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McCarthyism - The Right's Badge Of Honor
PipeBombNews ^ | May 20. 2003 | William A. Mayer

Posted on 05/20/2003 6:27:57 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic

McCarthyism - The Right's Badge Of Honor

By William A. Mayer

On Monday May 5, 2003 over 4,200 pages of previously classified testimony, made before the 1953-1954 Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations, became available to the public. These hearings [although some of the thunder had already been stolen during the 1948 - 1949 Nixon chaired HUAC sessions] delved further into the charges that the Soviet Union had placed intelligence agents - spies - throughout the Democrat administrations of both FDR and Harry Truman. The Committee’s lighting rod chairman at the time was the Republican Senator from Wisconsin, Joseph P. McCarthy.

The presentation of the 50 year old documents was debuted within the touchy feely framework that Republicans, as if operating under some curse, somehow are convinced will win them the respect of Democrats - of course, nothing could be further from the truth.

One of the reasons for the timorous manner in which this subject is handled is the nuclear fallout, which the liberal press has rained upon the GOP during the years following the period where communist spy networks freely infiltrated the government.

Push a liberal far enough into a corner during a political argument and the charge “McCarthyism” will not be far from his lips. He will use the word as an epithet, inferring that an attack has been unfair – based on slander and innuendo.

The American public has little understanding of - and unfortunately little appetite for - the true extent of the Soviet intelligence operation that was undertaken against them, and which most likely still continues.

But understanding the conspiracy – to the best of our ability considering the sobering but still imperfect evidence so far available - that was hatched within the Soviet Union may help us to understand the nature of many important questions still facing us.

Oddly, the least of these may be to gain some realization of the degree to which FDR - and later Truman - compromised this nation’s security via the self-serving dismissal of information provided by people like Whittaker Chambers’ [and others] whose warnings of wholesale Soviet intelligence’s infiltration into their administrations were manifestly correct.

The model the Soviets used for much of the information gathering was to identifying sources of information, people who by their station in life had access to important knowledge, and then placing agents near them who transmitted it up-line through their handlers and eventually to the Soviet intelligence leadership.

In FDR’s administration there were two types of sources - those that willingly knew their information flowed to Moscow:

“Secretary of the Treasury Harry Dexter White, State Department Office Of Special Political Affairs Alger Hiss, White House assistant to the President Lauchlin Currie and top scientists in the Manhattan Project.” - Jerold & Leona Schecter, Sacred Secrets p.32

And those, who because of personal inattention to security, ideological makeup and a host of complicating factors, allowed the most vital national security information to end up in the hands of a mortal enemy:

“They included Eleanor Roosevelt and FDR himself.” - Jerold & Leona Schecter, Sacred Secrets p.32

As to the above referenced top scientists in the Manhattan Project?

“...I set up a network of illegals who convinced Robert Oppenheimer, Enrico Fermi, Leo Szilard, Bruno Pontecorvo, Alan Nunn May, Klaus Fuchs and other scientists in America and Great Britain to share atomic secrets with us.” - Pavel Sudaplatov, Special Tasks p. 3

Sudaplatov attained the rank of General officer in the NKVD/KGB. A thoroughly unapologetic Stalinist [even after 20 years in Soviet prison – framed as having been involved with “anti-Soviet” intrigue with Stalin & Khrushchev’s bitter rival, Lavrenti Beria], one of his “special tasks” found him responsible for running the operation that tracked down and killed Leon Trotsky in Mexico in 1940.

The greatest benefit of this new scholarship – in the here and now - may be to help us understand how our current enemy, radical Islamic terror, may use similar methods in establishing underground networks in furtherance of their aims and how the now in vogue promotion of cultural diversity by the left is so potentially damaging to our security.

