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Family Outraged After Boise Police Officer Shoots and Kills Dog (Barked at Officer)
KTVB ^ | Monday, Oct 21 | Andrea Lutz

Posted on 10/25/2013 5:06:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: xzins

Maybe want to stay friends with the cops; not so much friends with the neighbors.


101 posted on 10/25/2013 8:23:12 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: ozaukeemom

It’s something about the neighbors. I’m surprised that some are not sticking up for them. Said the dog was snarling. I don’t think they like that dog.


102 posted on 10/25/2013 8:26:41 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: ozaukeemom
"Maybe want to stay friends with the cops"

Or maybe they just don't want to end up like the dog.

103 posted on 10/25/2013 8:36:04 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: xzins
Ding...sorry... You get zip for wild baseless speculation, which you've clearly pulled out of your rump....

Once again, if the dog was approaching the one officer in a threatening manner, why did the officer that the dog was allegedly approaching/threatening not shoot the dog?

Why would the officer who was threatened, which the dog was allegedly approaching, not be the one to shoot the dog?

Why would the officer who was not threatened shoot the dog?

LOL !! Lets see ya dance on the head of pin some more....

I give this a 9 on the hooking hoot scale...

104 posted on 10/25/2013 8:45:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bryanw92
I hope his kids didn’t startle him when he got home. Those high-strung cops seem to shoot anything that moves these days (for officer safety, of course).

'Roid rage'll do that.

105 posted on 10/25/2013 8:51:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: aomagrat

Me too.


106 posted on 10/25/2013 9:10:39 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: ElkGroveDan

And how exactly was the dog “about to bite” the officers considering the dog was shot *in the back of the head*?


107 posted on 10/25/2013 9:16:59 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: nickcarraway

I think it is about time the police have to be ordered to follow the same rules of engagement here in the US that our military have to follow. Leave our dogs alone.


108 posted on 10/25/2013 10:40:13 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: nickcarraway

Cops don’t carry mace anymore?


109 posted on 10/26/2013 3:41:40 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: nickcarraway

sooo...

owner lets dog out in front of house without a leash in violation of leash laws...

dog not on leash ( in other words out of owners control ) runs after officers in an aggressive manner...

cops shoot dog..

it is cops fault, not the irresponsible owner..

now i get it...

dogs are not the problem here, egotistical self righteous owners are


110 posted on 10/26/2013 4:46:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Delta 21

Some animals are more equal than others.


111 posted on 10/26/2013 6:08:23 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3083830/posts


112 posted on 10/26/2013 6:30:46 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Arm_Bears

Thanks for the link.

Defund the police. A free and armed people have little use for them.


113 posted on 10/26/2013 6:43:38 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: dragnet2

The article does not say which officer shot the dog. I’m going by the facts presented in the article. Unless you’re reading a different source in addition to this one, then you’re adding to the known facts by those you’ve found someplace or other.

That’s why you owe me 60,000.


114 posted on 10/26/2013 6:54:38 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: nickcarraway

Dogs sense when people have hostile, fearful or unstable energy.. It makes dogs suspicious of them and bark at them.


115 posted on 10/26/2013 7:18:26 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

A dog actually inflicting injury biting is different from a dog that rushes to smell and lick.I’ve been the “victim” of many “licking attacks” and only one bite.The bite was from a dog that no doubt thought it was protecting its home,as I had permission to be there but the dog’s owners ,who were standing right in front of me, didn’t mention there was a dog.The bite was hardly more than a bad pinch,not a vicious attack.I felt bad that the dog(German Shepard) was then abandoned by its owners and killed at the county pound.

As a child I lost a good little dog because she grabbed the leg of a deliveryman who jumped out and immediately rushed towards me and our rural,isolated house after arriving at high speed. He made a great fuss and my parents had the dog killed to satisfy the insurance company.

I despise people like that driver to this day.

It is the attitude to “shoot first,ask questions later” that I got from your original comment that is the mindset that bothers me,regardless of who has that attitude.

One time ,on responding to a “dog running loose” complaint I arrived to find a huge Akita there,but the dog’s manner was so obviously playful and exuberant I felt no fear. Opened my cruiser door and he jumped in and rode quietly until I found out his home and delivered him there.Now many might do the “safe” thing,call animal control and/or shoot the dog. No one can tell me that would have been better. I believe too many people,officers included, are so bound up in “taking charge” and “resolving the situation” they don’t see that remaining calm and not forcing an immediate ending can result in a better outcome for all parties.

And the other thing which has ruined life in the U.S. is the over-abundance of lawyers ready to file suit on behalf of claims that formerly would have been refused,and still ought to be refused and ridiculed.


116 posted on 10/26/2013 8:02:59 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: xzins

You’re an idiot...

Take care.


117 posted on 10/26/2013 9:13:42 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Altariel; xzins
And how exactly was the dog “about to bite” the officers considering the dog was shot *in the back of the head*?

Mr. zin explained all this!

He said the cops separated because this is the tactical way things are done, and the cop that was allegedly threatened decided not to shoot the dog, however the cop that was not threatened shot the dog. But the cop that shot the dog in the back of the head like the article said, did not actually shoot the dog in the back of the head, but actually shot the dog on the rear side of the head...

See, perfectly clear...xzins said so!

118 posted on 10/26/2013 9:22:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: hoosierham

The problem is two fold. I agree that in the vast majority of cases dog approaches are sniff and maybe lick. Often recognition is high in a neighborhood because you recognize a local dog, see that it is tagged, and most of the time of a non-aggressive breed exhibiting friendly behavior.

No problem with these at all. But there are some warning signs that should not be ignored. Dog territories are usually limited to 2-3 house lengths away from where they live. If a dog is stalking you (and maybe your dog), starting and stopping instead of coming ahead, greater than that distance, and using cover to close the gap, it is a warning sign.

This is a technique also used by coyotes when they stalk. They are never friendly to people with dogs, because to them, dogs are food. To people alone, it usually means you are in their territory, but they still don’t want to confront you.

Getting any deeper than that, other than if they ignore pepper spray, can get complicated. The ASPCA has quite a laundry list of aggressive dog behaviors.

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/aggression-dogs

The bottom line is that a lot of judgment goes into what to do if faced with a dog. I will palm pepper spray soon, but I generally won’t draw down on a dog with a gun unless it is very obvious that it is hostile and about to attack.


119 posted on 10/26/2013 10:26:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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“She was walking by and went 'ruff ruff' just a couple of little ruffs and that's when she was walking by she didn't jump at him or anything,” explained Adams. Other witnesses to the incident described the dog as barking and snarling at officers as it approached them. Stropkai tells KTVB she let Kita outside to use the bathroom and she was in her sight when the officer made an instant decision. “In about five seconds he pulled his weapon, asked whose dog it was, and shot her in the back of the head,” said Stropkai. Stropkai explains her two-year-old son Hayden was also witness to the shooting. “Hayden was outside, about two feet away from me,” said Stropkai's mother, Michelle Pierott. McClure said the two officers were standing in a parking lot when one decided to fire a single shot at the dog when it came within three feet of them. Kita, a mixed breed, was hit and died at the scene.

Read it again. It doesn't say which officer shot the dog. It doesn't even say that "one felt threatened and that one shot the dog". It says the dog threatened "them" and one of the officers shot the dog.

Which officer was threatened: A or B or Both?

Which officer shot the dog: A or B?

Apparently, even an idiot can get your 60,000 bucks.

dragnet wrote to Mr Zin...(my name by the way, so thank you): You’re an idiot... Take care.

120 posted on 10/26/2013 2:55:22 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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