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A newly formed Film Institute for Conservatives!
http://www.afrfilmfestival.com ^

Posted on 07/08/2003 4:08:10 PM PDT by patriotmovies

The American Renaissance Film Institute

http://www.afrfilmfestival.com


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A new Conservative Film Institute has begun operations in Dallas, Texas. The American Film Renaissance Institute (AFRI) will provide resources to conservative, pro-American documentary and feature filmmakers. AFRI will hold the ONLY conservative film festival in the country next March. A special awards ceremony, The Ronald Reagan Awards for Cinematic Excellence, will be held, and will give awards to filmmakers whose work promotes freedom, individualism, and patriotism. If you can, please support this noble effort.
1 posted on 07/08/2003 4:08:11 PM PDT by patriotmovies
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2 posted on 07/08/2003 4:09:58 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Support Free Republic
"WE WERE SOLDIERS" = Now...

...& Then

http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com


Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE Guyer / Vet-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Photos)
3 posted on 07/08/2003 4:14:32 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comw)
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To: Cacique
Ping!
4 posted on 07/08/2003 4:26:06 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: PoorMuttly
FYI - you may want to bookmark this one.
5 posted on 07/08/2003 4:27:35 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I am not sure "We Were Soldiers" is conservative. It is a fine film that shows heroism under battle. Every nation celebrates those who had fallen and those who had served. The Soviet Union made dozens of movies that celebrated their WWII victory over Germany. Are those "conservative" films? Celebrating military victories are not by themselves conservative. Worship of the military is not conservative.
6 posted on 07/08/2003 4:32:38 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: patriotmovies
About time. This sounds like very good news. Thanks for telling us.
7 posted on 07/08/2003 4:34:40 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: patriotmovies; LibertyGirl77; sakka; Conservative4Ever; T Lady; Fester Chugabrew; sonserae; ...
Arts ping list!

Finally, I get some good news to ping!
8 posted on 07/08/2003 4:41:26 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Clemenza; PARodrig; nutmeg; firebrand
Can the conservative film festival be far behind?



9 posted on 07/08/2003 4:49:24 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: patriotmovies
Gee, you think I should learn to patent my ideas?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/873480/posts

10 posted on 07/08/2003 4:53:33 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Cacique
I wonder if someone got the idea from our FR threads on conservative films? It's a good sign.
11 posted on 07/08/2003 4:54:19 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: patriotmovies
Hmmmm.... Better hope this film institute has NO connection with the American Rennaisance Party or it could have buku problems from the get-go.
12 posted on 07/08/2003 5:02:08 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He who laughs last was too dumb to figure out the joke first)
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To: Burkeman1
.."WE WERE SOLDEIRS" =

...The honoring of Prices Paid...

...by our Battlefield Heroes...

...and their Hero Families...

...waiting for them to come home...

...or NOT =

...A Conservative Film.


Conservatism = C-L-A-R-I-T-Y
13 posted on 07/08/2003 5:06:02 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comw)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Again- nothing conservative about that. The Soviet Union made the same type of films that glorified their soldiers. Conservatism is not the open worship of military victories. Every society does that whether left or right.
14 posted on 07/08/2003 5:40:11 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
10-4. Thanks for your service and I agree with you.

I wonder whether we'll have any films produced about Gulf War II and our Battlefield Heroes, along the lines of what was done in "We Were Soldiers?"

15 posted on 07/08/2003 5:45:34 PM PDT by toddst
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To: Burkeman1
.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. was recently named the Non-Fiction Movie of the Year by a CONSERVATIVE Christian Motion Picture Organization for its reflecting the best in Conbservative Christian Values =

...A Conservative Motion Picture.
16 posted on 07/08/2003 5:47:56 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I don't care. It ain't a conservative movie.
17 posted on 07/08/2003 5:49:21 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
Conservatism is not the open worship of military victories. Every society does that whether left or right.

First, there was no worship of military victory in "We Were Soldiers." Bravery and unity of purpose at great sacrifice is what I saw.

My guess is you have no personal experience with combat.

