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Womb 'smile' fires abortion row
The Age Online ^ | September 14, 2003 | By Rebecca Urban, James Meikle

Posted on 09/15/2003 10:35:24 AM PDT by miltonim

Images published for the first time yesterday suggesting unborn babies smile, blink and cry months before they leave the womb have renewed calls for abortion to be outlawed.

The pictures, published in London, show foetuses at 26 weeks exhibiting facial expressions. The images were captured by state-of-the-art scanning equipment.

Anti-abortion groups seized on the revelation, saying the images confirmed what they had argued all along: that a foetus was a human being with human characteristics.

The technology, known as a 3-D/4-D ultrasound, also reveals limb movements at eight weeks, leaping, turning and jumping at 11 to 12 weeks, intricate finger movements at 15 weeks and yawning at 20 weeks.

Whether the facial expressions are an emotional response or merely physical reflex is likely to be debated.

An obstetrician who has been using the Austrian-developed equipment at a private London health clinic for two years, Stuart Campbell, said: "It is remarkable that a newborn baby does not smile for about six weeks after birth. But before birth, most babies smile frequently. This may indicate the baby's trouble-free existence in the womb and the relatively traumatic first few weeks after birth when the baby is reacting to a strange environment."

In Australia yesterday, anti-abortionist Senator Brian Harradine said governments had a responsibility to at least look at the new information to emerge from London. Similar evidence pointing to activity in the womb had existed for several years, but had largely been ignored, he said. "The photos show abortion is actually killing these unborn children. It really is time the massacre stopped."

A Victorian Government spokesman said abortion laws were based on years of scientific research and while the Government was interested in all new medical developments and theories, any major policy review on abortion was a long way off.

Pro-Life Victoria secretary Denise Cameron said she was not surprised by the photographs. The information would bolster the campaign for a review of abortion laws.

"It is very, very exciting news for us... that babies at 26 weeks are smiling and laughing in utero," said Ms Cameron, speaking from the Freedom To Be Born rally at Treasury Gardens yesterday.

"No longer can you deny that what is in the womb is a living being. We have always known that every abortion is killing a baby."

Australian Doctors Who Represent Human Life president Kevin Hume, said pro-life groups had believed for years that a foetus had human characteristics. The images would allow them to say, "I told you so."

"If evidence of human features, smiling and so forth, appear at an early age it means we should look again at... abortion that is carried out in the first and second trimesters," he said. "We're looking at recognisable human beings."

Melbourne's Catholic vicar-general, Monsignor Les Tomlinson, said he expected the images would ignite further debate on abortion. He backed a review of abortion laws.

"The Catholic Church's position has always been that we would regard human life from the moment of conception. So this would certainly be scientific evidence of the correctness of our belief," he said. "Any revisiting of the legislation would be welcomed by us."

Australian Birth Control Services medical director Geoff Brodie said he doubted the pictures would have much impact on the abortion laws.

"I think they are clutching at straws," he said. "No doubt it will be picked up by those groups that use anything and everything to stop terminations but ignore the fact that women have a right to choice."

The 3-D/4-D ultrasound reveals more detailed and life-like scans of a foetus than the common 2-D ultrasound that concentrates largely on the internal organs.

Obstetrician Professor Campbell said he believed the new technology meant there were many questions that could now be investigated. "Do babies with genetic problems such as Down syndrome have the same pattern of activity as normal babies? Does the foetus smile because it is happy or cry because it has been disturbed by some event in the womb? Why does a baby blink when we assume it is dark inside the uterus?" Professor Campbell said.

A spokeswoman for the Royal Women's Hospital in Melbourne said scientific evidence still maintained that babies in the womb did not smile.

Dr Brodie, of Australian Birth Control Services, said it was still unknown if smiles, or other facial movements, were the result of neurological reflexes or emotional development.

The $A290,000 scanner that makes the images possible costs two to three times more than conventional equipment. The machine develops ultrasound so that it can be transformed and shaded to produce detailed surface features from the foetus that move in real time. It is already improving diagnosis of abnormalities such as cleft lip and palate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4d; abortion; prenataldevelopment; prolife; unborn
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Bringing Good Things to Life (ULTRASOUND)
Citizen magazine ^ | June 2003 | Karla Dial
Ever since I heard of this new technology, I've maintained that it is the Stealth Bomber that is going to zoom in under the pro-death crowd's radar and nuke them... once a woman sees what is really in her womb, it ceases to be a "tissue mass" and becomes... a baby. Her baby.
Silent Scream made an impact on those few who saw it.
Fetal Psychology wasn't even a blip.
 
