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A newly formed Film Institute for Conservatives!
http://www.afrfilmfestival.com ^

Posted on 07/08/2003 4:08:10 PM PDT by patriotmovies

The American Renaissance Film Institute

http://www.afrfilmfestival.com


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To: Our man in washington
High Noon

**BUZZ!** Sorry, that's not correct.

High Noon was inspired by the House Un-American Activities Commission's targeting of some Hollywood screenwriters being targeted as Commie symps.

John Wayne reportedly hated the picture, incensed by the final scene in which Gary Cooper grinds his badge into the dust with his boot.

81 posted on 07/09/2003 2:41:43 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: jla
Some good news...
82 posted on 07/09/2003 2:45:36 PM PDT by Treasa
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Chocolat

Pourquoi??

83 posted on 07/09/2003 2:50:11 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Oh, well. I just thought Cooper's devotion to duty epitomized conservative values. Guess I learned something new here.

Scratch that one. Well, there's always last year's "A Walk to Remember" which is not a great movie. But it's good, and very conservative.
84 posted on 07/09/2003 2:54:15 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Our man in washington
Oh, well. I just thought Cooper's devotion to duty epitomized conservative values. Guess I learned something new here.

I didn't say High Noon wasn't a great movie. It just wasn't created from a conservative point-of-view.

Heck, one of my fave movies is Star Wars, and while the Buddhist overtones are irritating at times, I don't let them get in the way of my enjoyment.

For some other movies, there are no overtones -- just a rubber mallet pounding the biases of the filmmaker into your face. I just caught half of Tim Robbins' Bob Roberts yesterday on Bravo (The Gay Network) and was amazed at how insulting the whole thing was to the viewer's intelligence.

85 posted on 07/09/2003 3:04:46 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: nutmeg
Excellent!
86 posted on 07/09/2003 3:49:40 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: L.N. Smithee
I suppose that a single-mother being hassled by the government for trying to run a small business would qualify. Perhaps conservatives do identify with the government nowdays.
87 posted on 07/09/2003 3:53:59 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Maigret
Sorry to take so long to get back to you, my keyboard decided to quit on me yesterday :(

About films based on the classics, I think it really does depend on the directors take on the material. In 1944, Olivier (sp?) did Henry the Fifth as a Patriotic call to arms, like Alexander Nevski and in 1989 Branneugh (sp?) did it as almost an anti war film , like Paths of Glory.

88 posted on 07/09/2003 4:54:42 PM PDT by Mike the lurker
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Sorry to take so long to get back to you, my keyboard decided to quit on me yesterday :( I'm spamming this to everyone that responded to me.

Haven't seen chocolat. The sugarland express, to me is a story of fighting an unresponding & unjust beauracacy.It is conseravative in that it shows that to take a stand and fight the power you have to be prepared to pay a price.

If you are by yourself, you're an Outlaw, if you have an army fighting the power with you, as in the Patriot, you're a Rebel.
89 posted on 07/09/2003 5:03:37 PM PDT by Mike the lurker
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To: Nightbird
Sorry to take so long to get back to you, my keyboard decided to quit on me yesterday :( I'm spamming this to everyone that responded to me.

Gattaca like Logans Run, and Soylent Green says to me, Guard your Liberties otherwise you'll wind up being in the eyes of the State not a Human Being, but an encumberance, to be a third class citizen or worse.
90 posted on 07/09/2003 5:10:19 PM PDT by Mike the lurker
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To: Burkeman1
Sorry to take so long to get back to you, my keyboard decided to quit on me yesterday :( I'm spamming this to everyone that responded to me.

Cheaper by the Dozen, ( Read the books also :) ) to me has the message of a strong ( & in this case a Large) family , gives you the anchor in life that makes a comfort zone needed to let you be creative & inventive juices flow.

The Gilbreaths(sp?), for those who may not know, had 12 Kids & ran the 1st Husband & wife team of Industrial effiency experts in the early parts of the 20th.
91 posted on 07/09/2003 5:19:26 PM PDT by Mike the lurker
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To: Mike the lurker
Looks like your keyboard came back to you like a vengeance. You posted the same thing 4 times.
92 posted on 07/09/2003 5:21:05 PM PDT by sonserae
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To: sonserae
As I indicated, I was spamming it to the folks that responded to me.

