Skip to comments.How Immigration Reform Can Pass
Posted on 07/01/2013 8:02:56 PM PDT by fifedom
John Boehner has promised conservatives he won't let any bill lacking support from most Republicans come to a vote. There's a way around this problem: the discharge petition. If 218 members of the House sign one, then it automatically comes to the House floor for a vote. Democrats only have 201 votes, so they'd need seventeen Republicans to join them, plus one for every Democrat who defects. If Boehner wants the bill to pass, he wouldn't want to punish the handful of Republicans who sign a petition.
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Yes, finding 17 traitors in the U.S. House among the GOP segment should be as easy as cutting a cake.
If Boner dumps the Hastert rule, its all over but the cryin’. That’s where we are at with this.
Marky is a left wing fanatic
Heard this one on MSNBC. But who will convince the 17 or so to join Dems on this?? It cant be Ryan. This one seems farfetched.
Only chance to stop the Amnesty bill is for the House not to consider any immigration related bill at all.
Michelle Bachman explained it. ANY House bill no matter if it promises all the border security in the world will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway.
Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives wont vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so then they only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the members of the House.
Tom Tancredo echos what Michelle Bachmann said.
call congress . no bill at all from the House
If this were to happen, it is the end of the GOP. We will have a third party.
Right away SIR!
The shifty eyed Weeper will screw us. Count on it.
My mother gets the New Yorker. I occasionally leaf thru it when I visit her. I wouldn’t use that rag to wipe my butt if that was the only paper around. It’s pure lies and poison.
I don’t think he’ll do it. Anyone associated with a Discharge would be a dead duck. The dems. are aggressively poaching Republican districts. I wouldn’t consider a single one to be ‘safe’ under these circumstances. Piss your voters off, and incentivize them to stay home. Or vote a third (or fourth) party. While the local democrat Machine collects and counts all of the invalid, illegal, spoiled, deceased, provisional, and otherwise bogus votes. Yeah, Mr. Speaker, that’s the ticket!
Blue Slipping is a little known procedure the House can use to kill a bill which originates in the Senate if a Senate bill earmarks appropriations or taxes in its content. It is unconstitutional because that by the Constitution(fund raising or appropriation) is left up to the House. That issue (the $5000 fine to employers who hire Americans over illegals) was brought to the attention to the American people by Texas Senator Ted Cruz by the way. And there might be other “stuff” like it in that 1200 page bill which nobody read.
But it does not necessasarily means the Senate Bill is dead in the water. Once the House sets up its own bill heavy on border security (which the will never be implemented by the executive) both can go back to the Senate and the Senate tosses the questionable provisions out (in”conference”) that bill goes to the executive he signs it and we’re stuck with it.
Frankly If this isn’t stopped dead in the water in the House every Republican that supports this idea deserves and will lose their seat. It’s too a dangerous game they’re playing with this country.
ENOUGH OF THE ONE WORLD SOCIALISM ...BRING BACK SOVEREIGNTY AND SANITY TO OUR COUNTRY .....BRING BACK BELIEF IN GOD ...THIS GOVERNMENT OUT OUR FACE..... OUR RELIGIONS..... AND OUR BEDROOMS..
Chait put it somewhat more delicately:
“there is a lot of pro-immigration
money out there available to support any
Republican facing such a challenge.”
Money doesn’t necessarily buy votes. The slaughter of democrats in 2010 wasn’t because of money.
Hey, I already said I don’t trust Boehner. I’m talking with my rep, I’m going to call and write Boehner too. My rep has heard me loud and clear. WE have to get it through to them that if they abandon the conservative position of no amnesty, that they will split the party. They will have left us, not the other way around. The ball is in our court, call your rep, even if they are leftists, keep pressure on.
You’re dead right on that. Which again begs the question, why does the GOP leadership always stick us in the back. A new conservative party can’t come soon enough.
The vast majority of conservatives I know say that if the House rolls over on amnesty, they are done with the Republican party forever. Now, you may say that these same people will come back and vote GOP. NOT this time! They know amnesty will wreck our country and they are red hot pissed! I have never seen anger as palpable as this. Nothing even comes close.
I agree. “The Fix is in “. The house will appear to have a bill to secure the border. That will go to conference . Amnesty will then be first and then watered down promises of secure borders. Then Boehner will work for a “bipartisan” agreement to pass the bill. He will not have to dump the hastert rule if he secretly backs the discharge petition. Paul RYAN the traitor will be right there to sign up.
Correct on all counts.....unless we can somehow scare enough traitor Republican. politicians. Not likely, but still possible. Forget Ryan & Rubio. They will be paid millions by big business for selling us out.
I see Boehner believes in keeping a dumbed down staff.
True. The (former commerce sec'y) Gutierrez/Chamber of Commerce SuperPAC has likely promised to fund their re-eleciton campaigns and any attack ads against their opponents :(
EVERY Repub Rep up for re-election in 2014 should be put on notice. They either think we won’t remember, or that it won’t matter (as in, their re-election campaigns will be fully funded).
Agreed. I have called three times, the rep's phone person was very helpful, told me he would get my comments to him right away. He also said the rep thought about the issue as I did, it was encouraging.
I sent him a letter, the rep's rep called me today, telling me he moved my letter to the top of list to be read.
If you haven't done this same thing, it's important to do it now. They will have a big meeting on July 10 how to proceed with this issue. Now is the time to pressure, we have less than two weeks to make a firewall around this issue, and will no doubt have to keep pressure on until this travesty of a bill dies.
And do so over and over again
(In)Famous California pol Jesse “Big Daddy” Unruh (in)famously stated that “money is the mother’s milk of politics”. Who am I to disagree with such an illustrious man?