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The War Over Fetal Rights
MSNBC.COM ^ | 6/1/03 | Debra Rosenberg
Is this a person?
 
 
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Treating the Tiniest (pro-life issue benefits from advances in fetal surgery)
NEWSWEEK ^ | June 9 issue | Claudia Kalb
 
 
 
 
 

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Hometown Heroes: Stirring the Pot (Pro-life moms take on The Pampered Chef)
Citizen Magazine ^ | June 2003 | Candi Cushman
Pro-Life 'Chefs' Exiting the Pampered Life
The Billionaire Bomb [Just look who's funding anti-population programs.]
 
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The Fully Informed Mother's Act
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41 posted on 09/15/2003 1:39:40 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: HIDEK6
Does one pose or posit a rhetorical question, or a questioning assumption?
42 posted on 09/15/2003 6:36:48 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Does one pose or posit a rhetorical question, or a questioning assumption?

Ladies and gentlemen, there is a sharpshooter in the house.

A questioning assumption? Come on.

To re-iterate, you pose a question and posit an assumption.

To pose means to present for consideration.

To posit means that the following assumption will be used as a starting point for the argument, and the assumption posited will be assumed to be true for the purposes of the current argument. (see definitions 2 and 3)

Main Entry: pos·it

Pronunciation: 'pä-z&t

Function: transitive verb

Inflected Form(s): pos·it·ed /'pä-z&-t&d, 'päz-t&d/; pos·it·ing /'pä-z&-ti[ng], 'päz-ti[ng]/

Etymology: Latin positus, past participle of ponere

Date: 1647

1 : to dispose or set firmly : FIX

2 : to assume or affirm the existence of : POSTULATE

3 : to propose as an explanation : SUGGEST

Main Entry: 1pose

Pronunciation: 'pOz

Function: verb

Inflected Form(s): posed; pos·ing

Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French poser, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin pausare, from Late Latin, to stop, rest, pause, from Latin pausa pause

Date: 14th century

transitive senses

1 a : to present for attention or consideration "Let me pose a question." b : to put or set forth : OFFER

2 a : to put or set in place b : to place (as a model) in a studied attitude

intransitive senses

1 : to assume a posture or attitude usually for artistic purposes

2 : to affect an attitude or character usually to deceive or impress

43 posted on 09/16/2003 5:46:36 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6
Supposing this quarrel relevant, where should we deposit it?
44 posted on 09/16/2003 7:25:05 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: MEG33
Are you feeling in the mood for another go around? Look at David Letterman :-) Have you ever seen a man so thrilled to have a baby?
45 posted on 09/16/2003 7:28:53 AM PDT by cyborg (member of the tinfoil hat society)
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To: chimera
good post. That was what I was trying to get at. They now have women write little notes like "I'm sorry I couldnt keep you, but I hope to see you one day". They know their "its not human" argument has been exposed as being wrong, so they look for another angle.
46 posted on 09/16/2003 7:51:00 AM PDT by Charlie OK (If you are a Christian, please drive like one!)
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To: Charlie OK
Concerning the pro-aborts, I have never seen a group of people more desperate to avoid facing a simple truth, that an unborn child is a fully human person. Every fact of science and exercise of logic leads to that conclusion. The rhetorical and logical knots people tie themselves into to avoid such a seemingly obvious truth is both sad and tragically funny, since it involves such a horrid practice. Why expend such efforts when a simple acknowledgement of an obvious truth is easier and more honest.

Then again, belief in objective truth is one thing that distinguishes conservatives from liberals. But when everything becomes relative, and truth is what an individual deems it to be regardless of any inconvenient facts, then almost anything goes. Unfortunately and tragically, we as a society have the blood of going on 50 million innocent dead on our hands as the price paid for homage to the liberal God of moral relativism.

47 posted on 09/16/2003 8:27:18 AM PDT by chimera
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To: miltonim
bump
48 posted on 09/16/2003 8:38:17 AM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: votelife
g'day, my friend....did you catch Boxer rantsing on the Senate floor about the "sense of the Senate " provision in the PBA bill that should "affirm" Roe ?
49 posted on 09/16/2003 10:44:14 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050
I missed it, but as the most absolute defender of abortion in the Senate, I'm not surprised...Hopefully someone will beat her next year.
50 posted on 09/16/2003 3:27:34 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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