“You in the West have your weaknesses as well. The diversity in America, the plethora of foreign-born immigrant communities within your population, are the pride of your melting pot. Yet within these communities we were able to enlist thousands of agents ready to destroy you in case war broke out between us.” - Pavel Sudaplatov, Special Tasks p. 4

The depth of Soviet infiltration into the various governmental agencies - Department of State, Treasury, Department of Defense and the foreign policy making apparatus of the US during particularly hallowed Democrat administrations not only proves that McCarthy’s charges were correct, but that he erred on the side of conservatism in his accusations.

The firestorm that Tail Gunner Joe created did not ensue because of any great analytical ability, nor was it the result of his bringing to bear an extraordinarily high intellect; what defined him was having the intestinal fortitude to state what was obvious at that point.

The evidence that the Soviet Union was engaged in an all out effort to destroy American national security during the Cold War is irrefutable, and these newly vetted documents simply add more fuel to an already considerable fire.

The primary substantiation comes from two sources - declassified intelligence documents assembled by a top secret 1943 Army Signal Intelligence project code named the Venona Project and recently declassified NKVD/GRU/KGB documents after the fall of the Soviet Union.

At the same time the FBI was interviewing people with first hand knowledge of the Soviet effort, people like Whittaker Chambers [who fingered Alger Hiss as being a communist spy], whose warning to Roosevelt - in 1939 - were totally disregarded.

Chambers’ information provided valuable confirmation for the facts established in the deciphered Soviet spy traffic and allowed the project to move forward.

What Venona and modern Soviet intelligence scholarship established was proof - beyond even unreasonable doubt - that the basic charges made by McCarthy, Richard Nixon and the much-maligned anti-communists were absolute and unimpeachable.

“…the more we learn about communism in America, the more McCarthy is proven to have been accurate in his charges. Many people in the State Department truly were security risks; there were individual cases of spies and traitors; and there were many sympathizers with influence over American foreign policy. Based on information not available while the man behind these claims was being condemned…” - Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Re-examining The Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator. As reviewed by the publisher, Simon & Schuster.

Lets take the case of just one of the players - J. Robert Oppenheimer - a brilliant physicist, scientific director of Los Alamos Laboratory and the man charged with overseeing the Manhattan Project.

Just one minor problem, he was a known traitor.

Even a brief examination of Oppenheimer's record reveals just how criminally lax FDR, Truman and the Democrats were regarding security.

J. [Julius] Robert Oppenheimer, his brother [Frank] and his wife [Katherine] were members of the Communist Party USA.

Robert Oppenheimer contributed 150 dollars a month to the Communist Party [Sacred Secrets reproduces an FBI document attesting to that in Appendix 1]. Frank denied party membership until 1949, then admitted to being a member from 1937 to the early 1940’s. Katherine was a long time communist as well and was previously married to Joseph Dallet a Communist Party functionary who was killed in Spain fighting for the communist led left-wing anti-Franco forces.

Oppenheimer is mentioned in a top secret KGB/NKVD communication:

“In 1942 one of the leaders of scientific work on uranium in the USA, Professor R. Oppenheimer while being an unlisted [nglastny]member of the apparatus of Comrade Browder informed us about the beginning of work. On the request of Kheifetz, confirmed by Comrade Browder, he provided cooperation in access to research for several of our tested sources including a relative of Comrade Browder…Due to complications…it is expedient to immediately sever contacts of leaders and activist of the American Communist Party with scientists and specialists engaged in work on uranium.” Sacred Secrets p. 50

Oppenheimer was a communist party member [until 1942 when the Soviets advised him to cease his above ground relationship - which is precisely the time he left the CPUSA], his brother was a communist, his wife was a communist, his friends were communists and Soviet agents. He held Communist Party meetings in his Berkeley, CA residence and he intentionally enabled the most confidential, most important clandestine government project in US history to be penetrated by Soviet intelligence, arrogantly deciding by himself to "share the bomb" with Stalin.

Much of the same type of information, though obviously, not so specific led to the revocation of Oppenheimer’s security clearance in 1954 during the Eisenhower administration, a decision which to this day "shocks" the liberal intelligentsia.