18 posted on 07/08/2003 5:52:19 PM PDT by toddst
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To: Burkeman1
Conservatism is not the open worship of military victories. Every society does that whether left or right.

First, there was no worship of military victory in "We Were Soldiers." Bravery and unity of purpose at great sacrifice is what I saw.

My guess is you have no personal experience with combat.

19 posted on 07/08/2003 5:52:22 PM PDT by toddst
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To: patriotmovies
I've got one, I've got one!!
20 posted on 07/08/2003 5:52:23 PM PDT by AnnaZ (unspunwithannaz.blogspot.com... "It is UNSPUN and it is Unspun, but it is not unspun." -- unspun)
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To: toddst
Correct, I don't. Other than some Boston bar fights. I still don't see how a film celebrating glory, honor, and patriotism, on the battlefield is inherently "Conservative"? Don't get me wrong - "We Were Soldiers" is a great and moving film. But I don't see a "conservative" message in it at all.
21 posted on 07/08/2003 5:56:22 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
OK, which films do you think should be in a Conservative Film Festival?
22 posted on 07/08/2003 6:07:25 PM PDT by Mike the lurker
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To: Mike the lurker
"Cheaper by the Dozen"

"Angels with Dirty Faces"

"Barcelona"

"Henry the V"

"Das Boot"

23 posted on 07/08/2003 6:14:07 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1; toddst; VOA; Fred Mertz; AnnaZ
.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. was not a "Celebration of Military Victories" that you say it is. On the contrary, it was meant by its makers to be the Best Anti-War Film ever made, which I believe it is.

...At the Conclusion of WWS the losing Lt. Col. AN, portrayed by Communist Vietnam Actor and now FreeMan DON DUONG, proclaims his own long term future Military Victory after 10 more years of Fighting there.

...On the Day SADDAM's Statue fell to FREEDOM in Bagdhad DON DUONG, after his being persecuted as a Traitor inside Communist Vietnam just for his being in WWS, landed in San Francisco CA a FreeMan forever ...almost kissing the ground in the Process.

...There's lots happening here far beyond your view of what makes a Conservative Motion Picture and what doesn't.

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. teaches us much on the screen and in real life about the LOVE of FREEDOM which is the Core Conservative Belief.
24 posted on 07/08/2003 6:14:40 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Burkeman1
Conservatism is not the open worship of military victories. Every society does that whether left or right.

First, there was no worship of military victory in "We Were Soldiers." Bravery and unity of purpose at great sacrifice is what I saw.

My guess is you have no personal experience with combat.

25 posted on 07/08/2003 6:21:17 PM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
Already answered this post.
26 posted on 07/08/2003 6:22:41 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1
The triple post was some sort of hiccup, not intended.
27 posted on 07/08/2003 6:26:00 PM PDT by toddst
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To: Mike the lurker
Forrest Gump

Lord of the Rings

October Sky

High Noon

The Third Man

So many possibilities...
28 posted on 07/08/2003 6:30:40 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Cacique
As an Indian I will say: if that Indian is a conservative all is fine but if he is a Liberal (most Indians are) then it is racist. (I am joking of course)
29 posted on 07/08/2003 6:33:17 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: toddst
So what do you want from me? No- I have not served in the military. Neither has one of my brothers. My Father did and hated it and said it was a waste of time and he was a volunteer. My Grandfather actually served in WWI as a driver of trucks (my father was not born until my grandfather was 55). ANd he said that WWI was BS and we were bamboozled into it and still didn't wan't to go to war when WWII came about.
30 posted on 07/08/2003 6:37:45 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Burkeman1; ALOHA RONNIE
I still don't see how a film celebrating glory, honor, and patriotism, on the battlefield is
inherently "Conservative"?


While I see merit in your side of this healthy discussion, I'll present
my short thoughts about why "We Were Soldiers" can be considered a "conservative film",
at least in relative terms to most of the dreck that slithers from Hollywood to the
silver screen.
I give a short list of concrete examples that (in my fallible opinion) should
qualify this film at least as a "conservative-friendly" film.

