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The Laci Case Gets Weird
CBS News ^ | May 20, 2003 | Andrew Cohen

Posted on 05/21/2003 5:41:36 AM PDT by runningbear

The Laci case gets weird

The Laci Case Gets Weird

May 20, 2003

Laci and Scott Peterson (AP / CBS)

Amber Frey, the "other woman" in Scott Peterson's life, re-emerged Monday looking (and acting) eerily like Paula Jones.

(CBS) Just when it seemed that the Scott Peterson capital murder case finally had settled into a rhythm of sense and stability it exploded into chaos and absurdity. What had been an increasingly orderly procession toward pretrial proceedings devolved instead over the weekend and Monday into a uniquely Californian freak show.

It is as if the Gods of High-Profile Trials have spoken thus: "Laci Peterson's tragic story not interesting enough anymore for you? Fine. We'll throw into the already horrific storyline the specter of Charles Manson and Paula Jones. And we'll add another 'celebrity lawyer' to the mix because, goodness knows, this story doesn't already have enough of them, either involved in the case itself or yakking about it endlessly and often without shame on the cable news shows.

"And, finally, while we are at it," the Gods have added, "we'll add in that most mesmerizing component of all — the heretofore inconceivable concept that there are and ought to be real doubts about whether Scott Peterson actually killed his wife." While it took God six days to make the world, it has taken these lesser deities roughly half that time to remake the Peterson case into the undisputed champion of tabloid trials; this year's granddaddy of them all. Sorry, Robert Blake, but Scott Peterson and his ex-girlfriend are going to get your close-up.

One week ago, by contrast, there was reason to believe that order had been restored to a case that began with a flurry of post-arrest bedlam. Scott Peterson hired a seasoned defense attorney, Mark Geragos, who promptly used his well-practiced media skills to communicate a version of events about his client that countered the official line offered by the police and prosecutors. Now potential jurors weren't just hearing from, say, California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, who unconscionably said on the day of Peterson's arrest that the case against him was a "slam dunk." Now, the jury pool also was hearing (from someone they are used to hearing from on television) that Scott didn't kill Laci after all.

Not only that, but Geragos got Peterson out of his red jail uniform and back into civilian clothes for the many public pre-trial hearings that are to come; a simple but important step toward reasserting Scott Peterson's presumption of innocence. And most importantly, perhaps, Geragos (with the help of reasonable prosecutors) got certain key evidentiary warrants sealed at a time when their public disclosure might have in turn sealed a perception of Peterson's guilt in the minds of many potential jurors. None of Geragos' moves mean that Peterson is innocent or that he will be acquitted of the serious charges against him. But all of them mean that there will be a smart and vigorous defense in a case that desperately needs one.

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CNN LARRY KING LIVE

Analysis of Scott Peterson's Murder Case

CNN LARRY KING LIVE

Analysis of Scott Peterson's Murder Case

Aired May 19, 2003 - 21:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY FOR AMBER FREY: It's my opinion that what she has to say in testimony will be very important to the case.

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LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight: Scott Peterson's other woman, Amber Frey, hires an attorney. And that attorney, Gloria Allred, is here to discuss her new client's impact on the case. Meanwhile, the search for clues to Laci Peterson's murder continued today in San Francisco Bay amidst word of leaks from the sealed autopsy on Laci Peterson's body and reports of a possible Satanic cult connection. We'll go over it all with Ted Rowlands of KTVU, who's covered the story from the beginning, Court TV's Nancy Grace, a former prosecutor, defense attorney Chris Pixley, Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom, attorney from San Francisco, and defense attorney Nancy Luque. They're all next on LARRY KING LIVE.

Guess what? We're all in Washington tonight, save for Gloria Allred, who's in Los Angeles, and Ted Rowlands, who's in Richmond, California.

Let's start with Gloria. We've heard you over the past few hours describe why your client needs an attorney. Now, you have no standing in the court. The prosecutor will question her. The defense attorney will question her. There will be objections to questioning. The judge will allow what goes in and what doesn't go in. Why does she need a lawyer?

ALLRED: Well, she needs a lawyer, Larry, for two reasons. One, she is also a victim, and victims are entitled to lawyers. She's a victim of Scott Peterson's deception. In addition, she is a witness. And her testimony, we think, is going to be important. And I -- I think that...

KING: What does she need a lawyer for?

ALLRED: ... it's likely that there will be attacks on her reputation, on her credibility, by those who have other agendas in the press, in anticipation of her testimony. And her reputation is very important to her, and I intend to do everything possible to protect it.