Many, not conversant in the more recent literature surrounding Soviet intelligence gathering in this country will be dumfounded by the Oppenheimer case. That is understandable given the media’s distaste for spreading injurious information regarding the left and an educational system intent on hiding this sort of messy affair.

What is most troubling is that Oppenheimer was not alone - not by a long shot. He was joined by Fuchs, Fermi, White, Hiss and hundreds of others who were betraying their country in plain view of leftist American administrations.

When Nixon and McCarthy made their charges public, the content was already old news to those in the know.

In November of 1945 the FBI advised the Truman Administration that Harry Dexter White - Assistant Treasury Secty., Dr. Gregory Silvermaster - Dept. of Agriculture, George Silverman - War Dept., Lauchlin Currie – Assistant to President FDR, Donald Wheeler – OSS [the wartime CIA ], Helen Tenney – OSS, Maurice Halperin – OSS, Capt. William Ullman – US Army, Lt. Col. John H. Reynolds, Julius Joseph – OSS and others were communicating with Soviet intelligence agents.

To expand, ever so slightly, on just one example of the treasonous level of indifference by Democrat administrations, the above mentioned Harry Dexter White - after successfully conspiring to smuggle official US Treasury Dept. printing plates for German marks to the Soviets - and one month after the FBI White House warning – Truman nominated White to be the United States' first representative to the International Monetary Fund.

“Give ‘em Hell” Harry refused withdraw the nomination because it was deemed essential to winning New York in the 1948 election.

So that was and continues to be the bottom line - winning elections no matter what the cost to the nation, criminal negligence that could very easily have destroyed America and a permanently entrenched left-wing fifth column.

One can only hope there are places hot enough in hell for the souls of these people.

Appendix: At the beginning of this piece we mentioned the recently declassified Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations documents, here are some brief excerpts from the testimony of CPUSA functionary, Paul Crouch, p. 1834 -1841, concerning J. Robert Oppenheimer. Bracketed [ ] text is offered for purposes of clarification.

"Chairman - Were you a top functionary of the party?


Crouch - Yes...I was a full time organizer for 15 years [1925 -1942]

Chairman - What were some of the positions you held...?


Crouch - I was a representative of the Young Communist League and the Communist Party of the United States to the meetings of the executive committee of the Communist International, Young Communist International, Moscow...I was an honorary officer of the Red Army...a member of the editorial staff of the Daily Worker...a district organizer...in Virginia, New York and South Carolina, Tennessee and Utah; member of the district bureau in the Alabama district and the California district, Alameda County [CA] organizer, 1941...

Chairman - ...and you were informed by two Justice Dept. lawyers that you would not be used because if you were...you would have to identify Robert J. Oppenheimer? [as a member of the CPUSA]


Crouch - To that effect, yes sir.

Chairman - Is there any doubt in your mind that Oppenheimer was a member of the Communist Party?


Crouch - No, sir, none whatever. I met him in a closed meeting of the Communist Party in a house which was subsequently found to have been his residence at the time...and following that I met him at quite a number of Communist Party affairs in Alameda County.

Chairman - Is there any doubt in your mind that but that Oppenheimer was under Communist party discipline at the time...?


Crouch - No, sir, none whatever

Chairman - And naturally they would be interested in any atomic information he had?


Crouch - Yes, sir. Just as a matter of fact, the Communist Party might have chosen to direct him to turn over the information; they might have chosen to direct him to appoint other Communists to key positions who would in turn, turn over the information. It is a matter of record that Dr. Oppenheimer has appointed many Communists to key positions to the atomic energy program..."

