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IT’S NOT OVER YET
L.T. SMASH * LIVE FROM THE SANDBOX ^ | June 23, 2003 | L.T. SMASH

Posted on 06/25/2003 11:17:09 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

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Living With America  ^, Lt Smash's instructions on how to get along with the world's rightful Superpower.

1 posted on 06/25/2003 11:17:09 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Did this writer advocate armed revolution after the Waco massacre or is he just inconsistent?
2 posted on 06/25/2003 11:20:29 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I call this option “withdrawal.” It is exactly what our enemies hoped that we would do.

It is also EXACTLY the Clinton failed option.

3 posted on 06/25/2003 11:30:10 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (proud member of a fierce, warlike tribe of a fire-breathing conservative band of Internet brothers)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
BUMP!!
4 posted on 06/25/2003 11:34:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave
We must also continue to express moral support for those who oppose the teetering theocracy in Teheran. The best possible outcome in Iran would be a bloodless revolution, where the people seize power and force the mullahs to step aside. Semi-democratic institutions already exist in that country, they merely need to be freed from the shackles of theocratic oversight. There is still hope that such an outcome can be achieved—but it could just as easily turn into a bloody mess. While foreign intervention would most likely undermine the legitimacy of any future Iranian government, we must be prepared to provide such assistance if it is requested. To do otherwise would constitute a betrayal.

Ping to a great read.

5 posted on 06/25/2003 11:51:18 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (proud member of a fierce, warlike tribe of a fire-breathing conservative band of Internet brothers)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
keeper
6 posted on 06/25/2003 12:31:37 PM PDT by CGVet58 (I still miss my ex-wife... but my aim is improving!)
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To: JohnGalt
Bit of a difference between mistaken tactics used against a narcissist nutcase and his lost followers and going after terrorists who advocate, finance and intentionally murder innocent people who disagree with their 'ideology' - especially after 9-11.
7 posted on 06/25/2003 12:59:08 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (There has been a lot of action lately-a lot of it INSTIGATED by Coalition forces.-Gen Myers, Jun 24)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
So he would apologize for the state just as he apologizes for the state allowing 9/11 to occur, and favors a war half a world away to make 'us' safer,. Not one mention of traditional conservative support for a well armed citizenry and a decentralized government as the best defense.




8 posted on 06/25/2003 1:06:23 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
"L.T. Smash" leading troops in the ME + his computer = a powerful force for good. (^;

Daschle's deeply saddened.

9 posted on 06/25/2003 1:24:41 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (There has been a lot of action lately-a lot of it INSTIGATED by Coalition forces.-Gen Myers, Jun 24)
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To: JohnGalt
We want a free nation, high-speed communications, transportation, freedom to travel, move our money, privacy protection, civil rights - all good, but then cry foul when 19 sick men following the will of a sick ideology, financed by a sick leader abuse our freedoms to fly our planes into our buildings and murder our citizens.

9-11 won't happen again because "we the people" won't allow it....we'd take out the murderer first. They only succeeded the first time because we didn't believe our fellow "man" would do such a thing on American soil. We won't be fooled again.

10 posted on 06/25/2003 1:36:51 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (There has been a lot of action lately-a lot of it INSTIGATED by Coalition forces.-Gen Myers, Jun 24)
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Well over a trillion dollars has been spent to ensure 9/11s don't happen and to this date there as not been one resignation or a single dismissal, a pension stripped.

Troop movements in the Middle East may or may not make us 'safer' but the complete lack of focus on decentralizing the government and the FAA idiots who ensured 9/11s in the 1970s when they disarmed the passengers through fiat is usually defined as militarism which should not ever be confused with conservatism.
11 posted on 06/25/2003 1:46:26 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bookmarked.
12 posted on 06/25/2003 3:33:37 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America & Israel AND become a monthly donor to Free Republic. Or ELSE!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
L.T. Smash" leading troops in the ME + his computer = a powerful force for good. (^; Daschle's deeply saddened

Thanks for the great post and I agree with your sentiments above.

Great tagline, by the way.

13 posted on 06/25/2003 5:08:25 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (proud member of a fierce, warlike tribe of a fire-breathing conservative band of Internet brothers)
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To: JohnGalt
So he would apologize for the state just as...

Wow. You inject Waco into the conversation apropos of nothing and you've bootstrapped yourself into the conclusion that "he would apologize for the state", and from there you're off and running.

