Skip to comments.Ancient DNA Links Native Americans to Europe
Posted on 11/07/2013 8:52:57 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
SANTA FEWhere did the first Americans come from? Most researchers agree that Paleoamericans moved across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia sometime before 15,000 years ago, suggesting roots in East Asia. But just where the source populations arose has long been a mystery.
Now comes a surprising twist, from the complete nuclear genome of a Siberian boy who died 24,000 years agothe oldest complete genome of a modern human sequenced to date. His DNA shows close ties to those of today's Native Americans. Yet he apparently descended not from East Asians, but from people who had lived in Europe or western Asia. The finding suggests that about a third of the ancestry of today's Native Americans can be traced to "western Eurasia," with the other two-thirds coming from eastern Asia, according to a talk at a meeting* here by ancient DNA expert Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen. It also implies that traces of European ancestry previously detected in modern Native Americans do not come solely from mixing with European colonists, as most scientists had assumed, but have much deeper roots.
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There is an ancient tribe in Japan that has very Caucasian features. Did they come from the west or did they evolve their “unasian” looks independently? How knows.
One theory is that this is the people that made their way to America, probably in boats.
Maybe they sailed there in Noah’s Ark ...with all the Kinds
Anyone ever consider that DNA links Europe to Native Americans and they have it backwards? Native Americans didn’t come from Europe. Europeans came from Native Americans. This has been my contention all along. They are doing history backwards.
Grant Money is forever. All you need is an opinion. If you differ from your buddy scientist..all the better...you both get Grant Money.
The archaeological record in Europe is 10x as old as that of North America.
Cool idea, though
We’re all very different people. We’re not Watusi. We’re not Spartans. We’re Americans, with a capital ‘A’, huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We’re the underdog. We’re mutts!
Western Asia is Turkey.
Sounds like a lot of Istanbul to me.
Who really cares? Will this sublimate American Indians now into that hated class of European Origin White Anglo Saxons?
Will it take away their special sovereignty that allows them to steal from Americans via their gambling reservations?
Will it change their preferential treatment in most any government consideration?
[I am 1/16 Cherokee, BTW. but that’s not good enough to be ‘made’ in the Indian Mafia]
They are the Ainu, the original inhabitants of Japan and they probably descended from siberians. Many of the original Ainu had red hair. The population is now largely mixed with the East Asians who subsequently settled Japan.
That’s my thought as well. Eastern Native Americans look a lot like Europeans while Western Native Americans appear more Oriental. They originated here.
They have ignore North Ameica for years because they simply accepted the theory that this country and continent were settled from without. I never accepted that premise and I don’t accept it now. Archaeology in North America has been lacking and still, as of now, we are the undiscovered country. Just watch. There are more than a few surprises awaiting those who accept theories with no basis in fact and the Bering Bridge was one of them.
Don’t tell ME you didn’t cry when Ol’ Yeller died.
1/32nd was good enough for the Mashantucket Pequots of Connecticut and they would still give you a preference in hiring and promotion if you went to work for them. If they had’n’t screwed to pooch and driven Foxwoods Casino into the ground so nobody is getting hired or promoted.
Actually a whole lot of Amerinds have french in them - the voyageurs did not bring their wives along unlike he English. Made the cultures get along much better. French were pretty sturdy folk back then. Still are in Quebec. See NHL.
I'm glad you added that "probably in boats" part - don't think they had direct flights back then.............
Archeologists have finally revealed what Asians of European ancestry who later migrated to America looked like!
As opposed to coming through Alaska and Canada through a gap in the continental glaciers, as we were all taught.
If there were European-like people in eastern Asia in prehistoric times and a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska, as many suppose, they could have used this land bridge to migrate into the Americas as did those of Mongolian background. This may be more plausible than the suggestion that western Europeans, possibly like the Basques, migrated across the Atlantic via small boats.
While there is little doubt neat things are concealed near—or beneath—the Bering Strait, they’re pretty much inaccessible.
I’ve been there, and can assure you nobody’s going to find much evidence of anything other than fog and ice for quite a long time.
I’m sure that a lot of Mormons were disappointed to find out that this study didn’t find any Middle Eastern ancestry among American Indians (since they make the ridiculous claim that American Indians are actually one of the “Lost Tribes” or somesuch)!
According to a book I’m currently reading (Invented Knowledge by Ronald Fritze), the Clovis culture idea that most paleontologists and those sorts of people believe (the first Americans came over about 12000-14000 years ago) is false. Bone fragments indicate earlier people by thousands of years.
Since the oldest human skeletons from Europe predate the oldest from the Americas by tens of thousands of years, this doesn't sound very plausible.
So are Indians that have blond hair and blue eyes offended by the team name Redskins?
You’re right, politically this is irrelevant. I posted it because it was interesting, not because I thought that this information would help eliminate all of the Federal perks that Indians get.
You are speaking of the Ainu who were the original inhabitants of Japan before the invasions from China over two milenia ago. Yes they were/are caucasians..
I know - I was just being a smart-ass.......
when my siblings and I used to ask our parents “where were we from” my dad would say “we are all mongrels”
It’s more plausible than we all showed up from Africa one day when Africa hasn’t yet fully evolved as of one second ago.
Has there ever been a theory accepted as fact for years that has not had to be ‘rethought’?
There is no such thing as a “native American”.
Why did Constantinople get the works?
The smart ones left millennia ago; only the morons and Democrat-equivs stayed in Africa.
Yeah, they were Vikings.
Conservapedia doesn’t give much information but does indicate that the Ainu predate the Jomon period. Who knows?
Can’t say that. I got beat up on FR, awhile back, for suggesting something similar.
Hmmm, oddly enough, most everything I've run across on the subject indicates Jomon as precursors of the Ainu but like you say, who knows. There may be some political and/or cultural issues involved as well.
Excellent point!!! I marvel at the range of knowledge I find on FR. Been around for a while but have noticed a general change in the level of discourse. Much briefer and much more crude and base. Kinda like our society.
Do you actually expect anything above a third grade level from a guy with my screen name