Go ye forth, and set the record straight my friends - you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

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The best short article I have ever read on just what went on in the events surrounding McCarthy, Hess and the rest.
1 posted on 05/20/2003 6:27:57 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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2 posted on 05/20/2003 6:34:36 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If common sense is so common, why is it so difficult to find it?)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
You got it!
3 posted on 05/20/2003 6:39:58 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
bttt
4 posted on 05/20/2003 7:04:46 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
McCarthy was right all along!
5 posted on 05/20/2003 8:03:30 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman
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To: johnqueuepublic
The American public has little understanding of - and unfortunately little appetite for - the true extent of the Soviet intelligence operation that was undertaken against them, and which most likely still continues.

Doesn't take much stretch of the imagination. The A.N.S.W.E.R. is out there.

6 posted on 05/20/2003 8:24:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: upcountryhorseman
yep
7 posted on 05/20/2003 8:25:08 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: NormsRevenge
Good line!
8 posted on 05/20/2003 8:25:27 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
where is everyone today?
9 posted on 05/20/2003 9:45:11 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
give me more
10 posted on 05/20/2003 10:09:45 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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...“You in the West have your weaknesses as well. The diversity in America, the plethora of foreign-born immigrant communities within your population, are the pride of your melting pot. Yet within these communities we were able to enlist thousands of agents ready to destroy you in case war broke out between us.” - Pavel Sudaplatov, Special Tasks p. 4 ...

That is the single best reason for resisting the new zeitigeist of "diversity" tolerance and inclusion in the new America.

11 posted on 05/20/2003 10:21:06 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: johnqueuepublic; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; madfly; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Sabertooth; Askel5
The best short article I have ever read on just what went on in the events surrounding McCarthy, Hess and the rest.

Outstanding work. Clear, compelling, and concise.

12 posted on 05/20/2003 10:30:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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Thanks for the ping on this excellent article.
13 posted on 05/20/2003 10:38:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has The NY Slimes ever printed the truth in your life time?)
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To: johnqueuepublic; DPB101
Thanks John for posting this excellent article.

DPB101, you will probably enjoy this.
14 posted on 05/20/2003 10:40:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has The NY Slimes ever printed the truth in your life time?)
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To: Travis McGee
Travis more good info about the role the commies have had in America since the 1930's.
15 posted on 05/20/2003 10:41:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has The NY Slimes ever printed the truth in your life time?)
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To: backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach
A ping for two of our best indexers.

As these storie come out, this will be a fascinating story to follow.
16 posted on 05/20/2003 10:42:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has The NY Slimes ever printed the truth in your life time?)
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Even PBS's series "NOVA" has an episode that says McCarthy was right about the
Communist infiltration of the US government (just wrong about who the perps were)...
I think the episode was titled something like "Secrets, Lies and Atomic Spies".
17 posted on 05/20/2003 11:01:14 AM PDT by VOA
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Travis more good info about the role the commies have had in America since the 1930's.

Try the 1850s.

18 posted on 05/20/2003 11:14:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Grampa Dave
And today the FBI and CIA are recruiting thousands of "loyal" Arab Muslims to "help" us in the war on terror.

BIG MISTAKE!!!!!

19 posted on 05/20/2003 11:16:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: johnqueuepublic
The Political Correct movement is far worse than anything that the Left accused McCarthy of doing. The Communists in today's Democrat Party are those who are pretending to be Socialists hiding behind the Liberal label.
20 posted on 05/20/2003 11:25:38 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Grampa Dave
Hello, Dave... I put this together a while back:

Tailgunner Joe--Patriot Whistleblower or Right-Wing Witch-hunter?

21 posted on 05/20/2003 12:17:07 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: johnqueuepublic
bttt
22 posted on 05/20/2003 12:17:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: VOA
Even PBS's series "NOVA" has an episode that says McCarthy was right about the Communist infiltration of the US government (just wrong about who the perps were).

He was not "right" in any meaningful sense of the word, any more than a quack who feeds people snake oil is "right" when one of his patients happens to recover. Basically, his accusations were the equivalent of tabloid psychic predictions that occasionally score lucky hits -- and did great damage to the cause of legitimate and rational investigation into real Communist infiltration.

