the Archdiocese of Caracas, led by Cardinal Jorge Urosa who is currently in Rome for the conclave, sent its condolences

The secretary general of the Bishops’ Conference of Venezuela, Bishop Jesus Gonzalez de Zarate, called for national unity. “At this time let us all put forth our best sentiments,” he said during an interview on Venezuelan television. “Death is not the end of our life,” he added. “Death only opens the way to a life of complete happiness, at the side of God our Father.”


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To: daniel1212

If he genuinely had any religion, it was probably something syncretic along the lines of santeria.


21 posted on 03/08/2013 9:54:29 PM PST by fso301
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

If you were familiar with my typical posting at all, then you would know it is very far from substance-less or uninformed arguments, while the subject of this post is something a traditional RC could post, in objection to it. As seen by their reactions to like funerals:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2327700/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2330377/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2695691/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2327501/posts

As for nothing better to do, it is by and far RCs who can be seen advertising for their church here far more than any other, and when you trumpet an elitist position, then you should not complain when that draws exposure.


22 posted on 03/08/2013 9:56:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: livius
He might have repented; we don’t know.

What Truth could he have repented to? He didn't know The Truth. BTW, did he die poor? Just wondering how deep 'his faith' was.

23 posted on 03/08/2013 9:57:44 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were Catholics, too. Both were altar boys as children.

And then you have Mother Theresa types, but avoiding two extremes, what manner of Christians Rome overall fosters is an issue.

24 posted on 03/08/2013 9:59:14 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Nor did the pope censure him at all in his response, but “the Holy Father cordially imparts his Apostolic Blessing as a pledge of wisdom, comfort and strength in the Lord.”


You won’t believe what that costs in today’s dollars.


25 posted on 03/08/2013 10:01:20 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS "Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to take a hike."-Heinlein)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
God works in mysterious ways ...

Not when it comes to salvation. However, man does and IF they read His Word and still believes what man says.

26 posted on 03/08/2013 10:03:14 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; daniel1212

Ignorant Trolling Disorder - 9/11/12


27 posted on 03/08/2013 10:06:51 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: daniel1212

Obviously some latin american roman catholics are very very delusional..
Hugo was evil incarnate..

Could be a problem in North America as well..


28 posted on 03/08/2013 10:08:52 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: S.O.S121.500

As often said, while Trad. RCs understandably see them as excommunicated, Rome counts and treats them as members in life and in death.

Now it is very late. Have a God night.


29 posted on 03/08/2013 10:09:14 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were Catholics, too. Both were altar boys as children.

Stalin was a Russian Orthodox seminarian before declaring himself an atheist—he later had thousands of priests harassed, imprisoned, or killed. Hitler was baptized Catholic, but fell away in a pretty big way: He had his political party specifically condemned by the Pope and murdered thousands of priests and nuns, and millions of Catholic laymen.

30 posted on 03/08/2013 10:12:31 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: presently no screen name
If I see Hugo in Heaven, I'm going to kick his ass.

Seriously, God's grace is sufficient in Christ but I doubt Hugo's repentance was.

He died full of regret and is in the non smoking section of hell where the blues flames are.

31 posted on 03/08/2013 10:17:51 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: daniel1212

Pretty doubtful he woke up in the bosom of Abraham. It’s more a commentary of the socialist corruption of the church.


32 posted on 03/08/2013 10:38:51 PM PST by lurk
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To: daniel1212
As to the first items as to a Mass said for Hugo Chavez in Caracas, Venezuela, cited from the Guardian (UK), the writer is flat out wrong in suggesting that the Rev. Mr. Jesse Jackson had any role in "officiating" at the Mass. He is not an ordained priest, is not a Catholic and whatever the writer may suppose, he is absolutely unqualified to receive the Eucharist much less to "officiate" at the Mass. In the event that "pastor Alexis Romero Valera" is likewise not a priest and not a Catholic, the same applies to him. Likewise, only a priest should be delivering remarks at the funeral and those remarks should be limited to the hope of those gathered for the Mass that the deceased might someday be admitted to heaven with no assumptions as to that outcome (Pelagianism).

As to Mahmoud Ahmanutjob, he has no role to play whatsoever despite his insolent prediction that the late Venezuelan dictator, among others, will accompany Christ back to earth. Let Ahmanutjob kiss his own coffin.

33 posted on 03/08/2013 11:05:43 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
God works in mysterious ways ...

Indeed, since the leaders are not denying and are even affirming their Faith, let's hope it tempers their actions, limits the damage of their Marxist economic views, and cools their class-hatred.

34 posted on 03/08/2013 11:16:12 PM PST by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Before turning atheist and communist, Josef Stalin was Russian Orthodox and a seminarian in that Church. It would not be surprising if a seminarian had been an altar boy in youth. Stalin was NEVER a Catholic, although the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church are quite close as to sacraments but still separated in several important ways.

I have heard that Hitler was a Catholic altar boy in his youth. He certainly did not die as a public adherent to Catholicism. His life suggests that his access to heaven was no better than Stalin's and for largely similar reasons of mass murder. Hitler also added to a mountain of crimes and sins, death by suicide, putting a gun in his mouth and blowing his brains out.

We Catholics believe that if a person with however vile a track record accepts a grace of final repentance, makes an act of perfect contrition (not out of fear of hell but for simply offending God and thus rejecting His love), then his sins may be forgiven by God. Many of Hitler's public sins were of a sort in which one such sin would excommunicate him latae sententiae. He did not have a lot of time between pulling the trigger and death and he would have been distracted by the pain. God certainly knows as does Hitler.

35 posted on 03/08/2013 11:21:42 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: daniel1212

It is widely known based on history,that death or near death changes many people to believers in the universal God and to seeking the means/path to an eternal existence with God which they seemingly abhorred while breathing in this world. How God deals with such people is God’s choosing.


36 posted on 03/08/2013 11:32:41 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: daniel1212

He went for the light and that familar smell of sulfur. Chavez died in the warm embrace of Satan’s colon.


37 posted on 03/08/2013 11:34:28 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (STERILIZE OBAMA VOTERS)
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To: daniel1212

Wow, that is insane.

He isn’t going to heaven


38 posted on 03/08/2013 11:37:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: daniel1212

Nothing convinces me that, if he had recovered, he would have changed the direction of his life or the nature of his regime.

Only God knows, of course.

I’m sure facing death has a way of focusing your attention on the transcendental. But I don’t see any evidence that he ever thought he was wrong about anything.


39 posted on 03/08/2013 11:49:24 PM PST by marron
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To: Rome2000

What, don’t you wear tracksuits to funerals ? BTW, is that one of Saddam’s progeny (the new Venezuelan dictator, that is) ?


40 posted on 03/08/2013 11:51:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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