Exhibit A:
Vietnam-era portrayal of American infantry troops as something other than
doped-up baby-killers and rapists.
(Granted, those sad sort of events occur in any war...it was refreshing just
to see the "rest of the story" of stand-up guys keeping their commitment, even some of
them with months or weeks left on their hitch.)

Exhibit B:
Portraying a mid-level commander like Moore as not only a tough guy, but
a moral and educationally-accomplished warrior. When you see a religously-oriented
intelligent character positively portrayed in a Hollywood film...that's conservative.
Not the usual portayal of intelligent, religious people as dangerous nutburgers.
In the hands of someone else than Gibson, images of Moore and other soldiers in the
chapel wouldn't end up on the cutting-room floor...they'd wouldn't have made
it into the freakin' script!

Exhibit C:
The scene in which the injured soldier (with obious head wound) is being pushed in a
wheelchair by another soldier down the airport terminal corridor.
The way the nice lady and her kids recoil from the poor soldier...and the sign
at the end of the corridor "Baggage Claim"...not many film directors would
point a real finger at the US public and say it (without words)
"A lot of you people treated these good men like trash."
Not many Hollywood directors would like to point the finger at themselves either...
on this topic.

Exhibit D:
The scene with the clueless reporters landing at the end of the movie...
pirahnas in look of a good story over how the quagmire is shaping up...
and in great hopes of promoting that concept.
Compare those peckerwoods with Galloway who enters the story as a journalist commited
to being a non-combatant...but learns there is a time to stand and fight.
The other journalists were just after a story; like most conservatives,
Galloway was looking for, and found, truth.

Exhibit E:
Inclusion of the aspect of how Moore's hands were tied by rules of engagement given
the border aspects of the battle.
I was a kid when these events were going on...I had no clue that those
Democratic geniuses LBJ and McNamara had ham-strung our forces that early in the game.


Exhibit F:
And the respectful treatment of the enemy soldiers?
A fair tip of the hat.
Americans always give due to the tough guys, even when they are on the other side.
Japanese pilots who participated in the Pearl Harbor attacks were amazed to find
they were accorded respect at airshows and commemorative ceremonies in the USA...
treated like non-persons in Japan.
Honestly, I don't know if I'd call this a conservative value, but it does
seem that even the fairly conservative members of our armed forces
see this as part of "the rules of the game".
31 posted on 07/08/2003 6:40:59 PM PDT by VOA
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; .30Carbine
.."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. teaches us much on the screen and in real life about the LOVE of FREEDOM which is the Core Conservative Belief.

Amen! And amen to the whole of post #24. WWS's is a moving tribute to the men who fight for freedom but has no praise of war at all that I could see.

32 posted on 07/08/2003 6:45:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right ... so was PT Barnum!)
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To: VOA
Excellent summary and response, especially about the journalist turned warrior. If only numbers of reporters and photographers in Vietnam had done the same, as opposed to always looking for a "America's failing and wrong" take.
33 posted on 07/08/2003 6:50:36 PM PDT by toddst
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To: BossLady
Time for you to make a movie.
34 posted on 07/08/2003 6:53:30 PM PDT by vikingchick
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To: Burkeman1
So what do you want from me? No- I have not served in the military. . . My Father did and hated it and said it was a waste of time and he was a volunteer.

Well, I don't know which war your father was referring to. However, if WW II was a "waste of time" what would have stopped Hitler from taking and holding all of europe? US participation saved millions of lives and preserved our freedom as well. Pretty conservative that, IMO.

35 posted on 07/08/2003 7:01:06 PM PDT by toddst
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To: TigersEye; ALOHA RONNIE; Burkeman1
WWS's is a moving tribute to the men who fight for freedom but has no praise
of war at all that I could see.


That's generally the way I saw it as well.
And as something of a chess game...with Moore going over the mistakes of
the French and even Custer, while his opposite number had to figure out how
to fight the forces of a super-power.