23 posted on 05/20/2003 12:20:45 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Grampa Dave; dix; NormsRevenge; liberalnot
Thing for the flag. More of Crouch's testimony:

>Mr Crouch . . .There are many other Communists who were employed by Dr. Oppenheimer and also, according to the California committee's information, Dr. Oppenheimer was active in urging atomic scientists to join a Communist espionage apparatus called the FAECT--Federation of Architects, Engineers, Chemists, and Technicians--headed by Marcel Scherer, who had been trained in the espionage schools in Moscow and who had been in charge of infiltration of scientists since 1928, to my personal knowledge.

The Chairman. This FAECT was headed by a man who went to the Moscow School of Espionage and Sabotage?

Mr. Crouch. Yes.

The. Chairman. That is the Lenin school?

Mr. Crouch. Yes.

The Chairman. Where is he now, do you know?

Mr. Crouch. He is in New York City at the present time.

The Chairman. Is he connected with atomic work now, do you know?

Mr. Crouch. I don't know.

The Chairman. What is his name?

Mr. Crouch. Marcel Scherer.

The Chairman. Oh, yes.

Mr. Crouch. I personally participated in discussions that set up this apparatus for scientific espionage in 1928 and was present at discussions between Scherer and William Z. Foster, and Scherer and Communist international representatives from Moscow, when this project was approved.

Julius Rosenberg was a member of FAECT. David Bohm, who worked on the Manhattan project was an active member of the FAECT as well. He took the fifth when called before Congress. Perhaps because of Albert Einstein's support, Bohm was acquitted of contempt of Congress. He left America and did well teaching in Brazil, Israel and finally the UK.

Communists of that era in their own words:

The Albert & Vera Weisbord Foundation Archives

Haven't read it all but "Afro-American Guerilla Warfare (Draft)" is chilling. I. The Fascist Tendencies of Roosevelt. is more amusing (and not that off target).

24 posted on 05/20/2003 12:49:04 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: steve-b
Basically, his accusations were the equivalent of tabloid psychic predictions that occasionally
score lucky hits...


Which is why PBS said that McCarthy was dead wrong when he pointed the finger at
individual targets. He totally blew that assignment.


...and did great damage to the cause of legitimate and rational investigation
into real Communist infiltration.


The PBS NOVA episode also discussed this, in light of the inherent conflict between
the "need to know" for an oversight body such as the Congress and a "need to keep secret"
investigative agency such as the FBI or CIA.

IIRC, the tone the NOVA special took in this area was that maybe the FBI/CIA should have
let McCarthy in on a bit of what they actually knew...I suppose with the thought
McCarthy might quiet down, knowing the infiltators were being watched.
How much good that would have done? I suspect that sharing secrets with an alcoholic
guy searching for the spotlight...probably would have led to worse consequences.

McCarthy did lots of damage, not only in ruining the lives of many innocents
and also making anti-Communists a target of ridicule.


But, all said and done, it did freak me out to hear PBS, often an outlet for apologists
for Communists, conclude that McCarthy's ranting about Communist infilitrators
in the US government did reflect what has been learned from many sources, such
as the Venona intercepts.

In McCarthy's case, it was a real-life case of what Woody Allen once said:
"Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."
25 posted on 05/20/2003 1:43:32 PM PDT by VOA
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To: DPB101
Through manipulation only the communists of that era escaped from the executions they deserved.

As the one link recounted, they bragged about coming South to unionize in spite of the fact they lied to the workers about supporting them and also murdered law enforcement folk. Now I understand why so many workers in the South hate unions, it is because of the crimes of the immoral and unprincipled commie union leaders.
26 posted on 05/20/2003 2:13:06 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: VOA
McCarthy did lots of damage, not only in ruining the lives of many innocents .. .

Such as?

The first Hollywood blacklist was a decade before McCarthy by communists against those not in the party. It was vicious. Rumors were floated that those who didn't go along with the party line supported Hitler.

