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Victory for American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG - Probation Continues
www.JudicialWatch.org ^ | ALOHA RONNIE, Witness

Posted on 10/19/2001 4:52:04 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

.."No matter what happens, I did nothing wrong".. stated American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG just as his Court Hearing before Federal Judge MANUEL "Loose Cannon" REAL was due to commence 1/2 hour late in Los Angeles Federal Courthouse this morning.

...JOHNNY CHUNG had been brought to Court over his 3,000 hrs CHINA-GATE Probation Sentence brought by this Judge, that he has completed over 2,000 hrs of in 2 years, because his new Probation Supervising CAL-TRANS was refusing to assign him the Work that would finish his Probation Sentence. Confusing...? Not where CHINA-GATE and the Democrats in California State Government are concerned.

...Enter Judicial Watch's Judge Monitoring Program Manager and Former Los Angeles Prosecutor STERLING "ERNIE" NORRIS who filed to become JOHNNY's Associate Attorney to literally sit alongside his present Democrat FootSoldier Attorney BRIAN SUN..at JOHNNY's request.

...An understanding came during this Hearing between Att. SUN and the Prosecuting Asst. U.S. Attorney O'BRIEN, yes he of .."Just Call 911, Johnny".. & CHINA-GATE's KingPin JAMES RIADY .."Get out of Jail Free".. Hearing in March of 2001.

...In this understanding JOHNNY was taking responsibility for his part in a "Communications Breakdown" between he and CAL-TRANS. To which Judge REAL stated .."Things will be done my way, not JOHNNY CHUNG's way...!"

...In the end he ordered the Probation Dept to STOP treating Probationer JOHNNY CHUNG in any "Special Way" as it has been doing thru supervising CAL-TRANS' assigning a third party to keep track of JOHNNY's Probrationary hours ..because CAL-TRANS didn't want to. This had put JOHNNY CHUNG in the Middle ...probably by design ..as it stopped him from being assigned the Community Service Work he needed to do in order to finish his 3,000 hrs Probation ..earning him a trip to Los Angeles Federal Court. A Probation which is 7.5 times Federal Probation Guidlines as assigned by Judge REAL.

...A Good Crowd of 30 or 40 people was on hand in Court of JOHNNY's Supporters from his Church -&- YMCA he did Community Service in, his Family, Friends, Talk Radio Listeners -&- Freepers 'goldilucky' -&- 'ALOHA RONNIE' ...to support his and Judicial Watch's Fight for CHUNG's continued Freedom.

...What kind of -Fight for Freedom- was it...?

...Judge REAL's parting shot at JOHNNY CHUNG while granting a continuation of his .."Same Probation as before"..

.."You can't continue doing what you're doing or you are going to Jail, JOHNNY CHUNG"... that's how close.

American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG, in an Era of American Heroes, remains a Free Man this Day.


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To: goldilucky
Yes, in fact I just heard it. I thought it was Larry's voice but I wasn't sure.

I think it was. Larry's been hot on the Bush business connection to Bin Laden and thats what the caller brought up. Its keeping in Larry's vile, lower than low character. Drudge outted him. Slapped him back into his cave.

141 posted on 10/21/2001 8:03:15 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
3 - I don't trust a thing that LK or JW says without independent confirmation.

Yet you apparently can't provide ONE INSTANCE where he lied or shaded the truth in the Chinagate, Filegate, Emailgate or death of Brown cases. You don't seem to have a basis for your distrust do you? ... other than not liking the fact that he sued his mom under circumstances that apparently you don't even know (we are still waiting to hear your source for that accusation ... one that shows Klayman's character to be other than honorable).

4 - I do think that Ron Brown may have been murdered and his murder may have been at the hands of the Clinton administration. However I DON'T believe that Brown ever said he was going to rat Clinton out. He was a very loyal democrat and was on top of the world (yes I will use that phrase again) at the time of his death. I, unlike you, have shown first source documents that indicate Brown was working harder than ever to protect Clinton, not rat him out.

OK. If you think he was murdered by Clinton but don't believe he intended to turn state's evidence, then what was the motive for Clinton murdering him? Come on ... Occam's Razor says the most obvious explanation is the one that we already have at least some indication of ... from Klayman, a source that you have yet to actually discredit with any facts other than a mean spirited smear about him sueing his mom. You also have not addressed the FACT that Nolanda Hill has NEVER denied Klayman's statement, no liberal media outlet ever disproved his claim and they undoubtedly would have if they could have, and he submitted the statement in a legal document as fact which if not true should have gotten him in big trouble with a three judge panel ... but it didn't.

