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Shooter's Parents Sped to Try to Stop Him
Newser ^ | May 26, 2014 | Rob Quinn

Posted on 05/26/2014 3:09:55 AM PDT by Enterprise

"When Elliot Rodger's parents realized just how dangerous their disturbed son was, they made a desperate attempt to try to stop him. They received a copy of his 141-page manifesto and saw a YouTube video outlining his plans for his "Day of Retribution" on Friday night and called 911 before rushing to Santa Barbara in separate cars, a family friend tells the New York Daily News. They heard about the shooting spree while they were on their way. "They were hoping against hope," the friend says. "They are in inconceivable pain."

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"He had been in therapy since childhood, but turned his back on mental health care when he turned 18. He had no criminal history, never explicitly threatened others, and even when his worried parents requested police check on him, deputies found no reason to place him in an involuntary psychiatric hold."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: criminallyinsane; elliotrodger; knifingattacks; massmurderer; roger; rogers; santabarbara; shootings; stabbings; suvrampage; vehicularassault; video
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In therapy since childhood.
1 posted on 05/26/2014 3:09:56 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

Don’t blame the madmen. Blame the guns.


2 posted on 05/26/2014 3:12:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Enterprise

Pretty much says it all.


3 posted on 05/26/2014 3:12:29 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Enterprise

Is this the story the parents are going to go by now? I guess it took a little time to agree on one.


4 posted on 05/26/2014 3:13:57 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Enterprise

So, their lawyer has now figured out that instead of trying to appease Gun-Grabbers that don’t have legal stake in this, he/they should have been preparing for the onslaught of negligence lawsuits in identifying the son as a high-risk to the authorities.

My guess is you won’t find any 911 tapes or transcripts or records of calls to police, etc. before that day when they found his ‘manifesto.’


5 posted on 05/26/2014 3:15:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cowboy Bob

The parents must have talked to lawyers, and this is was they are saying in an attempt to avoid lawsuits.


6 posted on 05/26/2014 3:15:31 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

His dad sells pictures of women’s butts. One of those artsy fartsy types.


7 posted on 05/26/2014 3:16:13 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
John Morgan (supreme liberal ambulance chaser) would be on this like stink on do do if it were in Florida.
I am sure CA has plenty of John Morgans. . .
8 posted on 05/26/2014 3:24:36 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Memorial Day. Thank you VETS. Some gave all - All gave some.)
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To: DeaconRed

Santa Barbara is a liberal area. The sharks smell blood.


9 posted on 05/26/2014 3:25:23 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Gaffer

Actually, the contact the Sheriff’s Office made was a month ago. And, obviously, the assessment of the deputies at that time was correct. I’d like more details about this latest call from the parents. It’d be interesting to know exactly what they conveyed to law enforcement.


10 posted on 05/26/2014 3:25:59 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Enterprise
"His dad sells pictures of women’s butts. One of those artsy fartsy types."

I though I read where his dad also worked for a violet video game company. . . .

11 posted on 05/26/2014 3:26:35 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Memorial Day. Thank you VETS. Some gave all - All gave some.)
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To: DeaconRed

I haven’t read that so far. A lot of information is still percolating.


12 posted on 05/26/2014 3:29:38 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
"Rodger, who died of a gunshot wound in the BMW, is the son of Hunger Games second unit director Peter Rodger. "

Got this from DRUDGE.

13 posted on 05/26/2014 3:33:15 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Memorial Day. Thank you VETS. Some gave all - All gave some.)
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To: Enterprise
but turned his back on mental health care when he turned 18.
This is where you get off.

Left to his or her own demise......and sadly Innocent others as well.
In all these cases at this turning point they are allowed to be trusted to take thier meds on thier own refuse mental health help and be unleashed onto society because of the mental health FAILURE constructed by the government. At the age of 18 they should be automatically infirmed and re evaluated before being set free on thier own

14 posted on 05/26/2014 3:36:41 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: DeaconRed

The second unit usually goes out and shoots things like establishing shots, location pieces, stuff like that.


15 posted on 05/26/2014 3:38:13 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

And, if I’m not mistaken, second unit directors do shots that don’t involve the principle actors; i.e. the “big” names.


16 posted on 05/26/2014 3:46:22 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Enterprise

This is the fruit of CA values.

The father was into porn art...the mother into desperate housewives.

They taught their son terrible values about women. This is in no way the NRA’s fault.


17 posted on 05/26/2014 3:49:29 AM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: F15Eagle

As a rule, that’s correct. For a show that’s shot mostly on stage, though, the principles may get flown to location to do exteriors, and the second unit will shoot those.

Essentially, they do whatever the director foists off on them.


18 posted on 05/26/2014 3:51:48 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Enterprise

And that ‘therapy’ told him he was as normal as anyone so as not to stigmatize him...