KING: But what can a lawyer do to prevent an attack? If someone's going to attack her tomorrow or someone's going to attack her in a courtroom, what can a lawyer do, other than after the fact?

ALLRED: Well, I mean, there's no way we can prevent an attack, but certainly, we can respond and make sure that the truth is out there on the public record. And that's what I intend to do. I intend to protect my client.

KING: Was she smart, Nancy, to hire a lawyer?

NANCY LUQUE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think it was a good thing for her to do, once she put herself in the public domain and made herself a public figure and made herself somebody everybody's talking about. But you're right, Larry, I mean, there's nothing she can do sitting in the courtroom. And presumably, we'll get to the truth of what this woman has to say in a courtroom and only in a courtroom.

KING: Nancy Grace, does she need a lawyer?

NANCY GRACE, COURT TV: Well, Larry, we have seen Amber Frey come under a lot of attacks since she came forward, even to the extent of certain people suggesting she's responsible for Laci's kidnapping and murder. It's way off the charts! So I definitely think that Gloria Allred, who's handled a lot of high-profile cases, can help in this matter. However, you're right, Gloria will not have standing in that criminal court of law come murder trial time. And Amber Frey will have to take the slings and arrows of the defense, and they will come on cross-exam.

KING: Chris, does Amber Frey need a lawyer?

CHRIS PIXLEY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, again, you know, the real question is what good comes of having an attorney representing you when you're a witness in a case like this, Larry? I don't really know right now if -- that there's really any reason. We have not heard from this defense team that they are focusing on Amber Frey. Amber was cleared by the police very early on in the case. So it's almost begging the press to come kind of sniffing at your door for more evidence about Amber by hiring an attorney.

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Coincidental Deaths?


Mike Peterson(AP)

Coincidental Deaths?

Durham, N.C., May 20, 2003

"Accidental falls in the house are the leading cause of death, other than motor vehicle accidents in he United States.

Mike Peterson's attorney, David Rudolf

(CBS) While the story of Scott and Laci Peterson continues to get national attention, a trial has started in another, unrelated Peterson case with some eerie similarities.

Once again, a seemingly perfect marriage is under a microscope, and prosecutors say things may not be as perfect as they appeared, reports The Early Show national correspondent Tracy Smith.

By most accounts, Mike and Kathleen Peterson made an ideal pair. He is a decorated Vietnam veteran, novelist and columnist for the local paper. She was a career woman who served on the city's arts council. Their friend, Nick Galifianakis, called them "sweethearts."

"I thought that they were an extraordinary couple, a loving couple," said Galifianakis. "They had all the appearances and trappings of happiness. Totally compatible with one another."

Their family was a close-knit blend of children from former marriages and two orphaned girls that Mike had helped to raise. They all lived in an 11,000-square foot house in Durhamso picture-perfect that it was used as the set in a movie.

But on Dec. 9, 2001, that seemingly ideal life came to a sudden end. According to Mike Peterson, he and Kathleen were at the house the night before, drinking champagne and celebrating a possible movie deal for one of his books. Mike said Kathleen went to bed at 2 a.m., and when he followed, about a half hour later, he made a devastating discovery.

He said his wife had fallen down the stairs. When police arrived at the scene, they found Kathleen dead at the foot of the stairs, lying in a pool of blood.

"When I called 911, I thought she'd fallen down the stairs," said Mike Peterson. "As far as I know, that's what happened."

But an autopsy showed Kathleen had died of blunt force trauma to the head. In other words, she had been beaten to death. Less then two weeks later, Mike Peterson turned himself in to police, proclaiming his innocence.

"Kathleen was my life," he said. "I've whispered her name in my heart a thousand times. She is there. And I can't stop crying. I would never have done anything to hurt her."

He was indicted on first-degree murder. His family, including Kathleen's daughter, Caitlin Atwater, stood beside him.

"As far as I'm concerned, my mother would just be absolutely appalled and this is the last thing she would have wanted to ever, ever happen to her husband," said Atwater.

Tom Gasparoli has followed the trial as a columnist for The Herald-Sun and says the apparent history of a warm, loving and caring relationship is definitely going to work in Mike Peterson's favor in a circumstantial case.

"Is there a motive? I think the prosecution is going to come up with one," said Gasparoli. "I don't think they have to, but without one, the jury's scratching their heads a little bit and going, 'Why?'"