Finally, you also have a strange definition for "on top of the world". Brown was a man in VERY DEEP legal trouble. He was watching his house of cards collapse around him and his family. Only his death prevented his wife and son from going down and his own reputation from being thoroughly destroyed.

5 - I dont really care either way if they dig up Brown's body. I've seen the autopsy pictures and it looks like he was shot. Thats good enough for me.

Well perhaps you should care. Exhuming Brown should be a high priority for the GOP because if it is true that Brown was shot then the whole DNC criminal mafia can be brought down ... including many in the liberal media who undeniably helped hid the facts about the case from the public. And by the way ... there was NO AUTOPSY ... only an "examination" of the body. The WHOLE POINT is that an autopsy SHOULD HAVE been done and if the Bush/Ashcroft won't do it now then we should be asking WHY come the next election.

142 posted on 10/21/2001 8:09:09 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: VA Advogado; miss print; goldilucky; reformjoy
...Did you hear DRUDGE just play 8,000 NYC Fireman, Rescue Workers and Policeman Heroes BOO'ing HILLARY right off the Madison Square Garden Stage in just 20 Seconds last night...?
143 posted on 10/21/2001 8:10:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: VA Advogado
"I think it was. Larry's been hot on the Bush business connection to Bin Laden and thats what the caller brought up. Its keeping in Larry's vile, lower than low character. Drudge outted him. Slapped him back into his cave."

I thought it was him. Anyways, Larry has a good point on the issue about Bush's connection to Bin Laden. I don't know what you meant by "Its keeping in Larry's vile, lower than low character...." I don't understand why Drudge outed him.

144 posted on 10/21/2001 8:12:57 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I sure did and it was great! Did you just hear Larry get outed off by Drudge? What was that all about?
145 posted on 10/21/2001 8:14:35 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; miss print
BUMP for Johnny Chung
146 posted on 10/21/2001 8:19:07 PM PDT by FallGuy
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To: goldilucky
...MATT DRUDGE went off BIG TIME on DICK MORRIS some months ago, slamming his FoX News Commentaries.

...It didn't affect the Hi-Accuracy of DICK MORRIS' Political Insights what so ever.

147 posted on 10/21/2001 8:21:18 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Matt Drudge has been know to slam alot of people. But I think Larry had a good point in addressing the issue about the Bin Laden-Bush connection.
148 posted on 10/21/2001 8:27:18 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
YES, I heard about the Boos!

More at this great thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/552971/posts?page=1,50

149 posted on 10/21/2001 8:36:11 PM PDT by reformjoy
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To: miss print
Thanks for the bump to your post #39.

And many thanks to you and your husband for being fine patriots. Just like the Firefighters and Police Officers in New York who had the GUTS to BOOOOOO Hillery Roehm last night!

150 posted on 10/21/2001 8:43:33 PM PDT by reformjoy
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To: reformjoy
.."This is all YOUR Fault ..This is all YOUR Fault"..

...yelled the American Heroes back at a screaming Evil-Doer HILLARY CLINTON standing on stage for just 20 Seconds last night in good ol' NEW YORK, NEW YORK.

151 posted on 10/21/2001 8:53:17 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Diver Dave
...SAT =

...HILLARY Booo'd by NYC Heroes on VH1...

...SUN =

...HILLARY Booo'd by NYC Heroes on The DRUDGE REPORT National Talk Radio Show played over -&- over again...

152 posted on 10/21/2001 9:07:24 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
EVIL DO-ERS sometimes where Black Pantsuits with frilly yellow collars.
153 posted on 10/21/2001 10:12:30 PM PDT by reformjoy
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To: BeAChooser; VA Advogado; ALOHA RONNIE; goldilucky; Snow Bunny; reformjoy; ChaseR; Landru
VA A: 5 - I dont really care either way if they dig up Brown's body. I've seen the autopsy pictures and it looks like he was shot. Thats good enough for me. Be A: Well perhaps you should care. Exhuming Brown should be a high priority for the GOP because if it is true that Brown was shot then the whole DNC criminal mafia can be brought down ... including many in the liberal media who undeniably helped hid the facts about the case from the public. And by the way ... there was NO AUTOPSY ... only an "examination" of the body. The WHOLE POINT is that an autopsy SHOULD HAVE been done and if the Bush/Ashcroft won't do it now then we should be asking WHY come the next election.