Which was no therapy at all. And it is solely the responsibility of liberals that the APA was reduced to a behavorial justification department of the federal govt. They closed institutions in the name of ‘rights’, reworded long established facts and made their problems simply vanish with psychotropic drugs.

Except now we see they didn’t. It is only a miracle from God that this does not happen dozens of times daily.


19 posted on 05/26/2014 3:53:55 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: what's up

More like terrible values about humans. The first three victims were young men.


20 posted on 05/26/2014 3:54:00 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

“More like terrible values about humans. The first three victims were young men.”

Victims of the Entitlement War (this freak felt society owed him blonde girlfriends to amuse him); RIP.


21 posted on 05/26/2014 3:59:47 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Gaffer

The thing that’s throwing me at the moment is this story of becoming aware of his final manifesto, calling 911, and frantically driving to Santa Barbara, then hearing about the violence on the way, but not knowing their kid was involved. Whereupon, they did what?

Santa Barbara’s an hour and a half north of the SF valley, which makes it kind of likely that if they actually made the call, it was during the time the incident was taking place.

And I’m confused about why you’d start to drive up there to prevent a mass murder, hear that there was one, and not know that your kid was involved.

Maybe it all makes sense when you diagram it... at the moment I’m having trouble grasping how it played out.


22 posted on 05/26/2014 4:08:54 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Enterprise

Where did he get the guns? Who gave them to him?


23 posted on 05/26/2014 4:16:23 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A gallon of gas can kill
A car can kill
A lead pipe can kill
Your cold bare hands can kill
Soooo ya gonna outlaw every damn thing?
How about tAking responsibility?
These fool parents knew their boy was in freaken sane
But did squat but blame guns?
Dumbasses


24 posted on 05/26/2014 4:22:50 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: DainBramage

He bought them.


25 posted on 05/26/2014 4:24:49 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: kearnyirish2

Logical conclusions require active thought to reach. the 1963 Communist goals dod wonders for helping to install teachers into academia that were opposed to logic cources, precicely because they wanted to raise a population that did not think too far ahead.

Because if one is allowed...yes, ‘allowed’ to think things through, they come to non liberal conclusions about a lot of things. So people stopped receiving an education that would give them the tools to question, assess and logically evaluate scenarios.

All of this played out in the open. People that tried stopping it were maimed in the press as whack jobs and bible thumping fanatics who hated science and ‘wanted to keep people stupid’.

Project much? Yea, they did. and by the time anyone made any headway, they were entrenched and the population auditioning for Aristocracy.


26 posted on 05/26/2014 4:25:04 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Enterprise

“They are in inconceivable pain.”

Did this kid work? Where’d he get the BMW and the guns? They didn’t think there was a problem until he was issuing manifestos?


27 posted on 05/26/2014 4:29:59 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Enterprise

Instead of therapy they should have tried parenting.


28 posted on 05/26/2014 4:34:22 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“So people stopped receiving an education that would give them the tools to question, assess and logically evaluate scenarios.”

Absolutely; it is no accident that Mexico’s president today has to battle with their teachers’ unions to try to move his country ahead. We are saddled with the same party organs, and they own the Democratic Party.


29 posted on 05/26/2014 4:37:49 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: VTenigma

> Instead of therapy they should have tried parenting.

There are some mental and emotional pathologies for which “parenting” does not work.

In the olden days, such people were confined to sanitoriums.

Today they are medicated. Medication works as long as they are faithful to take it. However, experience has also shown me that, for some reason, many folks who need medication to cope with their mental illness are not faithful to the prescribed regimen.


30 posted on 05/26/2014 4:41:00 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Enterprise

Sounds like another made up Hollywood story to me, trying to make both parents look like heroes in a CYA piece. If they had such concerns, why not pick up a phone?


31 posted on 05/26/2014 4:41:50 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Blame the guns.

His father was blaming the NRA and guns, as was the MSM, IGNORING the fact that his son stabbed three people.

I've often said if you took two Roman short swords into a crowded room of innocents with evil intent you could do some terrible, terrible things and no one would be able to stop you. And swords don't run our of ammunition or have to be reloaded.

32 posted on 05/26/2014 4:43:17 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: TalBlack

Last I heard, BWMs are not cheap.


33 posted on 05/26/2014 4:44:04 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: ronnie raygun

You are right. I had to get to FR to find some common sense. Sad and tragic.


34 posted on 05/26/2014 4:48:01 AM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

“”I’d like more details about this latest call from the parents. It’d be interesting to know exactly what they conveyed to law enforcement.””


Me too. Why has the Santa Barbara Sheriff said nothing about a 911 call from his parents the evening of the murders? Did they really make the call? Or are they just saying they made the call to cover their behinds?


35 posted on 05/26/2014 4:49:31 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: ArmstedFragg
And I’m confused about why you’d start to drive up there to prevent a mass murder, hear that there was one, and not know that your kid was involved.

i thought i read that they were hoping against hope that it was not their son... natural... but of course, they had to know...

