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Capital City Of Ancient Superpower Discovered (Medes)
Independent (UK) ^ | 10-26-2002 | David Keys

Posted on 10/26/2002 12:56:48 PM PDT by blam

Capital city of ancient superpower discovered

By David Keys Archaeology Correspondent
26 October 2002

British archaeologists have discovered a capital city of one of the ancient world's most mysterious superpowers.

The metropolis, covering more than a square mile, was the main western administrative centre of the ancient Median Empire, a vast Middle Eastern imperial state which flourished in the first half of the 6th century BC between the fall of the Assyrian empire and the rise of Persia.

The discovery reveals the sheer scale of the threat which would soon be posed to Europe by the ancient Middle East. For the Medes' westward ambitions led directly to the invasion of Greece in the early 5th century BC by their imperial heirs, the Persians.

The archaeologists, led by Dr Geoffrey Summers, found the Medes built their western capital, Pteria, on conquered land near the border of their empire. The metropolis was a huge citadel on a 5000ft mountain near what is now the Turkish town of Sorgun.

It had four miles of massive stone walls and hundreds of defensive towers. Seven monumental gateways and hundreds of buildings, including an imperial palace, have been found. But not one hole has been excavated. Dr Summers' team used remote sensing and geophysical survey techniques to map the metropolis to an accuracy of 10 centimetres.


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Big find.
1 posted on 10/26/2002 12:56:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: LostTribe; RightWhale
Ping.
2 posted on 10/26/2002 12:57:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
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3 posted on 10/26/2002 1:01:37 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: blam
Capital City Of Ancient Superpower Discovered

Built by Aliens.....
4 posted on 10/26/2002 1:05:17 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow; PatrickHenry; Junior
Interesting archaeological discovery ping!
5 posted on 10/26/2002 1:48:04 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: blam
>...flourished in the first half of the 6th century BC between the fall of the Assyrian empire and the rise of Persia.

Excellent find. I hope they find more evidence there like the

Assyrian Tablets in the British Museum which were so instrumental in finally nailing down the whereabouts of the Lost Tribes of Israel.

6 posted on 10/26/2002 1:52:26 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Interesting, yes. But I guess we'll just have to wait about 50 years until they dig up the place and find some written tablets to add to our stock of information.
7 posted on 10/26/2002 3:13:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: LostTribe
Finally, finally, I received my copy yesterday.
8 posted on 10/26/2002 4:23:33 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
>Finally, finally, I received my copy yesterday.

Hope you enjoy having your own copy. It's cheaper than a trip to the British Museum. (But not as much fun...)

9 posted on 10/26/2002 4:46:31 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
"Hope you enjoy having your own copy. "

Yup. It's a nice hard bound copy, not the 'cheap' one like in your photo. (smile)

10 posted on 10/26/2002 4:54:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
WOW
11 posted on 10/26/2002 5:07:55 PM PDT by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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To: blam
>Yup. It's a nice hard bound copy, not the 'cheap' one like in your photo. (smile)

I was wondering where all the money was these days... {ggg}.

12 posted on 10/26/2002 5:19:16 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
"I was wondering where all the money was these days... {ggg}."

LOL, it wasn't a month ago that you were implying that I was 'cheap' for checking it out of the library (twice), so....

13 posted on 10/26/2002 5:29:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: All
Anybody want to dumb this down for the Historically Challenged?
14 posted on 10/26/2002 5:32:30 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: the-ironically-named-proverbs2
Tried to find Sorgun, Turkey on a map- it must be the equivalent of Springfield in the USA. Mapquest gave 12 different locations in Turkey.
15 posted on 10/26/2002 5:43:54 PM PDT by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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To: Johnny Shear
I'll try.

The Assyrian war machine had terrorized the Levant for centuries. But one problem with creating a good war machine is that sooner or later your undestroyed enemies learn to copy your tactics. To the east the Assyrians shattered the Elamites, leaving a power vaccuum to be filled by a new people, the Medes. To the south a new people, the Chaldeans filled the power vaccum the Assyrians had made of Babylon. The Medes and Chaldeans formed an alliance and destroyed Assyria.

For a time the Chaldeans under their greatest king Nebuchadnezzar prospered. Then the Medes merged with a new people, the Persians, destroyed the Chaldeans, freed the Jews, and conquered the entire Middle East.
16 posted on 10/26/2002 7:25:19 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Tokhtamish
Then the Medes merged with a new people, the Persians, destroyed the Chaldeans, freed the Jews, and conquered the entire Middle East.

For a while...until they in turn were destroyed by the Greeks under the incomparable young man named Alexander.

17 posted on 10/26/2002 7:29:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Tokhtamish
>... freed the Jews

Actually, freed the Northern Kingdom Israelites. The Southern Kingdom, remnants of which in another hundred years or so would become known as Jews, were still back in Canaan, awaiting their own capture and removal to Babylon and subsequent diapora.

18 posted on 10/27/2002 9:14:25 AM PST by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
>Actually, freed the Northern Kingdom Israelites.

To be even more accurate, the Northern Kingdom Israelites joined with the Medes and Persians to overthrow the Assyrians. They participated in their own freedom.

After the victory these Israelites "took counsel among themselves" and decided to NOT return to Canaan. Instead, they decided to get out of Dodge the only other way possible, to the North through the Caucasus Mountains (from which comes their name Caucasians) and West around the southern coast of the Black Sea.

This was a fortuitous decision, for if they had returned to join their Southern Kingdom cousins in Judea they probably would have been caught up in the Babylonian conquest and history would read a whole lot different. (They might even have been called Jews, like their cousins, since they would have come from Judea [or thereabouts]). {ggg}.

19 posted on 10/27/2002 9:21:33 AM PST by LostTribe
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To: blam
The archaeologists, led by Dr Geoffrey Summers, found the Medes built their western capital, Pteria, on conquered land near the border of their empire. The metropolis was a huge citadel on a 5000ft mountain near what is now the Turkish town of Sorgun.

It had four miles of massive stone walls and hundreds of defensive towers. Seven monumental gateways and hundreds of buildings, including an imperial palace, have been found. But not one hole has been excavated. Dr Summers' team used remote sensing and geophysical survey techniques to map the metropolis to an accuracy of 10 centimetres.

Stupid question #46:
If no actual excavation has been done, how do they know it was a Capital city of the Medes? It could be anyone without evidence gathered during excavation of the site.

Along the same lines, without digging, how do they know it is an imperial palace there?

20 posted on 10/27/2002 9:53:11 AM PST by Mr_Magoo
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To: Mr_Magoo
I'll venture a guess:

Known history and surface artifacts.

21 posted on 10/27/2002 11:39:22 AM PST by blam
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23 posted on 08/04/2004 11:09:01 PM PDT by VOA
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To: blam

This find may be of interest to the descendents of the Medes, the Kurds. It may also resurrect that horrible pun, "One man's Mede is another man's Persion." Whoops! It just did!


24 posted on 08/04/2004 11:24:28 PM PDT by John McDonnell
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Pingggggggggggggg


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