First, VA Advogado, how did you get to see the autopsy/"examination" photos of Ron Brown when they have never been published? Are you in the gov't. and privileged to see photos that have been kept from the public? Inquiring minds want to know... The only thing is, you never answer the hard questions but just keep repeating fuzzy mantras about Johnny Chung being a criminal, Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch, etc., without EVER acknowledging and/or refuting any info. we have given. My claim that you are a leftist posing as a moderate still stands as you have yet to refute it.

Second, Be A Chooser, why wait till next election to start asking questions? Bush/Ashcroft should be asked those questions NOW - not 3 years from now!

The one real problem I have with MOST Republicans is that they don't do anything - as long as there is a Republican in the Oval Office. For 3.5 years they go into hibernation and only do something when an election is forthcoming. In the meantime, the Dems. are working as rust, 'round the clock, to take away our constitutional liberties, etc. Those self-same Republicans chant their mantra of, "But we've got a decent guy in the White House!" and they don't ask tough questions.

Larry Klayman IS asking tough questions of Bush. The lazy Republicans who hide behind their self-righteous mantra don't like Larry's questions, but WHO ELSE is asking those questions? For one thing, why the hell hasn't Bush rescinded all those Constitution-busting Executive Orders issued by Clinton? For example, EO 13166 - the one that says everyone in this country WHO CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH has a "right" to be provided an interpreter. What about rescinding Clinton's unconstitutional Presidential Decision Directive 25 ("PDD 25")? That is so secret that when Michael New tried to have it subpoenaed for his court-martial trial, it was refused as being "Classified" or "Top Secret." Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say that the executive branch has the authority to create policy and law for the country? We are not living in a kingdom, we live in a republic. No president has the constitutional authority to do the stuff Clinton got away with nor does Bush, just because "he's a decent guy!"

Let's remember that prior to WWII, Hitler had a meeting with the clergy in Germany. The clergy were falling all over Hitler instead of asking tough questions. Only one clergyman got up and asked tough questions of him. The others held in their horror - how could someone question der fuehrer? Turns out, the one lone clergyman was correct and the rest of the clinging cloying clergy were nothing but sheeple. The name of the concentration camp in Germany escapes me but there is a plaque on the door leading to it with an apology from the clergy. (Focus on the Family had an audio tape about this a few years back. It was one of the most popular.)

Yeah, I like the guy who asks tough questions. Life is like a turtle, you don't get anywhere unless you stick out your neck. Larry Klayman sticks out his neck and asks tough questions. My kind of guy. GO KLAYMAN GO! GO JUDICIAL WATCH GO!!

154 posted on 10/22/2001 1:56:10 AM PDT by miss print
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To: OK
If all you had to do to get presidental favors was give a few thousand dollars to be able to make a lot more would you do it? I would. It suprises me how cheap it is to buy favors today in americas political landscape.
155 posted on 10/22/2001 2:03:37 AM PDT by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: miss print
First, VA Advogado, how did you get to see the autopsy/"examination" photos of Ron Brown when they have never been published? Are you in the gov't. and privileged to see photos that have been kept from the public? Inquiring minds want to know... The only thing is, you never answer the hard questions but just keep repeating fuzzy mantras about Johnny Chung being a criminal, Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch, etc., without EVER acknowledging and/or refuting any info. we have given. My claim that you are a leftist posing as a moderate still stands as you have yet to refute it.

This is the photo I am referring to.  The site that I have bookmarked for the Ron Brown case say this is an autopsy photo.  Click on the photo to see the rest of the site.  The definition of autopsy is pretty simple:

Main Entry: au·top·sy
Pronunciation: 'o-"täp-sE, 'o-t&p-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -sies
Etymology: Greek autopsia act of seeing with one's own eyes, from aut- + opsis sight, appearance -- more at OPTIC
Date: 1678
1 : an examination of a body after death to determine the cause of death or the character and extent of changes produced by disease
2 : a critical examination, evaluation, or assessment of someone or something past

So again, Miss Print, you have put forth inaccurate, misleading and factually WRONG information.  I have no problem with people asking the tough question, its the accurate answers you seem to have a little trouble with.  May I politely suggest you stop defending these Hillary supporters, stop giving aid and comfort to the enemy, stop obfuscating for those that want to bring harm to our president and his family (Judicial Watch) and work towards seeing more of them punished for the sordid things they've done to this country.  Remember, you're either with us, or against us.  

