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Yahoo! Agrees to Censor Chinese Web Portal.
Yahoo ^ | 7/15/02 | CHRISTOPHER BODEEN

Posted on 07/15/2002 2:48:02 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise

BEIJING (AP) - Internet portals ( news - web sites) in China, including Yahoo!'s Chinese-language site, have signed a voluntary pledge to purge the Web of content that China's communist government deems subversive, organizers of the drive say.

The "Public Pledge on Self-discipline for China Internet Industry" has attracted more than 300 signatories since its launch March 16, said a spokeswoman for the Internet Society of China, who identified herself only as Miss Sun.

The pledge's main aims appear fairly benign: promotion of Internet use, prevention of cyber crime, (department of precrime?) fostering healthy industry competition, avoiding intellectual property violations.

Other clauses, though, seem less innocent given China's tight control over information and the government's extreme sensitivity to criticism or political challenges. New regulations on Internet publishing take affect Aug. 1 "to promote the healthy development of Internet publications," the official Beijing Morning Post reported Monday.

Those who sign the pledge must refrain from "producing, posting or disseminating pernicious information that may jeopardize state security and disrupt social stability." The prohibition also covers information that breaks laws and spreads "superstition and obscenity." Members must remove material deemed offensive or face expulsion from the group.

Signers also pledge to monitor content of foreign-based Web sites and block those containing unspecified harmful information.

The pledge conforms closely to government policies making Internet service providers responsible for content posted on Web sites they host. It's a strategy to give the Internet enough room to blossom (ya, right) while keeping operators on notice not to push the envelope politically.

China has aggressively promoted the Internet for commercial purposes. As of April, China had more than 38 million Internet users and nearly 280,000 Web sites, according to the official Xinhua News Agency.

Yet the Communist Party is determined to curtail the Web's role as a forum of free discussion and source of information not available in the entirely government-controlled media.

A special police force monitors Web sites and sifts e-mail searching for messages promoting causes such as greater political openness, the banned Falun Gong ( news - web sites) spiritual movement and independence for minority regions. Web sites of human rights groups and Western and Taiwanese media are frequently blocked.

Internet cafes are required to track sites their users visit and report attempts to open those deemed subversive. Long prison sentences have been given to people accused of reproducing or forwarding information from such sites.

"They're trying to have it both ways. It's a difficult game to play, but they seem to be doing a not inconsiderable job of it," said Jack Balkin, a Yale University law professor who studies the Internet.

China has also closed thousands of Internet cafes since a fire June 16 at a cafe in Beijing that killed 25 people.

The Beijing-based Internet Society of China describes itself as a private, national self-governing body for the Chinese Internet sector. Its 140 members drawn from private companies, schools and research institutes, according to the society's Web site.

A spokesman for Yahoo!'s China office in Beijing confirmed the company had signed the pledge but refused to comment further. Yahoo!'s public relations agency in the United States, where the company cultivates an image of freedom and anarchic creativity, responded to an e-mail seeking comment by saying no spokesman was available.

Other portals ( news - web sites) the society listed as having signed the pledge include the popular Chinese Websites Sina.com and Sohu.com, as well as Peking and Tsinghua universities, online media and technology companies and government offices.


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"China has also closed thousands of Internet cafes since a fire June 16 at a cafe in Beijing that killed 25 people."

In the name of safety and security no doubt.

1 posted on 07/15/2002 2:48:02 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise
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To: *China stuff
Index Bump
2 posted on 07/15/2002 2:53:12 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: BlessingInDisguise
Yahoo!, collaborators with the oppresive communist regime in China, in their quest to keep information contrary to the official government line out of the hands of the Chinese people. This is an outrage. Write Yahoo! an e-mail expressing your outrage, and if they don't comply, vote with your feet. REMEMBER TIANANMEN SQUARE!!!!
3 posted on 07/15/2002 2:53:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480
>>Yahoo!, collaborators with the oppresive communist regime in China

Yahoo!China is a Chiense company. It has to abide by the Chinese law.

4 posted on 07/15/2002 3:22:41 PM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
*Poof*--now morality is defined by national law! What a turn-around! Yahoo nods and winks at its hosting of child pornography chat rooms here in the US, but that's a free speech issue even though it's illegal. But in China, Yahoo simply has their hands tied because they have no choice but to obey the government of the country in which they are operating--they won't even offer literature which criticizes communism or the corrupt leaders who run socialist regimes.

