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Both President Bushes and a Secret Society
CBSNews.com ^ | Oct. 5, 2003

Posted on 10/08/2003 9:39:35 PM PDT by EsclavoDeCristo

Skull And Bones Oct. 5, 2003

There are secrets that George W. Bush guards at least as carefully as any entrusted to a president.

He's forbidden to share these secrets even with the vice president -- secrets he has held ever since his days as an undergraduate at Yale.

In his senior year, Mr. Bush - like his father and his grandfather - belonged to Skull and Bones, an elite secret society that includes some of the most powerful men of the 20th century.

All Bonesmen, as they're called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is called "The Tomb."

There are conspiracy theorists who see Skull and Bones behind everything that goes wrong, and occasionally even right in the world.

Apart from presidents, Bones has included cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, statesmen and captains of industry - and often their sons, and lately their daughters, too.

It’s a social and political network like no other. And they've responded to outsiders with utter silence – until an enterprising Yale graduate, Alexandra Robbins, managed to penetrate the wall of silence in her book, “Secrets of the Tomb.” Correspondent Morley Safer reports. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ”I spoke with about 100 members of Skull and Bones and they were members who were tired of the secrecy, and that's why they were willing to talk to me,” says Robbins. “But probably twice that number hung up on me, harassed me, or threatened me.”

Secret or not, Skull and Bones is as essential to Yale as the Whiffenpoofs, the tables down at a pub called Mory's, and the Yale mascot - that ever-slobbering bulldog.

Skull and Bones, with all its ritual and macabre relics, was founded in 1832 as a new world version of secret student societies that were common in Germany at the time. Since then, it has chosen or "tapped" only 15 senior students a year who become patriarchs when they graduate -- lifetime members of the ultimate old boys' club.

“Skull and Bones is so tiny. That's what makes this staggering,” says Robbins. “There are only 15 people a year, which means there are about 800 living members at any one time.”

But a lot of Bonesmen have gone on to positions of great power, which Robbins says is the main purpose of this secret society: to get as many members as possible into positions of power.

“They do have many individuals in influential positions,” says Robbins. “And that's why this is something that we need to know about.”

President Bush has tapped five fellow Bonesmen to join his administration. Most recently, he selected William Donaldson, Skull and Bones 1953, the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Like the President, he's taken the Bones oath of silence. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosenbaum, author and columnist for the New York Observer, has become obsessed with cracking that code of secrecy.

“I think there is a deep and legitimate distrust in America for power and privilege that are cloaked in secrecy. It's not supposed to be the way we do things,” says Rosenbaum. “We're supposed to do things out in the open in America. And so that any society or institution that hints that there is something hidden is, I think, a legitimate subject for investigation.”

His investigation is a 30-year obsession dating back to his days as a Yale classmate of George W. Bush. Rosenbaum, a self-described undergraduate nerd, was certainly not a contender for Bones. But he was fascinated by its weirdness.

“It's this sepulchral, tomblike, windowless, granite, sandstone bulk that you can't miss. And I lived next to it,” says Rosenbaum. “I had passed it all the time. And during the initiation rites, you could hear strange cries and whispers coming from the Skull and Bones tomb.”

Despite a lifetime of attempts to get inside, the best Rosenbaum could do was hide out on the ledge of a nearby building a few years ago to videotape a nocturnal initiation ceremony in the Tomb's courtyard.

“A woman holds a knife and pretends to slash the throat of another person lying down before them, and there's screaming and yelling at the neophytes,” he says.

Robbins says the cast of the initiation ritual is right out of Harry Potter meets Dracula: “There is a devil, a Don Quixote and a Pope who has one foot sheathed in a white monogrammed slipper resting on a stone skull. The initiates are led into the room one at a time. And once an initiate is inside, the Bonesmen shriek at him. Finally, the Bonesman is shoved to his knees in front of Don Quixote as the shrieking crowd falls silent. And Don Quixote lifts his sword and taps the Bonesman on his left shoulder and says, ‘By order of our order, I dub thee knight of Euloga.’"

It’s a lot of mumbo-jumbo, says Robbins, but it means a lot to the people who are in it.

“Prescott Bush, George W's grandfather, and a band of Bonesmen, robbed the grave of Geronimo, took the skull and some personal relics of the Apache Chief and brought them back to the tomb,” says Robbins. “There is still a glass case, Bonesmen tell me, within the tomb that displays a skull that they all refer to as Geronimo.”