The first Congressional "witch hunt" was led by Samuel Dickstein (D-NY) against German Americans, anti-communists and those opposed to entering WWII. Dickstein was a KGB agent (code name:crook). When he chaired an immigration committee, he sold Soviet agents visas. He was never chastised, never caught and his name never became a household word.

Btw...the word "McCarthyism" was coined by the Communist Party USA and first appeared in print in the Daily Worker.

27 posted on 05/20/2003 2:22:08 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
Thanks for the ping and for being such a great resource on this issue. Thanks for sharing with us!
28 posted on 05/20/2003 3:09:26 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has The NY Slimes ever printed the truth in your life time?)
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To: johnqueuepublic
We need to stop running from McCarthy. We need to aggressively dig back into the archives of that era, and put it all out on the table. All of it, of course.

We need to clearly document the Soviet death toll, we need to document for a new generation the how and who of Soviet espionage, and how high and how deep it reached. It actually is a fascinating story.

We need to document for a new generation how it affected our wartime agreements. We need to document how much of Hollywood then, as now, sided with genocide against their own country. How many of the Democrats were open traitors. All of this needs to be explored. McCarthy was a flawed vessel as are we all. But he was not a Stalinist. And most of his targets were.
29 posted on 05/20/2003 3:56:10 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
We need to aggressively dig back into the archives of that era, and put it all out on the table

I agree 100%. Noticed that liberals go boinkers when this topic is mentioned. They have no defense. That is why the "so-called" Senate historian tried to spin the release of these transcripts and handed out talking points for all the media to use. I don't think one journalist in a hundred actually read the testimony. I've written to half a dozen reporters from small town papers across America asking if they read the transcript before writing their hit piece on McCarthy. Not one has answered yet.

The transcripts are devastating and puncture all the liberal myths about McCarthy. He didn't badger witnesses, he protected the animonity of gays, over and over he warned those testifying that being in the CPUSA was no crime but lying about it was and if they simply told the truth, he would see nobody knew they had been party members. And he kept his word. This thread might interest you:

Thirteenth Report of the Senate Fact-Finding Subcommittee on Un-American Activities--California

The report, from 1965, was sealed until a few years ago (2000, I believe). It lays out in detail how the student protests at Berkeley and other CA universities--as well as around the world--were organized in the Kremlin.Lots of names we know, including Treuhalf--the Stalinist lawyer who hired Hillary Clinton as an intern.

30 posted on 05/20/2003 4:10:45 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: johnqueuepublic
It's hard to believe, but there are actually still people in this country today pushing the lie that Alger Hiss was innocent of any wrongdoing, even though they know better. These people may not be traitors, but they come pretty damn close in my book.
31 posted on 05/20/2003 4:11:56 PM PDT by jpl
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To: johnqueuepublic
“…the more we learn about communism in America, the more McCarthy is proven to have been accurate in his charges. Many people in the State Department truly were security risks; there were individual cases of spies and traitors; and there were many sympathizers with influence over American foreign policy. Based on information not available while the man behind these claims was being condemned…” - Arthur Herman, Joseph McCarthy: Re-examining The Life and Legacy of America’s Most Hated Senator. As reviewed by the publisher, Simon & Schuster.

