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As conspiracies go, this is a doozy
Canton Repository ^ | June 17, 2003 | Robert Kagan

Posted on 06/18/2003 6:15:21 PM PDT by fightinJAG

Edited on 06/18/2003 7:19:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

There is something surreal about the charges flying that President Bush lied when he said that Saddam Hussein was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. In Europe, and especially in Britain, where Tony Blair is also under fire, the idea has actually taken hold that the charge against Iraq was a complete fabrication.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antibush; antiwarspinmachine; blameamericafirst; bushbashing; conspiracy; hateamericafirst; looneyleft; runningincircles; tinfoil
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1 posted on 06/18/2003 6:15:21 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
Good post.

I've added it to the WMD list:

EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT WMDs

Terrorist devices, chemical weapons found in Iraq

Suspicious Iraqi Drums - UPDATE

Suspected bioweapons labs found

Searching for Weapons of Mass Destruction, Larry Elder

Iraq's Weapons and the Road to War

Iraqi Scientist Links Weapons to 'Dual Use' Facilities, White House Says

IRAQ: U.S. Analysts Link Iraq Labs to Germ Arms

Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert

Herald Sun: Soldiers find Iraqi chemical 'dump'

***Germany's leading role in arming Iraq

*Germany intercepts (30 tonnes) chemicals (may be used to make nerve gas) for N Korea

New DOD team to hunt for intel as well as weapons

***Chemical Weapons Programs

Capture of chemical expert could help U.S. weapons hunt in Iraq (Emad Husayn Abdulla al-Ani)

Belgium Finds Nerve Gas Ingredient in Letters

Banned missile programme found in Iraq

Administration to Announce 'Rollback' Strategy for WMD

Suspicious Iraqi Drums Preliminary Testing Suggests Chemical Agents; More Testing Needed

2 trailers deemed biological arms labs

***Table 2: Characteristics of Chemical Warfare Agents: Commercial Uses of Chemicals or Precursor Chemicals

***CENTAF IRAQ'S CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS PROGRAM

WARNING: Gathering WMD storm a crock. See what Clinton told nation in 1998...

THE ROAD ENDS FOR WMD ON WHEELS

Coalition forces enter possible WMD site

Initial tests suggest WMD "cocktail" found in Iraq (**Of special note--post #58, by Archy)

U.S. finds new evidence of Iraqi WMD (NBC training school, antidotes)

Chem-weapons lab believed discovered

BRITS' CHILLING CHEM-NUKE FIND

CAPTURED FOES FOUND WITH CHEM-WAR GEAR

EUPHRATES 'POISONED'

MSNBC - Cyanide & Mustard Agents Found in Euphrates River

Is the Activity at Al Qaim Related to Nuclear Efforts?

U.S. probing nuclear facility (Al Tuwaitha Follow Up)

Team Inspects suspected plutonium site (update by the journalist who broke original story, NEW info)

Underground Nuclear Facility Found in Iraq

Marines hold Iraqi nuclear site built by French

U.S. Marines Guard Secret Iraqi City with Very Hot Nuclear Radiation Levels

IRAQ: WMD source 'was senior Iraqi officer'

If Bush, Powell & Rumsfeld "Lied" on WMD, So Did the UN, EU & Clinton (RUSH LIMBAUGH)

Rumsfeld Denies 'False Pretext' for Iraq War

Who screwed up?

An absence of evidence proves nothing

Powell Defends Information He Used to Justify Iraq War

Iraq Resumes WMD Activities, New York Times Reports [Carnegie - Jan. 22, 2001]

Iraq Rebuilt Weapons Factories, Officials Say

U.S. says more radioactive material than expected found at Iraqi nuclear site

Fate of Al-Tuwaitha nuclear material unclear

Iraq Failing to Disarm: Nuclear Weapons

***October 1998:Senate Democrats Signed Letter Urging Clinton To Attack Saddam Over WMDs

U.S. Discovers Weapons of Mass Destruction Lab.(see para 8; scrubbed caustics)

Weapons of Mass Destruction ( or Distorsion or Deception? You decide...)

Iraq's bioweapons program: detailed info on mobile labs from pre-war intel.

As conspiracies go, this is a doozy

2 posted on 06/18/2003 6:36:38 PM PDT by HatSteel
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To: fightinJAG
bump for later
3 posted on 06/18/2003 7:00:28 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: fightinJAG; Admin Moderator
I think because this column is syndicated from the Washington Post, it has to be excerpted. I think the Moderator will fix it.

Good post, though!

4 posted on 06/18/2003 7:03:24 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: fightinJAG
It just dawned on me that the press has a "pack" mentality. What ever one "animal" writes, the rest of the "pack" joins in. So much for individual thought.
6 posted on 06/18/2003 7:46:31 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Never rent a room from a man named Bates.)
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To: fightinJAG
I just sent the original URL to my senator John Forbes Kerry Heinz, the next president of the United States-NOT! Drudge has a Bbanner headline quoting Kerry dissembling about Bush.
I fear that Sen. Heinz won't rehabilitate himself though.
7 posted on 06/18/2003 10:29:45 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: fightinJAG
Blix also reported Iraq possessed 650 kilograms of “bacterial growth media'

I always wondered exactly what this stuff is. Is it something I might have in my house? We grew cultures in microbiology in college. I can't remember what it was. We used something very much like Jello. It may have been flavorless Jello. Did Saddam have stockpiles of Jello?