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Divers Search Again, Peterson Pursues Alternate Murder Theories

Divers Search Again, Peterson Pursues Alternate Murder Theories

Investigators in the Laci Peterson case returned to San Francisco Bay on Monday to look for additional evidence.

Using side-scanning sonar, investigators searched the bay in the area where Peterson's body and that of her unborn son were discovered in April. Whenever sonar returns indicated the possibility of evidence, divers from one of seven boats were sent down to examine the findings.

Among the items divers were reportedly told to look for were anchors or devices that could have been used to weigh down Peterson's body. It is not known what, if anything, was found.

The search came on the heels of the completion of the autopsy of the two bodies. The results of autopsies were immediately sealed by Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami. However, sources say Peterson's autopsy failed to reveal the cause of her death.

Peterson's husband, Scott, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder shortly after the bodies were discovered.

According to ABC News, sources close to Scott Peterson say his lawyers will question how Peterson, working alone, could have transported his wife's body and items to weigh her down.

Defense attorneys are also pursuing a theory that Laci Peterson could have been killed by a Satanic cult, which they say police investigated. Prosecutors, however, have dismissed that theory.

A preliminary hearing for Scott Peterson is scheduled for May 27. During those proceedings, the prosecution will have to lay out its evidence that Peterson should be tried for the murders of his wife and unborn son.

Story last updated Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 12:28 AM

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Divers Search for Laci Peterson Evidence

Saturday May 17, 2003 1:19 PM

Divers search for Laci Peterson evidence<< Modesto police divers resume search for evidence in Laci Peterson murder case

RICHMOND, Calif. (AP) - Police divers resumed a search in San Francisco Bay for evidence in the slaying of Laci Peterson, the 27-year-old woman whose remains washed ashore near here along with those of her unborn son.

The search could continue through the weekend, Modesto police Capt. Greg Savelli said Friday.

The remains were discovered by passers-by April 15. Published reports indicated at the time that not all of Peterson's remains were found, and that they may have been wrapped in plastic and weighted down by heavy material.

Divers first began searching the bay in January, and searched again in March in hopes of finding the body.

The remains washed ashore about three miles from where Peterson's husband, Scott, said he went fishing Christmas Eve. -------------

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Filipino murder mystery lands in California court

Filipino murder mystery lands in California court

JIM WASSERMAN, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, May 20, 2003

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(05-20) 13:40 PDT SACRAMENTO (AP) --

For 16 years, actress Nida Blanca starred in one of the most popular television shows in the Philippines, becoming so beloved in the island nation of 80 million people that fans called her "Tia Nida" -- Aunt Nida.

Her killing on Nov. 7, 2001, in an upscale neighborhood of Manila launched a national drama big enough that the nation's ousted president, Joseph Estrada, was released from the military hospital where he was held for plundering the Filipino treasury to attend her wake.

Now, Blanca's husband, 63-year-old American Roger Lawrence Strunk, faces a murder indictment issued by the Philippine government in February. He is scheduled to appear in U.S District Court in Sacramento Wednesday for a bail hearing to determine if he'll remain jailed while Filipino officials try to return him to Manila.

U.S. marshals arrested Strunk May 13 at a house he shared with his mother and two sisters in Tracy, a city of 70,000 people 50 miles east of San Francisco. Filipino officials call Strunk the leading suspect in the murder mystery that has riveted the Philippines for 19 months.

The case sparked a media frenzy in the Philippines and consumed many of the 2 million Filipino-Americans living in the United States, about half in California. More than a century of Filipino immigration and historical ties between the two nations has made Filipino-Americans the nation's second-largest Asian ethnic group, according to the 2000 census.

Blanca appeared in 163 comedy, drama, horror and action films and in more than a dozen television shows, including the popular comedy series, "John and Marsha", which ran for 16 years in which she played a devoted wife from a wealthy family married to a poor man.

Her fame has turned the case "hysterical" in the Philippines, said Jeffrey Kravitz, Strunk's Sacramento lawyer. "That's why we don't want him extradited."

In the Philippines, the mystery surrounding the death of the 65-year-old Blanca is "10 times larger than the Laci Peterson case," Kravitz said. Peterson's Christmas Eve disappearance in California, followed by the discovery of her body and Good Friday arrest of her husband, Scott, has dominated the U.S. media through much of 2003. ..................

