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Survival of the fittest: David Hackworth compares military readiness of Marines, Army
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, November 27, 2001 | Col. David Hackworth

Posted on 11/27/2001 1:03:46 AM PST by JohnHuang2

The first non-Special Ops unit deployed to Afghanistan is the U.S. Marines Corps – no big surprise to this old Army doggie.

In World War II's South Pacific, Marines were "the firstus with the mostus" into the Solomons, and they led the way into Vietnam. In Korea, they landed second, but unlike the Army units initially deployed there, Gen. Edward Craig's Marine brigade hit the beach ready to fight. And without their skill, sacrifice and courage, the beleaguered Eighth Army would've been pushed into the sea during the early months of the conflict. A similar scenario occurred during the early stages of Desert Storm, in which Marine units came in ready to fight while the first Army troops – the 82nd Airborne Division, with its insufficient anti-tank capability – were a potential speed bump waiting to be flattened.

The Corps, which has never lost sight that its primary mission is to fight, remains superbly trained and disciplined – true to its time-honored slogan "We don't promise a rose garden." When, under Clinton, the Army lowered its standards to Boy Scout summer-camp level in order to increase enlistment, the Corps responded by making boot training longer and tougher. Now under USMC Commandant James Jones, that training has gotten even meaner for the young Marine wannabes waiting in line to join up, as well as for Leathernecks already serving in regular and reserve units.

Unlike U.S. Army conventional units – their new slogan, "An Army of One," says it all – the U.S. Marine Corps remains a highly mobile, fierce fighting team that has never forgotten: "The more sweat on the training field, the less blood on the battlefield."

The Marines are flexible, agile, ready and deadly, while the Army remains configured to fight the Soviets – who disappeared off the Order of Battle charts a decade ago. For example, right after Sept. 11, the two Army heavy divisions in Germany – with their 68-ton tanks that can crush almost every bridge they cross – deployed to Poland for war games.

Hello, is there a brain at the top somewhere beneath that snazzy Black Beret being modeled at most U.S. airports by too many overweight Army National Guard troops?

The Army has eight other regular divisions, all designed to fight 20th-century wars. Three are heavy – Tank and Mech Infantry – and two are light, the storied 82nd Airborne and the elite 101st Airborne (now helicopter), and then there's the light/heavy 10,000-man 2nd Division that's in Korea backing up a million-man, superbly fit South Korean Army.

Less the light divisions, our Army's not versatile, deployable, swift or sustainable. The heavy units require fleets of ships and planes to move them, and it takes months to get them there – it took Stormin' Norman six months to ready a force for Desert Storm. The 101st – while deadly, as Desert Storm proved – is also a slow mover requiring a huge amount of strategic lift – ships and giant planes – to get to the battlefield, not to mention the massive tax-dollar load to outfit and maintain it.

Sadly, today's Army is like a street fighter with brass knuckles too heavy to lift.

After the Rangers' disaster in Somalia – where there were no tanks to break through to relieve them – and the embarrassment of not being able to fight in the war in Serbia, Army Chief Of Staff Eric Shinseki started forming light brigades strikingly similar to USMC units. When I asked, "Why the copycatting?" an Army officer said: "It was either copy or go out of business. We'd become redundant because of long-term lack of boldness and imagination at the top."

The Army costs about $80 billion a year to run. It's time for Congress to do its duty and stop enjoying the benefits of all the pork this obsolescence and redundancy provides. If the Army can't change with the times – as the powerful horse cavalry generals couldn't just prior to World War II – then it should fold up its tents and turn the ground-fighting mission over to the Marines.

The law of nature is simple: survival of the fittest. And in the 21st century, heartbreaking as it is for me to admit, the forward-based and highly deployable U.S. Marine Corps is the fittest.



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1 posted on 11/27/2001 1:03:46 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
The Colonel is one straight-talking doggie!

Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines

2 posted on 11/27/2001 4:13:52 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg
"Hello, is there a brain at the top somewhere beneath that snazzy Black Beret being modeled at most U.S. airports by too many overweight Army National Guard troops?"

hahahaha...Great line!

3 posted on 11/27/2001 4:21:07 AM PST by dakine
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To: JohnHuang2
Semper Fi.

To all the guys I didn't make it through boot with (med dischg.), Godspeed. I wish I was still in.

4 posted on 11/27/2001 4:25:41 AM PST by Benrand
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To: JohnHuang2; Irma; LadyX
You post the best stuff, JH2! In a Thanksgiving day phone conversation with my favorite Drill Instructor at Parris Island, I learned that the latest group of Marine recruits are "great kids. Very motivated. More than half of my new recruits are from New York City. I asked every one of them, 'Why are you here?' and every one of them said they were here for Revenge! These are high quality kids. The harder we push 'em, the more determined they get." God, I love the Marines.
5 posted on 11/27/2001 4:29:17 AM PST by looscannon
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To: JohnHuang2
Oh how I wish I were back in the Corps.