8 posted on 06/18/2003 10:34:47 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
I often find bacterial growth medium in various containers in my refrigerator.
9 posted on 06/19/2003 1:47:32 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: Lawgvr1955
This also is due to the fact that journalists have another character trait in common: laziness.

Why work for a story when you can paraphrase what the other guy wrote?
10 posted on 06/19/2003 1:52:32 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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Blix also reported Iraq possessed 650 kilograms of “bacterial growth media'

I have several kilos of bacterial growth media. It's called protein supplements.

People who exercise or lift weights often supplement their diets with protein, which is a great place to grow bacteria. If you don't wash out the container you mix your drinks in, it gets really nasty, really fast! This is why our highest protein foods spoil very quickly (Chicken, fish). Bacteria need good food too, and protein is what they love.

So theoretically, a couple of kilos of "Joe Weiders Super Protein" or whatever can be used to breed bacteria.

11 posted on 06/19/2003 1:52:48 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
One of his sons was like Tyson, the Clinton donor- he operated a huge chicken production enterprise which for some reason didn't feed all those "starving Iraqis" that the UN inspections had deprived of food, acording to lefties everywhere. Nonetheless, he had this huge chicken biz.

Chickens produce eggs as well as meat- the meat went into his freezers instead of into Iraqis and later some was found by US troops and consumed on the spot as a relief from all those MREs.

The eggs went into both food for people and into growth medium.

Of course, this is difficult to prove since eggs are "dual use." So long as folks were eating eggs, the Hussein clan could claim that's where all the eggs were going.

Except for that little problem they had with the UN inspectors, who found Iraqi weapons program documents, etc, stashed beneath a chicken coop.

(snip)Iraq's position that no documents or weapons remain is not credible. It denied a cache of documents until 1995, when Saddam Hussein's renegade son revealed a stash of 680,000 pages hidden in a chicken coop. Only after that did Iraq surrender the bulk of documents that have been recovered. Similarly, those documents revealed major stores of chemical weapons, the existence of which previously had been denied. (/snip)

It appears that Iraqi chicken coops are also "dual use."

12 posted on 06/19/2003 2:05:40 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Miss Marple
The mod did fix it (thanks). My understanding was that if Wash Post stuff was in other papers, at other urls, the Post had already agreed to give it up to non-Post readers, so to speak. Those other urls are paying the Post to use their stuff, so who owns the stuff once the Canton Repository, for example, pays to publish an article made available by the Post?

Anyway, don't want to run afoul of the rules.
13 posted on 06/19/2003 2:06:57 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: HatSteel
WOW. Good work on the compilation thread. That url should be sent to every Rat who opens his/her trap on WMD, every time they open it.
14 posted on 06/19/2003 2:10:13 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
Bump for later.
15 posted on 06/19/2003 2:12:02 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Freedom: America's finest export.)
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The chicken farm in question was supposedly his son-in-law Kamal's. General Kamal was the one who defected.

One of Hussein's sons had a chicken enterprise too. Or maybe he just took over Kamal's.

16 posted on 06/19/2003 2:14:00 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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I'm sure I'll be flamed handily for saying this, but it's been bugging me for a while now. We've talked so much about how much more we can "trust" President Bush than someone like the 'toon. But, I can't help but see an disheartening similarity between clinton's finger waving, and Mr. Powel holding up the vial of "anthrax" powder at the u.n. To me, the Bush administration made it all about the urgency - the impending disaster. Sure, you can argue all you want about, "well, the u.n. was looking for months, it will take time". But to me, just an average joe in Wisconsin, I honestly expected them to be able to produce SOMETHING in the way of evidence, especially after how they had hounded us daily about the MASSIVE amounts of weapons at his disposal. I read somewhere else here this morning that the administration feels that any voter displeasure over the inability to find any WMD will be overshadowed the the overall succcess of the operation. Well, say what you want, but I hold the administration to a higher standard than that.
17 posted on 06/19/2003 5:50:57 AM PDT by homeschool_dad
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To: homeschool_dad
An interesting development to me is hillary. She initially supported the war due to "the large amount of intelligence data that she and bill had seen during their administration." Now, she has changed her mind and says she was duped by Bush.

Does she now think she was duped during their administration?

Rumsfield made a good comment the other day: "We can't find Saddam either, but we know he's over there somewhere too." Saddam had weeks and months to clean up and move this stuff across the borders. I too wish they could find some actual WMD, but there is enough other evidence (for me) to indicate that he had the means and ability.

I also don't understand how everyone was upset about 9/11 - that we should have taken the intelligence seriously and proactively protected ourselves. With Saddam we did - and now we wonder if we over reacted. I think we have to do more to protect our selves from known threats - and did with Saddam.

18 posted on 06/19/2003 6:46:38 AM PDT by NorthGA
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To: piasa
Are you saying that eggs are used to make this "growth material"? Wouldn't it either be thrown out at some point or turned into Iraqi eggnog?
19 posted on 06/20/2003 1:42:57 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Lawgvr1955
What ever one "animal" writes, the rest of the "pack" joins in.

They think they smell blood.


20 posted on 06/20/2003 1:55:43 AM PDT by arasina (Did too! Did not! Did TOO!)
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