36 posted on 05/26/2014 4:53:19 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Hardastarboard
His father was blaming the NRA and guns, as was the MSM, IGNORING the fact that his son stabbed three people.

did his father blame the NRA? i had read where the father of the guy shot in the delicatessen blamed the NRA... i had not heard that Peter Rodgers did too...

37 posted on 05/26/2014 4:55:32 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Enterprise

Does the “Baker Act” no longer exist?


38 posted on 05/26/2014 4:59:00 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The dad and stepmom spent this kid’s entire life pushing him off on others. Shrinks, schools, police etc. If they feared they had a homicidal maniac on their hands why not take away the BMW and everything else they spoiled him with? At the very least he wouldn’t have been able to plan out his spree or drive around killing people without daddy’s Beemer. These parents were worthless their crazy kid was just an inconvenience to them. And still is. They lawyered up the second this went down and have been selfishly trying to justify themselves ever since


39 posted on 05/26/2014 5:01:00 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: ronnie raygun

Taking the meds doesn’t cure them. It makes them “pass for normal” until they ultimately flip out killing themselves/others.

The crinminally insane have more rights than the citizens do. The basic human right of self-defense is being denied Americans so that we “don’t have to fear” being shot by chemically imbalanced nutjobs. Of course, they can still legally buy an SUV, steak knife, or other murder implement as this lad did.


40 posted on 05/26/2014 5:01:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Westbrook

I agree with you on the TRUE pathologies that require treatment and therapy. With that said, many societal ills in our culture are due to lack of parenting and the breakdown of family values, also the chemical solution we so heartily embrace in the U.S.

WE cannot transfer our responsibilities for raising our children to psychiatrists and chemists. I am generalizing without evidence to the contrary, but a troubled kid, who’s been in therapy for years is allowed to stop therapy by his choice?

OK then tell me how this young man was getting along. Let’s see, had a BMW, was living in Santa Barbara, had money for guns, internet access and presumably the luxuries of modern life, how? Was he an actor, lawyer, brain surgeon, or was he subsidized by mom and dad.

Occam’s razor, coldly I will say without real evidence, his parents probably were supporting him and as long as he was out of sight out of mind, all is good Great guidance there. OK flame away


41 posted on 05/26/2014 5:03:29 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: over3Owithabrain
The father is a creature of the Hollyweird set. Lawyer? More likely some on call PR type who knows how to frame these situations. Besides the NRA they are now trying to off load this tragedy on the SBSO, hardly a bastion of gun rights.

So, they left there snake pit kid off in Santa Barbara on his own devices after having showered him with money and gifts his entire life. I saw one of those videos, nothing but a fairy boy...who the hell would want to go out with that egotistical weed. Too bad he did not take the “heroes” way out and just off himself.

In the early 80s I tried to relo to Santa Barbara, loved the area. Glad it did not work out.

42 posted on 05/26/2014 5:09:45 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Enterprise

Did none of these over-paid therapists ever tell the parents to stop giving this psychotic offspring lavish gifts? Make him actually work for something?

They certainly had the right and the obligation to have him committed to a mental institution when years of therapy obviously did not make him function better in society.


43 posted on 05/26/2014 5:12:06 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: VTenigma

It is not that simple and there are many psycho young men who have their wires crossed.


44 posted on 05/26/2014 5:12:54 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Last I heard, BWMs are not cheap.

They can be cheap and they can be affordable and they can be expensive. It all depends. I think mine's worth about as much as a new Honda Civic.

Maybe the parenting-thing would have worked out better if dad had worked together with his son to bring an old project BMW back to life than flying off to photograph women's butts and using the money to buy his precious little snowflake a new BMW did.

45 posted on 05/26/2014 5:17:38 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Enterprise

Been in therapy since childhood....
So let him live out in the general society, not taking the responsibility of parents by checking his well-being and that of others constantly, and....
Fly him around in private planes, give him a $40K BMW, let him live the life of luxury but don’t give him the skills to cope with life....
Typical libtard parents.


46 posted on 05/26/2014 5:27:20 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: DeaconRed
John Morgan (supreme liberal ambulance chaser) would be on this like stink on do do if it were in Florida.

For the little people!

47 posted on 05/26/2014 5:29:57 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cowboy Bob

My thought too.


48 posted on 05/26/2014 5:31:20 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: TalBlack

There’s an extensive article at The Daily Mail on-line which goes into just what kind of life this kid lived leading up to this carnage....
Private planes, the BMW, anything he wanted...
Liberal belief: got a problem, throw money at it...even if it’s your kid.


49 posted on 05/26/2014 5:33:15 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: kearnyirish2

And the demonrat party owns the ballot box.....


50 posted on 05/26/2014 5:34:10 AM PDT by matginzac
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