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RATZINGER APPEARS TO FULFILL MALACHY PROPHECY [De Gloria Olivae]
SpiritDaily.com ^ | 04-19-05 | SpiritDaily.com

Posted on 04/19/2005 10:31:35 PM PDT by Salvation

RATZINGER APPEARS TO FULFILL MALACHY PROPHECY

The moment was one only the Church could pull off: a massive crowd, the ultimate in suspense, fantastic pageantry to match the glory of God.

In fact, even a Fox News commentator commented that on a cloudy day, the sun uncannily erupted at the time of announcement and Rome embraced spring.

It was Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, dean of the College of Cardinals, close confidant of John Paul II, celebrant of the last pope's funeral, and keeper of the flame who became the 265th pontiff.

He is a man who will maintain an accent on orthodoxy as well as on the Blessed Mother -- whom he mentioned right away in his first moments as pontiff.

Pope Benedict XVI is an elderly but strong pope who will bring both immense intellect and force with an unwavering way of presenting the Catholicism of John Paul II.

The name Benedict seemed a strong signal on many levels. It was St. Benedict who was noted for his strong power against the devil -- this important at a time of heightened spiritual warfare -- and the order Benedict founded, the Benedictines, is also known as the "Olivetans." St. Benedict prophesied that the last pope would be from that order.

And it was allegedly St. Malachy of Ireland who prophesied that the Pope after John Paul II  ("Labor of the sun") would be "Glory of the Olives."

St. Malachy's list described a pope later identified as Leo XIII with the words lumen in caelo (light in the heavens), and in fact that pope's coat of arms included a shooting star. Benedict XV was supposedly religio depopulata -- "religion devastated" (he served during World War I); John XXIII, who had served in the port city of Venice, was pastor et nauta ("shepherd and sailor"); and Paul VI was flos florum, or flower of flowers, and his coat of arms indeed displayed the fleur-de-lis (a pattern of flowers). Pope John Paul I was depicted as de medietate lunae, which means "from half of the moon -- and the first two letters of his family name, Luciani, form half of the word "luna," while the current pope, John Paul II was de labore solis, from the labor of the sun (with no clear explanation, although perhaps there is a connection in that he was born the year of an eclipse, and also: his working devotion to the "woman clothed with the sun"). 

That left two popes on St. Malachy's alleged list. One was described as De gloria olivae (from the glory of the olive) and the last as Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman). It is Peter the Roman who is said to reign during tribulations that will include the destruction of Rome.

Whatever the merits of such claims, the last pope named Benedict came during great Church disarray and just before the tumult of World War I. Meanwhile, Cardinal Ratzinger -- who is responsible for rescuing the apparition site of Medjugorje from rejection by a local bishop -- is known for a strong stance on family value and life. He is also a strict disciplinarian who may well address the priestly crisis in a new and stronger way.

[see also: Taking a close look at that alleged St. Malachy prophecy]



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To: sinkspur
Suppose it's all true? Suppose there really IS a Time Cube? Suppose Alex Chiu's Eternal Life Rings really DO grant immortality?

Won't you feel stupid THEN???

41 posted on 04/20/2005 6:22:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: sinkspur
LOL!! Exactly! Otherwise, you just feed the "seers" cigarette habits!

Hey, I once had a vision when I was out on a smoke break too. (/just kidding).

42 posted on 04/20/2005 6:24:21 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (habemus papum, Benedict XVI)
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To: Salvation

Benedictines are not "also known as Olivetans." The entire basis for linking "Gloria olivae" to Benedictines is garbage, nonsense, stupidity. Saying that "Olivetans" is another name for "Benedictines" is like saying that another name for horses is Percherons.


43 posted on 04/20/2005 6:25:00 AM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: sinkspur

Like most other Christians, I, too, long for the return of the Lord and our gathering to him.

It's just that we were warned to avoid dating these things. Each time someone has violated that it has so inflamed the passions of followers that they've ceased being useful, taken up residence on a local hillside, and sat on their haunches awaiting the end.