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LIVE FROM THE HEADLINES

Laci Peterson Case: Back to the Bay

LIVE FROM THE HEADLINES

Laci Peterson Case: Back to the Bay

Aired May 20, 2003 - 20:07 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Want to switch our focus now. Laci Peterson case. Investigators today went back to San Francisco Bay looking for clues in that case. How is the search today?

Our Rusty Dornin is live in Richmond, California, watching this story from the very beginning, live again with us tonight.

Rusty, good evening there.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Bill.

Well, divers spent about seven hours in the water today before pulling up their air hoses and going back to the docks. Now that's been about the average that they're spending out there.

We didn't see from shore them bring anything aboard the boats today. Yesterday we saw them pull what looked like some kind of black cloth. We understand it was a sail. They do have to bring up anything they find, just so that the divers aren't pulling those things out again. Got to get rid of those things in the search area.

But from what we understand, as you can see, it's a little bit windy behind me here, and one of the sonar experts we talked to said, you know, every day has been the same. He goes out in the morning, it's beautiful, it's very glassy, they're getting great images off the bottom. Then by the afternoon, and when the waves are two or three feet high, that really smears the images and they're not able to get a good computer image. They end up having to come back to the dock and then try again the next day.

Now they have seen -- what they're looking for, really, is anything that looks like it does not belong in the bay, anything odd shaped. Says he's seen -- you know, they saw a couple of things they sent down divers for, they turned out to be tree stumps, things like concrete blocks that were not of something they were looking for.

So -- Gene Ralston (ph) out of Idaho says that the same problem has come up every day.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Early in the morning, we can make some pretty good, pretty decent images, when the water's calm, and we don't have a lot of velocity. But when the waves get two to three feet high, sends pretty good rollers, that starts messing up our images and smearing them pretty badly.

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DORNIN: Says it's difficult, because often they go to places where they know that there's been a drowning or an accident, and they know perhaps the point of entry.

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P.M. Update: Peterson's ex-girlfriend set to testify

P.M. Update: Peterson's ex-girlfriend set to testify

Modesto Bee and Wire Reports
(Published Tuesday, May 20, 2003, 2:26 PM)

LOS ANGELES -- Amber Frey said Monday she is prepared to testify when Scott Peterson goes to trial on charges of murdering his pregnant wife and their unborn son. Frey, 28, also said she has been hounded by news media and tabloids offering her money for her story ever since she came forward about her relationship with Scott Peterson about a month after Laci Peterson was reported missing.

As a result, the Fresno massage therapist said, she hired celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred to fend off the offers, which she does not intend to accept, and to represent her as a witness.

Allred represented the family of Nicole Brown Simpson during the O.J. Simpson criminal case.

"In addition to being a witness, Amber is also a victim of Scott's deception," Allred said at a news conference. "Victims are entitled to attorneys, as are witnesses."

Frey has said she did not know Peterson was married when she met him in November.

"She has been offered money for interviews and she has refused and will continue to refuse those offers," Allred said. "We are committed to protecting the integrity of the prosecution, and we will not allow her testimony to be contaminated by offers of money for her story."

Investigators arrested Scott Peterson last month after the bodies of his wife and their son, Conner, were found on the Richmond shoreline of San Francisco Bay, a few miles from where he said he was fishing when Laci Peterson disappeared from their Modesto home in December.

Frey spoke clearly at the news conference but appeared nervous. She declined to answer questions and said she would refer all inquiries to Allred.

"I don't think it's appropriate to talk about what might be contained in my testimony prior to my being called to the witness stand," she said.

Allred said Frey has "enormous empathy" for Laci Peterson's family.

"Every time she thinks of them she can barely hold back the tears because she is really very upset about their loss," Allred said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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To: Devil_Anse
Look at all those knives. Wonder if all the knives in that set are accounted for?

Hehehe, my son wrecked a whole steak knife set stripping speaker wires. Hey at least it was speaker wire and not the cats. (wink)

1,041 posted on 05/25/2003 2:56:43 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Fred Mertz
I attempted to express my opinion in a polite manner. I guess I failed again.

Dude don't worry about it. The cat fights haven't yet begun....

1,042 posted on 05/25/2003 3:04:33 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: STOCKHRSE
Re the story you posted about Amber and the married, expectant husband: do you live in the area, or do you rely on the National Enquirer? I'm pretty early on this thread, so if you backed this up with written proof, my apologies.
1,043 posted on 05/25/2003 3:18:00 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
LOL! Like, if he'd needed some catgut to re-string his tennis racket. ("Gee, mom, I didn't know you needed that cat!")

