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Ready ... aim ... point ... talk - Gun at meeting reportedly rattles foreign delegates
The Times Union of Albany, NY ^ | 10:47 pm, Sunday, January 5, 2014 | James M. Odato

Posted on 01/06/2014 6:08:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster

Jerome M. Hauer, Gov. Andrew Cuomo's director of homeland security, took out his handgun and used the laser sighting device attached to the barrel as a pointer in a presentation to a foreign delegation, according to public officials. It happened Oct. 24 in Albany at the highly secure state emergency operations center below State Police headquarters.

These officials, one of whom claimed to be an eyewitness, said that three Swedish emergency managers in the delegation were rattled when the gun's laser tracked across one of their heads before Hauer found the map of New York, at which he wanted to point.

Hauer, commissioner of the Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Services, was disabled by a stroke a few years ago and can be unsteady. He isn't a law enforcement official. He carries the loaded 9-millimeter Glock in a holster into state buildings, an apparent violation of state law barring state employees from bringing weapons to the workplace, several witnesses say.

The incident with the Swedish delegation occurred during a two-hour briefing at the operations center concerning the state's response to Superstorm Sandy, according to one of the officials.

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To: firebrand; rmlew

Ping.


21 posted on 01/06/2014 6:45:27 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: FreedomPoster

Jesus. He tracked a man’s forehead. WTF.


22 posted on 01/06/2014 6:46:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Dahoser

If he had more than seven rounds in the magazine, pointing that gun at that Swede’s head would have been really unsafe.


23 posted on 01/06/2014 6:49:19 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: FreedomPoster

This is stupid on so many levels.


24 posted on 01/06/2014 6:49:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: grobdriver
I never did like laser pointers. I always have, and always will us a long pointy stick.

Agree. I have given lots of presentations using PPT slides. Hate laser pointers. Always carried a collapsible pointer.

That said, a good presenter should rarely have to use the pointer. Face the audience and talk with the slide behind you. Shows you at least know the material. And forget the cutsy animations.

25 posted on 01/06/2014 6:50:27 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

My rangemaster just laughs when someone comes in with one.

He recommends what he carries, its just a straight narrow bar that runs the length of the barrel, top of the gun. He sights down the edge of it, so simple and fast I can’t believe they aren’t more popular.

He holds the tightest patterns you have ever seen.


26 posted on 01/06/2014 6:53:51 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: grobdriver
Pointy Stick ? And what if the Presenter chooses to use a Pomegranite ???

(Obligatory Monty Python Reference)

27 posted on 01/06/2014 6:55:27 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: knarf

/facepalm

famous last words meets instant karma...


28 posted on 01/06/2014 7:09:05 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Abathar

“He recommends what he carries, its just a straight narrow bar that runs the length of the barrel, top of the gun. He sights down the edge of it, so simple and fast I can’t believe they aren’t more popular.”

That was recommended in a gun mag about 30 years ago so I tried it on my Dan Wesson using thin strip of white tape along the barrel rib. Worked pretty well except the tape kept getting rubbed off.


29 posted on 01/06/2014 7:09:06 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: FreedomPoster

This is What Happens to a Disarmed Populace: They Arm Themselves – Mexican Self-Defense Edition

By Robert Farago on January 5, 2014

When Uncle Sam bitched and moaned about the “iron river” of illegal guns heading south from US gun stores to arm Mexico’s cartels, TTAG called bullsh*t. For one thing, the cartels have hundreds of thousands of guns from decades of “legal” arms sales to South American governments, mostly from the United States. It’s called seepage or, if you prefer, U.S. taxpayer donations. For another, Fast and Furious, wherein the feds enabled the very thing that they were bitching and moaning about. And lastly, Mexicans need guns! To defend themselves against the cartels, corrupt cops and “rogue” government troops. Mexicans don’t have an uninfringable right to keep and bear arms, so they can’t tool-up legally. So . . . they tool-up illegally. Given mass murder of innocents, why wouldn’t they? Wouldn’t you? Make the jump for borderlandbeat.com info on the burgeoning “self-defense” movement of . . . wait for it . . . citizen militias . . .

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/


30 posted on 01/06/2014 7:09:27 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

The key is in the development of the slide. Slides should be kept simple and easily visual with limited information so that a speaker can effortlessly refer to a point on the slide with everyone knowing what part to look at. Slides with a lot of writing on them are discouraged. You do not want your audience to be lost in the slide while you are speaking. The speaker should always be the center of focus.


31 posted on 01/06/2014 7:13:07 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

“Jerome M. Hauer, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s director of homeland security”?..........

That says a lot right there.


32 posted on 01/06/2014 7:25:08 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Hoodat

That works for most subjects, but certain technical subjects require a large amount of info to make sense. Spreading out that info for 2-3 slides makes the presentation incoherent.

Also, laser pointers are wonderful for highlighting/tracing schematics for the electronically impaired.

Over use of a laser pointer, like most things, defeats their purpose, IMO.

I definitely agree that the speaker is the prime attraction, not the slides. The slides should remind the audience (when later reviewed) of what the speaker said. I know some that use the slides as the primary source - and I HATE delivering their presentations.


33 posted on 01/06/2014 7:46:09 AM PST by MortMan ("Marriage" as a legal concept is the state piggy backing on the Church.)
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To: Haiku Guy
Your point is well made.
Red dot lighted on forehead
is grounds for pink slip.
34 posted on 01/06/2014 7:55:58 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

If he removed the laser, reholstered the gun, and then proceeded to used the targeting laser as a laser pointer, then I wouldn’t really have a problem with it (other than the whole liberal nut job with a loaded weapon in a place where the proletariat would be shot on sight for carrying thing). IMO that just falls into the category of using what you have on hand. But using the loaded gun itself as a laser pointer just screams, “As you can see from this map, we deployed our disaster response teams here [bang], here [bang], here [bang], and along the highway here [bang bang bang bang *click]. Oh, excuse me, I need to reload. Now, where was I? Oh, right. We put SWAT teams in these neighborhoods here [bang bang bang]...”

On the bright side, that would make it easier to see exactly where on the map he was indicating! /sarc


35 posted on 01/06/2014 8:06:58 AM PST by lcms rev
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To: Hoodat

Using the one on a handgun, though, does bring a new meaning to the term “bullet points” in a presentation.


36 posted on 01/06/2014 8:06:58 AM PST by Bob
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To: Little Pig

“I’m really starting to get onboard with the “liberalism is a mental illness” notion”

Explained in my profile...you will “get it”.


37 posted on 01/06/2014 8:08:37 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
"What is the “in favor” method of pointing at a ppt slide?"

A telescoping pointer in small venues. A cursor in large venues.

Bullet holes using tracer rounds in the screen for NY State officials.

38 posted on 01/06/2014 8:17:05 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: grobdriver
"I always have, and always will us a long pointy stick. "

Whacking the screen with a laser doesn't have the same effect.

39 posted on 01/06/2014 8:19:23 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: NewHampshireDuo
"That said, a good presenter should rarely have to use the pointer"

Mostly to be used during the questions session as the info on a previously used slide is used as a discussion item.

40 posted on 01/06/2014 8:22:41 AM PST by Paladin2
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