Skip to comments.Shooter's Parents Sped to Try to Stop Him
Posted on 05/26/2014 3:09:55 AM PDT by Enterprise
"When Elliot Rodger's parents realized just how dangerous their disturbed son was, they made a desperate attempt to try to stop him. They received a copy of his 141-page manifesto and saw a YouTube video outlining his plans for his "Day of Retribution" on Friday night and called 911 before rushing to Santa Barbara in separate cars, a family friend tells the New York Daily News. They heard about the shooting spree while they were on their way. "They were hoping against hope," the friend says. "They are in inconceivable pain."
"He had been in therapy since childhood, but turned his back on mental health care when he turned 18. He had no criminal history, never explicitly threatened others, and even when his worried parents requested police check on him, deputies found no reason to place him in an involuntary psychiatric hold."
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Don’t blame the madmen. Blame the guns.
Pretty much says it all.
Is this the story the parents are going to go by now? I guess it took a little time to agree on one.
So, their lawyer has now figured out that instead of trying to appease Gun-Grabbers that don’t have legal stake in this, he/they should have been preparing for the onslaught of negligence lawsuits in identifying the son as a high-risk to the authorities.
My guess is you won’t find any 911 tapes or transcripts or records of calls to police, etc. before that day when they found his ‘manifesto.’
The parents must have talked to lawyers, and this is was they are saying in an attempt to avoid lawsuits.
His dad sells pictures of women’s butts. One of those artsy fartsy types.
Santa Barbara is a liberal area. The sharks smell blood.
Actually, the contact the Sheriff’s Office made was a month ago. And, obviously, the assessment of the deputies at that time was correct. I’d like more details about this latest call from the parents. It’d be interesting to know exactly what they conveyed to law enforcement.
I though I read where his dad also worked for a violet video game company. . . .
I haven’t read that so far. A lot of information is still percolating.
Got this from DRUDGE.
Left to his or her own demise......and sadly Innocent others as well.
In all these cases at this turning point they are allowed to be trusted to take thier meds on thier own refuse mental health help and be unleashed onto society because of the mental health FAILURE constructed by the government. At the age of 18 they should be automatically infirmed and re evaluated before being set free on thier own
The second unit usually goes out and shoots things like establishing shots, location pieces, stuff like that.
And, if I’m not mistaken, second unit directors do shots that don’t involve the principle actors; i.e. the “big” names.
This is the fruit of CA values.
The father was into porn art...the mother into desperate housewives.
They taught their son terrible values about women. This is in no way the NRA’s fault.
As a rule, that’s correct. For a show that’s shot mostly on stage, though, the principles may get flown to location to do exteriors, and the second unit will shoot those.
Essentially, they do whatever the director foists off on them.
And that ‘therapy’ told him he was as normal as anyone so as not to stigmatize him...
Which was no therapy at all. And it is solely the responsibility of liberals that the APA was reduced to a behavorial justification department of the federal govt. They closed institutions in the name of ‘rights’, reworded long established facts and made their problems simply vanish with psychotropic drugs.
Except now we see they didn’t. It is only a miracle from God that this does not happen dozens of times daily.
More like terrible values about humans. The first three victims were young men.
“More like terrible values about humans. The first three victims were young men.”
Victims of the Entitlement War (this freak felt society owed him blonde girlfriends to amuse him); RIP.
The thing that’s throwing me at the moment is this story of becoming aware of his final manifesto, calling 911, and frantically driving to Santa Barbara, then hearing about the violence on the way, but not knowing their kid was involved. Whereupon, they did what?
Santa Barbara’s an hour and a half north of the SF valley, which makes it kind of likely that if they actually made the call, it was during the time the incident was taking place.
And I’m confused about why you’d start to drive up there to prevent a mass murder, hear that there was one, and not know that your kid was involved.
Maybe it all makes sense when you diagram it... at the moment I’m having trouble grasping how it played out.
Where did he get the guns? Who gave them to him?
A gallon of gas can kill
A car can kill
A lead pipe can kill
Your cold bare hands can kill
Soooo ya gonna outlaw every damn thing?
How about tAking responsibility?
These fool parents knew their boy was in freaken sane
But did squat but blame guns?
He bought them.
Logical conclusions require active thought to reach. the 1963 Communist goals dod wonders for helping to install teachers into academia that were opposed to logic cources, precicely because they wanted to raise a population that did not think too far ahead.
Because if one is allowed...yes, ‘allowed’ to think things through, they come to non liberal conclusions about a lot of things. So people stopped receiving an education that would give them the tools to question, assess and logically evaluate scenarios.
All of this played out in the open. People that tried stopping it were maimed in the press as whack jobs and bible thumping fanatics who hated science and ‘wanted to keep people stupid’.
Project much? Yea, they did. and by the time anyone made any headway, they were entrenched and the population auditioning for Aristocracy.
“They are in inconceivable pain.”