Semper Fi....go get 'em Marines.

6 posted on 11/27/2001 4:47:23 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: JohnHuang2
SEMPER FI TO MY BELOVED MARINE CORPS!!!!!!!!!!
7 posted on 11/27/2001 4:51:33 AM PST by GussiedUp
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To: JohnHuang2
BTTT
8 posted on 11/27/2001 4:58:55 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: looscannon; COB1; CHIEF negotiator; Teacup; tet68; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; RaceBannon...
"'Why are you here?' and every one of them said they were here for Revenge! These are high quality kids. The harder we push 'em, the more determined they get." God, I love the Marines."

WHOA!!! What a way to start the day!!!
Many thanks, friend, for hailing me to this one. Hack is one of my favorite guys, so articulate when it comes to describing how things are and how they ought to be.

It's wonderful to know the Marines never lowered their standards and remain the VERY BEST in the world, understanding their purpose and what it takes to achieve and maintain readiness.

The Chain goes on intact, thanks to ones like your favorite Marine.
May God bless this so special group of Warriors...and we know CHIEF is watching over them, shouting encouragement from heaven!

9 posted on 11/27/2001 4:59:31 AM PST by LadyX
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To: JohnHuang2
Oo-Stinkin'-Rah!
10 posted on 11/27/2001 5:03:09 AM PST by real saxophonist
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To: JohnHuang2
Hackworth BUMP!!!

redrock

11 posted on 11/27/2001 5:07:51 AM PST by redrock
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To: LadyX
This article contradicts itself. Hack says the Army is too heavy becuase we need to move by ship...well tell me how did thd USMC get there...BY SHIP! If the Army moved around the globe on ships with the Navy for 6 months we would be "flexible" too. And as for equipment we basically use the same stuff, same M1, same artillery, same HUMVEEs. Sure the LAV is lighter than the Bradley, but other than that it's about the same. BTW, I didn't notice any M1s on the ground with the USMC.

Finally, tell me, who can drop 10,000 troops in 48 hours any where in the world, ONLY THE US ARMY (with a little help from our friends at the Air force).

12 posted on 11/27/2001 5:20:22 AM PST by Paratroop
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To: beowolf; Scuttlebutt; ofMagog; Fred Mertz; michigander; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Norb2569; NAMMARINE...
Hailing you to this great article and my Reply #9...
13 posted on 11/27/2001 5:28:40 AM PST by LadyX
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To: LadyX
Hackworth is on message. Go Marines!!
14 posted on 11/27/2001 5:33:18 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Paratroop; COB1; *USMC; Billie; Iowa Granny; nopardons; Humidston; Gracey; Hillary's Lovely Legs...
With all due respect, as a proud member of the U.S. Marine Corps during the Korean Conflict, instructing Women Recruits in Classroom Subjects at Parris Island, I know full well the training of the Corps - and THE SPIRIT of the Warriors!!

I lived aboard at the time of their greatest buildup - 35,000 souls on board, and saw the men's training up close - and oh, and their so different attitude!

I have also been part of the Navy - the Air Force - and had a son in the Army.
You describe logistics, transport and materiel - the arms, ammunition and equipment -
I describe the hearts, without equal, of the individuals...

15 posted on 11/27/2001 5:45:19 AM PST by LadyX
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To: LadyX; Norb2569; NAMMARINE; tet68; dcwusmc; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Texas_Jarhead; Snow Bunny; FallGuy...
"Marines were "the firstus with the mostus" "

I never expected anything different!

I tell all the youngsters I talk with that if they want their country to give them an education and prepare them for later life after the military, choose the Army or the Air Force.
If they want to serve their country instead of letting this country serve them, join the United States Marine Corps.
The Corps has never forgotten it's purpose:
To protect the United States of America.

SEMPER FI

16 posted on 11/27/2001 5:52:11 AM PST by COB1
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To: Fred Mertz
Re your question of last night.
17 posted on 11/27/2001 5:54:25 AM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides; sneakypete
I still say they took the airfield mission out of convenience, not due to any long range planning. Although, sneakypete has a point about everyone "getting a piece of the pie".
18 posted on 11/27/2001 6:00:06 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: gunnyg
The guy who wrote this can kiss my all Army ass! While I hate wearing that stupid Eurotrash lookin' piece o' crud on my head, he doesn't have to rub my face in it. The rest of his article is just plain jealousy stemming from the fact that the U.S. Army has more combat kills than the Marines ever will. So what if Marines are in Afghanistan. Let's not forget, the first Americans in that pisshole were wearing the tab that said "US ARMY" on it. nuff said.
19 posted on 11/27/2001 6:04:20 AM PST by Live free or die
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To: LadyX
May God bless this so special group of Warriors...and we know CHIEF is watching over them, shouting encouragement from heaven!

Bears repeating!!

20 posted on 11/27/2001 6:07:24 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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