I find flashlights and all sorts of stuff that my son has taken apart to do his crazy "experiments." But no cats, thank heaven! He did use up all the potatoes firing them from his homemade potato gun, though. It's a wonder anyone with sons even has a house left to live in.
1,044 posted on 05/25/2003 3:34:55 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: STOCKHRSE
I did say just that....I DID NOT SAY THEY WERE...AD I HAVE SINCE APOLIGIZED....BUT TO YOU I DON'T...

Hey now, chill out. Have a sugar cube, or how about a carrot? ;-)

1,045 posted on 05/25/2003 3:36:08 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
That's an interesting story. He saw the woman's name through seeing the Enquirer story, and he looked in the directory for that area, and her number was listed, and he called the woman up and asked her! And she talked to him! Freepers are very curious animals, lol!
1,046 posted on 05/25/2003 3:36:37 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: The Other Harry
That is a very bad position to be in. You have no real authority. The manager of the parent office is the one who really runs the show. You own the consequences.

Damn. The consequences to the innocent bystanders can be awful. I hope you didn't lose your job because of him. That stuff happens. I know a guy that was set up because of my ex husband, and all through the crap he thought my ex was his best friend there :(

1,047 posted on 05/25/2003 3:57:59 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Devil_Anse
It's a wonder anyone with sons even has a house left to live in.

Bwahahaha!!! No kidding! Heck I can't keep a flashlight in the house without it being autopsied. The cat is safe; we've had him for years, and he puts up with no ones crap :) The only problem with him is that cat won't hunt. Mice could run over him and he wouldn't care...

1,048 posted on 05/25/2003 4:06:17 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: The Other Harry
Thought I would ask you, as you seem to have a very good overall knowledge base of this case.......

I read somewhere, on one of these threads, that the fertilizer Scott peddled was of a Spanish origin. Do we know if Tradecorp (I think that was the name) was Scott's company, set up as a distributor of this product?

Having worked as a sales mgr. in the long ago past, I know that some salesmen set up their own corps, as independents, and carry multiple products. I was just wondering about the nature of Tradecorp...and if Scott was actually an independent distributor of this product only....or if he actually carried multiple products.

Just a curiosity....
1,049 posted on 05/25/2003 4:19:01 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Devil_Anse
That's an interesting story. He saw the woman's name through seeing the Enquirer story, and he looked in the directory for that area, and her number was listed, and he called the woman up and asked her! And she talked to him! Freepers are very curious animals, lol!

I'll believe it when she testifies in court to this. I quit buying those rags when their reporters ran Arnold Shcwareneggar(cripes-sp)off the road when he was taking the kids to school. He had just had heart surgery, and this was at least one year before Princess Di died. As far as I'm concerned, the Enguirer and the Star are not good news sources.

Not just FReepers engage in over the top behavior. Another person on another website dealing with divorce and custody issues was accused of showing up at another poster's court hearing. People just don't have a life these days...

1,050 posted on 05/25/2003 4:20:14 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
ya lost me on your post....
1,051 posted on 05/25/2003 4:22:04 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Damn. The consequences to the innocent bystanders can be awful. I hope you didn't lose your job because of him.

I didn't *lose* my job because of him. I eventually went to work for a different company because of not liking the relationship I had with the manager of the parent office. The guy had a lot to do with it, but there were other things as well.

You know what I didn't like about him first?

There were a couple things.

For one, he was too slick. Too clever. He smelled like slime from the start.

For another, I noticed that he had dumped his ashtray out on the parking lot next to his car. I smoke, but I don't like people who do those kinds of things. They seem remakably inconsiderate to me.

I had enough information to go on. I should have said no,

1,052 posted on 05/25/2003 4:32:18 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: runningbear
I'm sorry. I didn't know Amber had nude pics taken, and so when I read that I was laughing because I had some taken by my now ex husband. It doesn't make you a killer to get suckered into something like that. :)
1,053 posted on 05/25/2003 4:55:28 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: The Other Harry
I noticed that he had dumped his ashtray out on the parking lot next to his car. I smoke, but I don't like people who do those kinds of things. They seem remakably inconsiderate to me.

What an a$$hole. I smoke and don't even flick the butts out the window when I'm driving.

I'm glad you got out of there. Workplaces like that can literally kill you.

1,054 posted on 05/25/2003 5:00:50 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"Re the story you posted about Amber and the married, expectant husband: do you live in the area, or do you rely on the National Enquirer? I'm pretty early on this thread, so if you backed this up with written proof, my apologies."