Did this kid work? Where’d he get the BMW and the guns? They didn’t think there was a problem until he was issuing manifestos?
Instead of therapy they should have tried parenting.
“So people stopped receiving an education that would give them the tools to question, assess and logically evaluate scenarios.”
Absolutely; it is no accident that Mexico’s president today has to battle with their teachers’ unions to try to move his country ahead. We are saddled with the same party organs, and they own the Democratic Party.
> Instead of therapy they should have tried parenting.
There are some mental and emotional pathologies for which “parenting” does not work.
In the olden days, such people were confined to sanitoriums.
Today they are medicated. Medication works as long as they are faithful to take it. However, experience has also shown me that, for some reason, many folks who need medication to cope with their mental illness are not faithful to the prescribed regimen.
Sounds like another made up Hollywood story to me, trying to make both parents look like heroes in a CYA piece. If they had such concerns, why not pick up a phone?
His father was blaming the NRA and guns, as was the MSM, IGNORING the fact that his son stabbed three people.
I've often said if you took two Roman short swords into a crowded room of innocents with evil intent you could do some terrible, terrible things and no one would be able to stop you. And swords don't run our of ammunition or have to be reloaded.
Last I heard, BWMs are not cheap.
You are right. I had to get to FR to find some common sense. Sad and tragic.
“”Id like more details about this latest call from the parents. Itd be interesting to know exactly what they conveyed to law enforcement.””
Me too. Why has the Santa Barbara Sheriff said nothing about a 911 call from his parents the evening of the murders? Did they really make the call? Or are they just saying they made the call to cover their behinds?
i thought i read that they were hoping against hope that it was not their son... natural... but of course, they had to know...
did his father blame the NRA? i had read where the father of the guy shot in the delicatessen blamed the NRA... i had not heard that Peter Rodgers did too...
Does the “Baker Act” no longer exist?
The dad and stepmom spent this kid’s entire life pushing him off on others. Shrinks, schools, police etc. If they feared they had a homicidal maniac on their hands why not take away the BMW and everything else they spoiled him with? At the very least he wouldn’t have been able to plan out his spree or drive around killing people without daddy’s Beemer. These parents were worthless their crazy kid was just an inconvenience to them. And still is. They lawyered up the second this went down and have been selfishly trying to justify themselves ever since
Taking the meds doesn’t cure them. It makes them “pass for normal” until they ultimately flip out killing themselves/others.
The crinminally insane have more rights than the citizens do. The basic human right of self-defense is being denied Americans so that we “don’t have to fear” being shot by chemically imbalanced nutjobs. Of course, they can still legally buy an SUV, steak knife, or other murder implement as this lad did.
I agree with you on the TRUE pathologies that require treatment and therapy. With that said, many societal ills in our culture are due to lack of parenting and the breakdown of family values, also the chemical solution we so heartily embrace in the U.S.
WE cannot transfer our responsibilities for raising our children to psychiatrists and chemists. I am generalizing without evidence to the contrary, but a troubled kid, who’s been in therapy for years is allowed to stop therapy by his choice?
OK then tell me how this young man was getting along. Let’s see, had a BMW, was living in Santa Barbara, had money for guns, internet access and presumably the luxuries of modern life, how? Was he an actor, lawyer, brain surgeon, or was he subsidized by mom and dad.
Occam’s razor, coldly I will say without real evidence, his parents probably were supporting him and as long as he was out of sight out of mind, all is good Great guidance there. OK flame away
So, they left there snake pit kid off in Santa Barbara on his own devices after having showered him with money and gifts his entire life. I saw one of those videos, nothing but a fairy boy...who the hell would want to go out with that egotistical weed. Too bad he did not take the “heroes” way out and just off himself.
In the early 80s I tried to relo to Santa Barbara, loved the area. Glad it did not work out.
Did none of these over-paid therapists ever tell the parents to stop giving this psychotic offspring lavish gifts? Make him actually work for something?
They certainly had the right and the obligation to have him committed to a mental institution when years of therapy obviously did not make him function better in society.
It is not that simple and there are many psycho young men who have their wires crossed.
They can be cheap and they can be affordable and they can be expensive. It all depends. I think mine's worth about as much as a new Honda Civic.
Maybe the parenting-thing would have worked out better if dad had worked together with his son to bring an old project BMW back to life than flying off to photograph women's butts and using the money to buy his precious little snowflake a new BMW did.
Been in therapy since childhood....
So let him live out in the general society, not taking the responsibility of parents by checking his well-being and that of others constantly, and....
Fly him around in private planes, give him a $40K BMW, let him live the life of luxury but don’t give him the skills to cope with life....
Typical libtard parents.
For the little people!
My thought too.
There’s an extensive article at The Daily Mail on-line which goes into just what kind of life this kid lived leading up to this carnage....
Private planes, the BMW, anything he wanted...
Liberal belief: got a problem, throw money at it...even if it’s your kid.
And the demonrat party owns the ballot box.....