I believe we are in the same position right now, maybe Newt was trying to get this point across a few weeks ago when he suggested a shakeup of the State Dept. Collin Powel did Bush I in and it looks like he's about to do the same thing to W.
32 posted on 05/20/2003 4:19:30 PM PDT by John Lenin (Government does not solve problems, it subsidizes them)
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To: Maelstrom
Read the Sacred Secrets & Special Tasks along with the McCarthy memoirs as well as the newly declassified stuff which is available in pdf format at senate.gov or whatever their site addy is.
33 posted on 05/20/2003 5:28:54 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Its pretty compelling, sudaplatov is an old commie who just happens to tell the truth on this item.
34 posted on 05/20/2003 5:29:53 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Carry_Okie
I agree.
35 posted on 05/20/2003 5:30:20 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Grampa Dave
My pleasure, I'm just a fan.
36 posted on 05/20/2003 5:31:12 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: VOA
Was not aware of that program, like NOVA very much however.
37 posted on 05/20/2003 5:32:11 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Consort
I think socialism naturally progresses and becomes more and more intollerant, thats where we are today, intollerant socialist who say they want diversity except for the christians,gun rights people, the patriots, traditionalists, monotheists, nuclear families, anti baby killers etc.
38 posted on 05/20/2003 5:36:03 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: steve-b
I think you are wrong, McCarthy said there tremendous commie influences in the fed gov and that is exactly what was the case.
39 posted on 05/20/2003 5:37:50 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: marron
I fully agree.

One thing this essay didnt get into, probably for lack of space, jeeeez who wants to read a 5,000 word editorial....is that Alger Hiss briefed the Soviets right before Yalta so they totally new our negotiating positions.

That combined with Roosevelts soft headedness with regard to Stalin sunk us into the cold war.
40 posted on 05/20/2003 5:40:06 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: jpl
I hear some lib making that charge nearly every week.





41 posted on 05/20/2003 5:43:31 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
Good post. McCarthy went after the ancestors of today's neo-cons who rode the democrat party and Communism to pursue world dominance. That failed.
Today whoever opposes world dominance neo-cons, now infiltrating the Republican party, gets the same smear treatment that McCarthy received.
42 posted on 05/20/2003 5:56:30 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need balanced trade - WE BUY FROM YOU, YOU BUY FROM US)
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To: ex-snook
I dont think i understand your point fully.

Neocon seems to be a term used by the left for supporters of Israel and I dont see how they are comparable to commies.

Like I said probably missed the point.
43 posted on 05/20/2003 6:44:45 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic; Grampa Dave
Apparently Trotskyite Jews have taken over the GOP. The 95% of Republicans and around 60% of Democrats who supported the war in Iraq have been brainwashed by the "neocon" Trotskyite Jews in the Bush administration.

And you thought Cheney and "Big Oil" were running Bush.

Seriously ...if anyone knows the orginal source on the "neocon Trotskyite Jew" theory of current affairs, I would appreciate a link. It is all over left wing websites but I haven't been able to track down who started it.

44 posted on 05/20/2003 8:16:09 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
That is the silliest statement I have seen on Freep in about a year.

Trotskyite Jews?

Cheney must have hidden his yarmulke, Powell & Rice must be of the sephardic variety, Bush I guess is a trotskyite jew for jesus?

Egads man!

Wolfowitz and Fleischer run the admin?
45 posted on 05/20/2003 9:09:04 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
oh, nevermind.....your humor eluded me,,,,,now i get it...and now i am going to bed.
46 posted on 05/20/2003 9:10:17 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: DPB101
bttt
47 posted on 05/20/2003 9:13:53 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: johnqueuepublic
the los angeles times still runs articles absolving the hollywood communists and blaming republicans.

i wonder if nixon would have continued his presidency if he has not involved himself with the huac investigations, and had not colored helen douglas as "pink"? nixon was always paranoid of the u.s. state department, and for good reason. meanwhile, the american media infiltrated by leftists was out to get him.

hollywood has yet to make a movie admitting the success of america and the downfall of the soviet union.

48 posted on 05/20/2003 9:21:40 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: johnqueuepublic; Free the USA; ATOMIC_PUNK; Libertarianize the GOP; 2sheep; 4Freedom; Alamo-Girl; ..
Fascinating. This needs a new keyword.

FreeRepublic Bump List: a great source for US History text books for the next generation.

49 posted on 05/20/2003 9:25:47 PM PDT by madfly (Register No-Party for 60 days! or until someone steps up to the plate!)
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To: DPB101
remove me from your bump list!

thanks.
50 posted on 05/20/2003 9:27:39 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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