Here is the phone call post: We asked the moderator to remove the pone#

To: runningbear; alexandria

Thanks for the Ping...THIS post is a statement of verification by Michelle Hart, the victim prior to Laci peterson,of Amber Frey,who was 1 1/2 mts +/- from delivery of her first child when she says Amber started an affair with her husband and did in fact cause him to leave her prior to the birth of their son. She says Amber had full knowledge of her marriage and prenancy. Additionally,she says,without permission Frey visited her son in the hospital one hour after birth with her husband. Further,the MPD's SHOW CASE witness held a baby shower for Ms.Hart's son and kept the toys from him...The romance ended shortly thereafter.
The verification below was given to me personally at my request..WITHOUT RENUMERATION..!!! This was posted earlier but thought some may have missed it...Amber is a massage "Therapist" with a gallery of SKIN PICS in this issue of NE.."I am told...":-0)

Re:NE Post by Palladin Thursday evening #196 on prev thread...

FWIW:I just contacted a woman listed as...: M.Hart ...Fresno,Ca 93722.......

She identified herself as THE Michelle Hart mentioned IN the National Enquirer Article on Thursday...That she had read the article..and further that-as it regards her,her husband and Amber Frey-the NE was correct in EVERY RESPECT...and in addition that SHE related the story factually...NOT MY OPINION...Ray
I am only the humble messenger...:-)


14 posted on 02/08/2003 10:58 AM CST by STOCKHRSE (The difference tween knowing and proving is ONE good detective+work+work+work)
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ck


1,055 posted on 05/25/2003 5:45:51 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (My special thanks to: Uncle Chleo,NAVY WWI....Uncle Jake,Airforce WWII......)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
LOL... yep and cyberspace of them posting them ???/ (second thoughts, not going there...lol...)
1,056 posted on 05/25/2003 5:52:23 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Totally WEIRD--about that poster going to another's court hearing! (Uh... the name Jameson isn't involved in that, is it? On some sites, such as Mrs. Brady's URLs, they used to make reference to all sorts of stuff supposedly having to do with Jameson.)

I wouldn't dare disagree about the tabloids, lol. Anyone who tries to stick up for tabloids' accuracy will have mud on his face sooner or later. They are indeed haphazard in the accuracy department. But we believed Ray when he said he called the woman. Who knows? It's the internet, true. But it was a really neat idea, at the time, and everyone was egging him on.

Fortunately, I don't think Michelle will be testifying in Scott's trial. I may have to eat those words if they get some eccentric judge, but I just don't think whatever Amber did or didn't do with her husband will be relevant enough to be brought in. One way, however, I could see MAYBE its being brought in, would be if Geragos seriously starts trying to make the jury think AMBER murdered Laci. I myself don't believe Amber had a thing to do with that.
1,057 posted on 05/25/2003 6:12:04 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Nope, don't believe the name was Jameson. You know, I'm on this site all the time. I'm actually grounded because of the kids, but I turned out at a couple of rallies booing Gray Davis. Most fun I've had in years, however I would never pry into someone's personal life and don't believe most folks here would either. This is where internet ends and real life begins. If that story about Amber is true, then all bets are off. That is a sick story, and it almost sounds like my kids new stepmonster(no offense to stepparents-I'm just finding out that this one is about as low as my ex).

You'll be surprised at the sideshow Geragos tries to pull. If Amber has pertinent information, watch him drag her from the bumper of a Texas pickup truck...

1,058 posted on 05/25/2003 7:17:17 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: runningbear
Hahahaha! Nope Polaroid pics taken when I was a young girl(18). Destroyed maybe 15 yrs ago.

I have some boring pics floating around here from rallies. Ask DavidDennis, he takes all the pics from the Davis rallies :)
1,059 posted on 05/25/2003 7:24:12 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: STOCKHRSE
Palladin?????

No wonder. Look if this is true, she's a real sicko. My ex and his then gf(now uber wife lol!) saw our daughter in the hospital after the birth of her daughter, our granddaughter. Imagine trying to learn how to breastfeed with a total stranger staring at you. You know I forgot about that until your post. She's still Po'd about that invasion of privacy.

I'm still waiting to see what the cops have before I make any judgements about Amber. Let's sit and watch this and see how it unfolds. Btw, it was none of your business to call that woman....
1,060 posted on 05/25/2003 7:45:02 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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