Moral relativism makes less sense everyday.

5 posted on 07/15/2002 4:18:11 PM PDT by Egg
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To: Egg
Its just one more reason to abandon the China Dream and move along to something more real. Get 'em out of China.
6 posted on 07/15/2002 10:13:43 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Lake
Yahoo!China is a Chiense company. It has to abide by the Chinese law.

If Yahoo! China is a Chinese company, how about we outlaw their access to all US capital.

American money should not fund CCP values.

When they do not get any more money from the US, directly or indirectly, to run this kind of operation, then they might be considered "owned by the Chinese"...

7 posted on 07/15/2002 10:24:32 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Lake
The CCP is trying to impose its values on the international business community.
8 posted on 07/15/2002 10:26:09 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: BlessingInDisguise
China is trying to experiment with a limited amount of economic freedom, while restricting other freedoms. I wonder if it will work. They will have some degree of success.

The vast majority are still very poor. I don't see how any nation can be prosperous without property rights as of yet. See exhibit A below:

Most areas of the globe without property rights, such as North Korea, Cuba, Haiti, etc, don't have lights, either, which is indicative of poverty.Some areas are not so bright because of a lack of population, however. But If China is so populated, why is it mostly dark?

What do you think?

9 posted on 07/15/2002 11:20:32 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999
Looks like India is richer than the western part of the US.
10 posted on 07/16/2002 1:12:14 AM PDT by Lake
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To: BlessingInDisguise
"China has also closed thousands of Internet cafes since a fire June 16 at a cafe in Beijing that killed 25 people."

I think someone rearranged the sentence, makes more sense as...

China has killed 25 people in Beijing with a fire in the closing of thousands of Internet cafes since June 16.

That sounds more like the ChiCom's methods.

11 posted on 07/16/2002 6:41:50 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: Dec31,1999
China has a good deal of lit areas. The dark areas are very mountainous.

But look at North Korea, you can't find it unless you know where to look, very dark.

12 posted on 07/16/2002 6:43:54 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: maui_hawaii
If Yahoo! China is a Chinese company, how about we outlaw their access to all US capital.

The technologies of Internet screening should be export-controlled, as they have no real use other than to help prop up governments that are opposed to our way of life.

13 posted on 07/16/2002 10:45:41 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Lake
Yahoo!China is a Chiense company. It has to abide by the Chinese law.

If "Yahoo China" is franchised by our domestic "Yahoo", - even to the extent of the latter giving permission to the former to use its name - the domestic Yahoo is complicit in the oppression and should be boycotted.

14 posted on 07/16/2002 3:36:51 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: BlessingInDisguise
Thanks for this post.

I am currently in China, and it takes FOREVER to access Yahoo! Now I know why.

FreeRepublic, by the way, comes up immediately. Good to be "home". I'm relying on FR for the news of what's really going on in the world.

I'll be here as long as they don't pull the pl..............................

15 posted on 07/18/2002 7:46:35 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: Lake
Thats odd, India is supposed to be a 3rd world nation, yet according to this "lights theory", they seem to be a hell of alot better of then most of the world.
16 posted on 07/19/2002 2:20:25 AM PDT by Sonny M
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To: BlessingInDisguise
Bet you won't find this anywhere in the Chinese Yahoo sites:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
17 posted on 07/19/2002 5:32:14 AM PDT by Smocker
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To: wai-ming
How are you accessing Free Republic from inside of China? Don't the internet providers report you if you try to access this site or something?
18 posted on 07/19/2002 2:21:37 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise
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To: Dec31,1999
At what (local) time are those pictures taken, and during what part of the year? I'd say the amount of light at 3:00am is perhaps less meaningful than the amount at 8:00pm.
19 posted on 07/20/2002 3:34:14 PM PDT by supercat
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To: BlessingInDisguise
Thanks for your response.

I've been to China several times in the past year. FreeRepublic has always been easy to access.

Can't say the same for Yahoo! Totally inaccessible right now.

20 posted on 07/21/2002 11:56:59 PM PDT by wai-ming
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