I don't post much, & didn't expect the response.

However, I will just say to everyone else I haven't got back to, the apology inckudes you also :)
93 posted on 07/09/2003 5:34:24 PM PDT by Mike the lurker
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To: Huber
I don't think they ever actually call them Republicans and Democrats in the movie. I realize they're not subtle about the Senator being pro-military, but aren't you reading into the movie, too, to say that all Republicans were and are pro-military in the way that Senator was, therefore he must be a Republican?
94 posted on 07/09/2003 5:37:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Personal bias isn't always bad. I reflexively hate stupidity.)
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To: Burkeman1
Do you have any proof to suggest the Earl of Oxford, or anyone else besides th man who claimed to have written those plays, wrote them? (Shakspere/Shakespeare/Shagsper)

How is it a conservative value to believe that only a special elite class can contribute to society?

Isn't merit, and the idea of that one can use hard work and one's mind to advance oneself a conservative idea? Id you study his biography, you will see that Shakespeare was very determined to work himself up to the ``middle class'' of his day.

I am sure it would appeal to Hillary Clinton and her ilk that only the elite, like Edward de Vere, can be trusted with important thoughts.

95 posted on 07/09/2003 5:46:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: patriotmovies
my idea for a conservative movie is to portray michael moore's acceptance speech at the oscars, as if he lived in every other country....

(iran) "the ayatollah is a ficticious(BANG! thud)

(north korea) "president il-joung kim is a ficticious(BANG! thud)

(china) premier (BANG! thud)

(new jersey) "bruce springsteen is a ficticious boss(BANG! thud) hey vinny, we got no parking lot big enough to hide this lard a$$... jmt, teeman

96 posted on 07/09/2003 5:56:41 PM PDT by teeman8r (do unto others, then write it off of your taxes and do them again with government's approval)
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To: Treasa
Some good news...

Yes, and the first Ronnie for Best Picture should be given retroactively to Clint Eastwood for


97 posted on 07/09/2003 6:01:00 PM PDT by jla
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I think I have problems in the choice of Chocolat and Forrest Gump in that both have scenes nominally endorsing premarital sex, to which I think most conservatives would object. Chocolat is also fairly blunt in its anti-church and pro-hedonist viewpoint, which most conservatives would probably take issue with.

I liked both, however.

On a different note, how about some more lighthearted fare? Both those were kinda serious. We should also try to delineate what exactly makes a movie conservative. And I'm judging these movies NOT on the content of their actors or directors, but on the movie's overriding theme as well as a lack of significantly objectionable actions or behavior on the part of its characters that is unnecessary to the story. My dad's favorite line upon leaving the theater when I was a kid:

"That would have been a great movie if it hadn't had so much (blank)."

I nominate The Princess Bride and The Sandlot.

And there's a movie out right now called 'Together,'
a Chinese film about a father who wants his son, a violin-playing prodigy, to have the best instructor and goes through a lot to get a good one for his son (GREAT movie).

Additionally, I'd vote for High Noon, despite its detractors, because I think it's a great film and it really has no negative message that isn't read into it. And I'd second the nomination of 'The Quiet Man,' which I think is probably John Wayne's best movie.

Thank goodness no one forgot Red Dawn. I want that movie on DVD. Just like I'd like to get the miniseries 'Amerika' on DVD, even though the loathsome, ridiculously miscast Kris Kristofferson stars.

For a fairly offbeat pick, how about 'About a Boy?' It's a weird movie, but it certainly presents a picture of the troubles of single parenting in a way that shows that the parents and kids aren't evil, but aren't in the ideal situation, either. And it shows that hedonism isn't always a good thing.
98 posted on 07/09/2003 6:12:34 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Personal bias isn't always bad. I reflexively hate stupidity.)
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To: jla
You don't see conservatives approving flicks with main characters that are hookers every day...that's one objection I foresee for Unforgiven.

Assuming that vein of objection (significant sexual content) is dismissed, I'd also nominate Dangerous Liasons and Mystery, Alaska.
99 posted on 07/09/2003 6:18:58 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Personal bias isn't always bad. I reflexively hate stupidity.)
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To: Mike the lurker
In that line, Enemy of the State was the most conservative movie I've seen in recent years.
100 posted on 07/09/2003 6:20:30 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Personal bias isn't always bad. I reflexively hate stupidity.)
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