Is it worth pointing out here that blogger L.T. Smash didn't write a dang thing about Waco in this entry??

If you want to find out what L.T. Smash thinks about Waco, why don't you just email him: ltsmash@cox.net. This bizarrely free-wheeling speculation from out of thin air is a bit weird.

14 posted on 06/25/2003 5:21:26 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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Well over a trillion dollars has been spent to ensure 9/11s don't happen and to this date there as not been one resignation or a single dismissal, a pension stripped.

You would reduce 9-11 to a government mistake? We train our police, but can't possibly prevent all crime. A country this size that cherishes freedom, a determined bad guy, especially one fed on hate, can get past any roadblock - once.

This administration is doing good work re. the war on terror. We haven't had a second attack...against the will of our enemies who want American mass-casualties. The America people aren't panicked because they know this administration is made up of responsible, hard working adults - good people doing very tough work under extraordinarily difficult circumstances.

Our conservative military leaders are giving the world lessons in the free market economy, individual rights (and responsibilities) - freedom daily. I would argue that a few good men in this administration and this military are what stands between freedom and tyranny in the world today...

..in spite of the wilfull mischief of the powerful, unaccountable, partisan... press.

We're the good guys. We are taking out the bad guys, and those risking their lives to do so put up the neon "Welcome" sign over the nation of Iraq - the 'terrorists roach motel' (with themselves as bait) and take out the bad guys daily - NOT waiting for them to come to America. L.T. Smash is volunteering for a thankless job in heat and sand and under fire to defend the lives and freedoms of even those who disagree with him.

Police state? Those who defended Saddam Hussein and blamed America are not a crowd you could trust to defend (respect) your life, your $$$, your property or your freedom.

15 posted on 06/25/2003 6:32:09 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (There has been a lot of action lately-a lot of it INSTIGATED by Coalition forces.-Gen Myers, Jun 24)
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Not a government mistake, but it appears to be several intelligence failures and not one pension has been stripped from the lay abouts in the alphabet soup of extra-Constitutional agencies that failed so miserably.

Or, as the gun culture so distinctly pointed out during the 'school shooting wave': there is a defect in the culture that runs and hopes that they are spared rather than rushing the assailants, while the government protectors, in the case of Columbine, federal SWAT agents hid behind cars while children bled to death. The end result of gun control is genocide, used metaphorically to explain three planes hijacked and used as missiles while the occupants hoped it was just a 'regular' hijacking.

Todd Beamer has done more to make us safer, than a hundred LTs pontificating on the Internet about 'reshaping' the Middle East. What a bunch of crap, but then that is the point.

Militarism is not conservatism. That the militarists may yet sacrifice Bush's re-election is the truly scary part of the collective fanaticism that loves tanks and bombs and "creative destruction" (Italian fascistphile, Michael Ledeen's phrase).
16 posted on 06/26/2003 5:38:14 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Dr. Frank
The author is not a conservative so I can forgive his mistake of confusing the state has an extension of himself.

I will try to be more forgiving next time.
17 posted on 06/26/2003 5:41:10 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: JohnGalt
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, and I do not believe you do either. For one thing, you do not seem to have actually read the article you're commenting under. I still don't understand where did he say anything about Waco? Where did he say he's not a conservative? Where did he "confuse the state as an extension of himself"?

Perhaps there is a simple error to explain why you keep putting irrelevant comments underneath this article which have nothing whatsoever to do with this article. Let me know,

18 posted on 06/26/2003 10:43:12 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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State as extension of self:

"After the September 2001 terror attacks, we were faced with two options."


Not a Conservative:

After setting the (false) dichotimy of his 'two options' scenario, not one of his policy presciption had anything to do with issuing letters of marque and reprisal, insuring a well-armed citizenry, or decentralizing the state. He did not even suggest stripping pensions from the intelligence community heirarchy who so miserably failed their jobs.

RE: Waco. I asked as a curiosity: is this was patriot talking or simply a militarist? When he replies to my e-mail, I'll let you know.
19 posted on 06/26/2003 10:54:19 AM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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State as extension of self: "After the September 2001 terror attacks, we were faced with two options."

Quote does not support your characterization.

[Not a Conservative:] not one of his policy presciption had anything to do with issuing letters of marque and reprisal, insuring a well-armed citizenry, or decentralizing the state. He did not even suggest stripping pensions from the intelligence community heirarchy who so miserably failed their jobs.

So?

20 posted on 06/26/2003 11:24:34 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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