“The preoccupation with bones, mortality, with coffins, lying in coffins, standing around coffins, all this sort of thing I think is designed to give them the sense that, and it's very true, life is short,” says Rosenbaum. “You can spend it, if you have a privileged background, enjoying yourself, contributing nothing, or you can spend it making a contribution.”

And plenty of Bonesmen have made a contribution, from William Howard Taft, the 27th President; Henry Luce, the founder of Time Magazine; and W. Averell Harriman, the diplomat and confidant of U.S. presidents.

“What's important about the undergraduate years of Skull and Bones, as opposed to fraternities, is that it imbues them with a kind of mission for moral leadership,” says Rosenbaum. “And it's something that they may ignore for 30 years of their life, as George W. Bush seemed to successfully ignore it for quite a long time. But he came back to it.”

Mr. Bush, like his father and grandfather before him, has refused to talk openly about Skull and Bones. But as a Bonesman, he was required to reveal his innermost secrets to his fellow Bones initiates.

“They're supposed to recount their entire sexual histories in sort of a dim, a dimly-lit cozy room. The other 14 members are sitting on plush couches, and the lights are dimmed,” says Robbins. “And there's a fire roaring. And the, this activity is supposed to last anywhere from between one to three hours.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What’s the point of this?

”I believe the point of the year in the tomb is to forge such a strong bond between these 15 new members that after they graduate, for them to betray Skull and Bones would mean they'd have to betray their fourteen closest friends,” says Robbins.

One can't help but make certain comparisons with the mafia, for example. Secret society, bonding, stakes may be a little higher in one than the other. But everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of protection.

“I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum.

Bones is not restricted to the Republican Party. Yet another Bonesman has his eye on the Oval Office: Senator John Kerry, Democrat, Skull & Bones 1966.

“It is fascinating isn't it? I mean, again, all the people say, ‘Oh, these societies don't matter. The Eastern Establishment is in decline.’ And you could not find two more quintessential Eastern establishment, privileged guys,” says Rosenbaum. “I remember when I was a nerdy scholarship student in the reserve book room at, at the Yale Library, and John Kerry, who at that point styled himself ‘John F. Kerry’ would walk in.”

“There was always a little buzz,” adds Rosenbaum. “Because even then he was seen to be destined for higher things. He was head of the Yale Political Union, and a tap for Skull and Bones was seen as the natural sequel to that.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Brooks, a conservative commentator who has published a book on the social dynamics of the upwardly mobile, says that while Skull & Bones may be elite and secret, it's anything but exciting.

“My view of secret societies is they're like the first class cabin in airplanes. They're really impressive until you get into them, and then once you're there they're a little dull. So you hear all these conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones,” says Brooks.

“And to me, to be in one of these organizations, you have to have an incredibly high tolerance for tedium 'cause you're sittin' around talking, talking, and talking. You're not running the world, you're just gassing.”

Gassing or not, the best-connected white man's club in America has moved reluctantly into the 21st Century.

“Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women,” says Robbins. “The day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bonesmen, including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the initiation claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date rape. Again more legal wrangling; finally it came down to another vote and women were admitted and initiated.”

But Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”

On balance, it may be bizarre, but on a certain perspective, does it provide something of value?

“You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle. They spill their guts with each other, fine. But they learn something beyond themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community,” says Brooks. “And maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.”

And is that relationship, in some cases, stronger that family or faith?

“Absolutely,” says Robbins. “You know, they say, they say the motto at Yale is, ‘For God, for country, and for Yale.’ At Bones, I would think it's ‘For Bones.'”


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To: EsclavoDeCristo
His investigation is a 30-year obsession dating back to his days as a Yale classmate of George W. Bush. Rosenbaum, a self-described undergraduate nerd, was certainly not a contender for Bones. But he was fascinated by its weirdness.

So even after 30 years, this guy is STILL torqued over not being part of the IN group? He needs to get a REAL life!!