156 posted on 10/22/2001 4:34:48 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
NEVER FORGET

...The Fireman/Policemen Heroes of New York City at Ground Zero/Heroes know just who's with us and who's against us as they BOO'd HILLARY CLINTON right off a Madison Square Garden Stage Saturday Night as they shouted at her about the Airstrikes on America on Sept. 11th...

"This is all YOUR Fault, This is all YOUR Fault"

NEVER FORGET

157 posted on 10/22/2001 5:10:06 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: VA Advogado; miss print; Carl/NewsMax; BeAChooser; reformjoy; goldilucky; Buchanan mama...
...Thank you for the Photo of the present state of the back of RON BROWN's Head, bullet hole and all, taken after his "Sudden" Plane Crash in Bosnia in lieu of his being Deposed by JUDICIAL WATCH and by the U.S. Congress.

...THE Point here is WHY do we have to go to your Undergroud Website to access this Photo when we should have only had to read the N.Y. Times or L.A. Times or simply turn on our TV Sets to ABC-CBS-NBC-CNN-FoX TV Networks to see it AT THE TIME ...but couldn't because it was nowhere there to be seen by the American Voters.

...The only time I ever saw this Photo on TV was when.. www.Newsmax.com ..Founder and Author CHRIS RUDDY ..of 'The Mysterious Death of VINCE FOSTER' Fame.. showed it on PBS' ..'LARRY BROWN's JOURNAL'.. a couple of years ago... and NOWHERE ELSE.

...It's because this Photo alone cries out for AN INVESTIGATION of his Mysterious Death, that's why, and to do that RON BROWN's Body has to be brought back out of the ground at Arlington National Cemetary of all places, thanks to BILL CLINTON.

...The Air Force Personnel who did do the Procedure on RON BROWN's Body wanted to share with the World what they had to show US all and were reprimanded for it.

...Miss Print's single point about the need for someone to be out there asking the hard questions about RON BROWN's Mysterious Death ..under the most timely of circumstances for -The Enemy Within- CLINTONS... is of paramount importance and since no one in Elective Office is asking it... KLAYMAN is ...

...because like JUDICIAL WATCH's Mantra states...

.."NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW"..

...still.

158 posted on 10/22/2001 5:53:20 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Ron C.; flamefront; RonDog; generalissimoduane
...ALOHA ...Please see Post # 158...
159 posted on 10/22/2001 5:56:29 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: miss print
"Well, DUH! Everyone knows that Johnny did those things. No one IN THE GOVERNMENT ever asked him WHO told him to do those things! Sweetie, it was Hitlery & Co., namely the DNC. We all know those things. Neither Hitlery nor the DNC ever returned any of his money any more than the DNC returned any of James Riady's dinero - even though they said did in the major media."

The points you've so eloquently stated above?
Were proven & known by all not long after their revelation.
To reiterate, "the *evidence*" (via documentation) now is simply assinine; reminiscent of the ploy we had shoved down out throats by the Leftist quislings for eight long years!!
You remember?
The old Clintonian-honed Leftist modus operandi; stop ALL inquireries, go BACK to the beginning at THEIR insistance, SHOW 'em in BLACK & WHITE chronological "evidence" in BLACK & WHITE...then, watch 'em ALL obfuscate onto something else?
IGNORING the entire matter from that instant forward?? ~Oh yea...
Enough of that crap.
However, having said that?
IF anyone (VA...) still insisted on having this material?
They're perfectly free to go dig it all back up themselves.
Because as far as I'm concerned once was enough for me.
Those late-inning doubters are free to spend their time in any pursuit they see fit.
But for crying out loud, don't ask others to waste their time in an effort to prove something most everyone (except them) seems to already know & accepted!!
To do so is the epitome of LAZINESS!!!

Hence, the *motive(s)* behind such an effort/request are suspect & smell to high Heaven.
...to me.

160 posted on 10/22/2001 6:16:01 AM PDT by Landru
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