Regarding "anti-war/pro-war" films, IIRC, director/author Peter Bogdonovich
recounted a story about director John Huston from the WWII era.
Huston was at a cocktail reception when a high-level US military officer
approached with fire in his eyes (I think it was an Army general...maybe).
The officer than verbally attacks Huston saying something like
"I hear you're busy making some d-mned 'anti-war' movie; don't you know how
unpatriotic that is?!"

Huston was reported to laugh and say "General, when I make a 'pro-war' film,
I hope you will have me shot!".
36 posted on 07/08/2003 7:08:41 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Mike the lurker
OK, which films do you think should be in a Conservative Film Festival?

No conservative car chases! No conservative robots!

For a good conservative start.

37 posted on 07/08/2003 7:09:59 PM PDT by lonestar (Don't mess with Texans)
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To: VOA
...As Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE kept saying to his men over and over again at the Battle of IA DRANG-1965:


.."That's just OUTSTANDING.!!!"




*See our "WE WERE SOLDIERS" Forum:

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8
38 posted on 07/08/2003 7:19:46 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Mike the lurker
A Man for All Seasons
Zulu
Boys Town
Robin Hood (Errol Flynn version)
Rob Roy
Red Dawn
Eleni
On the Waterfront
Gattaca
The Apostle
39 posted on 07/08/2003 7:25:31 PM PDT by Nightbird
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To: VOA
The DVD is worth purchasing for not only a wonderful movie but the supplementary material. The director and screenwriter, Randall Wallace, was absolutely committed to getting it right. He only hired people who had that same commitment, and used the actual people (and family members of those killed) as technical advisers. This, I think, more than any other single thing, is what made the movie such a wonderful experience.
40 posted on 07/08/2003 7:37:30 PM PDT by WarEagle
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To: Nightbird
Eleni

I was very dissapointed in the movie, it was so thin compared to the book.
41 posted on 07/08/2003 7:49:36 PM PDT by visualops (The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.)
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To: visualops
I basically agree...I wasn't all that disappointed with the movie, but it does pale in comparison to the book.

However, that's almost always the case. A two-hour movie can never match a well-written novel for details and emotion.

Nevertheless, the story of Eleni is powerful and the movie is 100 times better than the typical Hollywood drivel.
42 posted on 07/08/2003 8:01:23 PM PDT by Nightbird
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To: vikingchick
I was thinking about that just the other day in fact....no kidding. You can take the girl outa Hollyweird but can't take the Hollyweird outa the girl....LOL.

I actually have several good ideas....hmmmm....:))

43 posted on 07/08/2003 8:27:14 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: Mike the lurker
The Alamo
Shenandoah
The Fountainhead
Sugarland Express
The Manchurian Candidate
Chocolat
A Man for All Seasons
Braveheart
Rio Bravo
The Maltese Falcon

and just for the memories: Beau James
44 posted on 07/08/2003 9:10:36 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for all you've done for this country.
45 posted on 07/08/2003 9:15:17 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: patriotmovies
Great news! BTTT
46 posted on 07/08/2003 10:00:41 PM PDT by lainde
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To: VOA; Fred Mertz; Richard Kimball; RedBloodedAmerica; toddst; Joy Angela; conservogirl; ...
NEVER FORGET


This July 4th...


...on behalf of the Brave Souls of the IA DRANG's 1st Battalion, U.S. 7th Cavalry...

-Lt. Gen. HAL G. MOORE (Ret.)
-Sgt/Major BASIL PLUMLEY
-JOE GALLOWAY


received:

The AUDIE MURPHY Patriotism Award.


See:

'Audi Murphy Patriotism Award - 1st of the 7th Cavalry'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1322


GARRY OWEN, Sir




47 posted on 07/08/2003 10:09:32 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Cacique
This is great news! Thanks for the ping.
48 posted on 07/08/2003 10:27:47 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; stanz; RaceBannon; rmlew; NYC GOP Chick; hellinahandcart; Oschisms; Nitro; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

49 posted on 07/08/2003 10:31:31 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: patriotmovies
Thanks! I just contacted them to ask if my screenplay fits the profile they seek and to ask about fees/schedule...and to give them the name of my WGA signatory Agent. Now, I wait.
50 posted on 07/08/2003 10:31:37 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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