41 posted on 10/08/2003 11:05:41 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Brian Allen
"does great anonymous Good and great anonymous Charity"...
if its anonymous, how do we or anyone know its being done, and by them?
42 posted on 10/08/2003 11:06:49 PM PDT by isom35
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To: CyberCowboy777
Don't be a f___ head. And don't ping me.
43 posted on 10/08/2003 11:14:35 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: CyberCowboy777
Haliburton?
44 posted on 10/08/2003 11:16:25 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Brian Allen
Oh, sorry, I didn't realize America's mode of government was was "Battle of The Secret Societies." This is Abuse. Arguments is down the hall.
45 posted on 10/08/2003 11:18:12 PM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: stands2reason
grow up
46 posted on 10/08/2003 11:32:08 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (HEY! LA Times! - Arnold won - 63% voted (Republican) - roll that in your paper and smoke it!)
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To: weegee
Not big on fish myself.
47 posted on 10/08/2003 11:33:03 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (HEY! LA Times! - Arnold won - 63% voted (Republican) - roll that in your paper and smoke it!)
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To: Fledermaus
Besides, I thought it was the Masons that ruled the world.

No, no, no! That's what they want you to believe. Don't you know it's actually the Trilateral Commission? ;o)

48 posted on 10/08/2003 11:44:25 PM PDT by lorrainer (I talk too much... I go to On-and-On-and-On-Anon meetings....)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
This Skull and Bones story is so old. The Dems brought it up during the last election. Same ole, same ole with the Dems. No ideas, no plans, just trash. Desperation is showing more every day. If they don't win something soon, we might have to put them in the straight jackets or looney bins for sure.
49 posted on 10/09/2003 12:11:48 AM PDT by GOP-Pat
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To: nopardons

50 posted on 10/09/2003 12:12:01 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: weegee
nah, not Al-Jazeera... It's Jeff Rense
51 posted on 10/09/2003 12:17:15 AM PDT by PurVirgo (What would you do if FR was no more?? Please support FR!!!)
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To: martin_fierro
That's halfway a compliment. ANYONE who sings wouldn't mind looking like a Whiff if he also SOUNDED like one.

SM, '72, Baker's Dozen (if ya don't get it, ya don't get it)

52 posted on 10/09/2003 12:20:52 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
CBS News, Bush, and Demonrats aside... I can understand gradeschool children, and highschool children, and even college children, playing clubhouse games like this.

But for grown adults to continue to take it seriously? *Please*...

I have nothing but contempt for anyone in a position of authority who still cares a whit for this sort of infantile nonsense, and I don't want them determining *anything* about the course of my life. And that goes for politicians, commanding officers, managers, and the cop on the corner. Grow up, or get the Hellary out of my life. Get out of my face, get out of my life, get off my planet. Period.

53 posted on 10/09/2003 12:24:58 AM PDT by fire_eye
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To: LA Conservative
"The LA Times is reporting that the Skull and Bones society uses the blood of liberal's children to make their holiday pastry."

Great segway for the Tainted Blood scandal. What kind of secret society keeps that one quiet?
54 posted on 10/09/2003 2:26:47 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (California our next Kosovo?)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
This is so sad. I can't believe that CBS news would piblish this.


55 posted on 10/09/2003 2:31:28 AM PDT by Tempest
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To: Jumper
How do you tell good and evil? Check things by the fruit that they bear. I think that will be my new tag line for a while.

"I like the idea that rich people would come together and strengthen their bonds - after all, political parties do the same for much the same reason. Very reasonable, very practical...."

I'm even more glad that the entire meltingpot has the FR, where anyone with a little sense and a lot of concern [or vice versa] can come and bond. This is the next level.
56 posted on 10/09/2003 2:43:58 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Telling good from evil: check the fruit it bears.)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
“It's this sepulchral, tomblike, windowless, granite, sandstone bulk that you can't miss. And I lived next to it,” says Rosenbaum. “I had passed it all the time. And during the initiation rites, you could hear strange cries and whispers coming from the Skull and Bones tomb.”

From a windowless, granite, sandstone edifice this guy hears whispers? Time to stop reading when the lies appear.

57 posted on 10/09/2003 2:58:11 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: LA Conservative
Nothing like like right-wing conspiracies and the left-wingers that believe them.

HI. You must be new to the game. This is not a "conspiracy"....this is a long documented fact. Whether or not it means anything remains to be seen. But the Skull and Bones legacy....and the Bush's (and many other power players) involvement in it are WELL documented.
58 posted on 10/09/2003 3:25:00 AM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
This is stupid--even for CBS news.
59 posted on 10/09/2003 3:29:09 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: martin_fierro
You look like a Whiffenpoof.

You smell like a cheesypoof!

<|:-)~~

60 posted on 10/09/2003 4:24:42 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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