I don't know if it's an apocryphal story or not, but supposedly, someone once asked Martin Luther what he'd do if found out the Lord would return on the following day. His response was: "Go plant a tree."

Folks can think what they want on these things, but the thoughtful ones realize this stuff is in God's hands, and that it's best to live in hope but to continue our work within each individual day.


44 posted on 04/20/2005 6:26:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: murphE
Satan will often mimic Our Lord to lead people astray. Skepticism is prudent here.

AH! Call the Vatican, a miracle! Can we attribute this to JPII? I am in agreement with MurphE and Sinkspur at the same time. (j/k j/k!)

This is exactly right.
45 posted on 04/20/2005 6:27:21 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Lazamataz; sinkspur; murphE
The Q-Ray
46 posted on 04/20/2005 6:30:34 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Lazamataz
That means the next Pope is gonna be named Peter and will be the Antichrist. Which poses a dilemma for us Jews who don't think the Messiah's made it yet.

Another morning reading FR whilst drinking coffee, another call to IT to replace another keyboard.
47 posted on 04/20/2005 6:30:58 AM PDT by te lucis (Our Lady is insulted. Let us go forth and fight! - Cristeros hymn)
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To: Dominick

A miracle or another sign that the end is near? ;-)


48 posted on 04/20/2005 6:31:37 AM PDT by murphE (Never miss an opportunity to kiss the hand of a holy priest.)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

Another name for "electronics" is "cell phones".


49 posted on 04/20/2005 6:32:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Salvation
"Dan," who predicted that on February 22, 2005 a new pope "will appear, and will call himself Pope Benedict XVI

Oh. Well. That's different. If Dan said it, that lends it an undeniable air of credibility.
50 posted on 04/20/2005 6:34:19 AM PDT by te lucis (Our Lady is insulted. Let us go forth and fight! - Cristeros hymn)
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To: xzins
Folks can think what they want on these things, but the thoughtful ones realize this stuff is in God's hands, and that it's best to live in hope but to continue our work within each individual day.

Well put.

51 posted on 04/20/2005 6:35:24 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (habemus papum, Benedict XVI)
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To: Dominick
The Q-Ray's some pretty impressive technology.

But Alex Chui's got you beat.

Here, we see an animal moving it's arm to eat, thusly proving that animals are merely living magnets.

Food is positively charged. The most negatively charged item is the acid of your stomach. The next most negative is the acid in your intestine. The next most negative stuff is your blood. Then finally, food is distributed to your flesh, which is the most positive.

52 posted on 04/20/2005 6:37:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Lazamataz
He is right! I can live forever!
Even better I don't need to pay for the ring!
I just need to eat pie!



I love engineering hucksters.
53 posted on 04/20/2005 6:45:06 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Salvation

This is inaccurate in several respects.

First of all, the Benedictines are not as a group called "Olivetans." The Olivetans were a branch of Benedictine reformers, striving for a more austere and ascetical monastic practice. Even at their peak centuries ago, they never more than a small minority within the Benedictine Order, and now they are much dwindled in number.

So that's a very slender connection to Olives.

Also, Benedict XVI is not, and never was, a member of the Benedictine Order. So the slender connection turns out to be no connection at all.

Secondly, Cardinal Ratzinger never endorsed the reported Medjugorge mystical phenomena, and says that supportive statements published hither and yon were "made up out of thin air."

You can read about that here:

www.unitypublishing.com/newswire/finaldec.html


54 posted on 04/20/2005 6:49:09 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Smartass

That was interesting.


55 posted on 04/20/2005 6:54:44 AM PDT by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hi Mrs. D!
How's the schooling going?
We are getting serious about our "Latin is Not so Tough" lessons here!


56 posted on 04/20/2005 6:58:12 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Oh Lord help me this day to keep my big mouth shut)
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To: Dominick
Does that come in gold? It would go with more of my other accessories. (I would settle for tri-colored black hills gold even if it is sooooo 80's.)
57 posted on 04/20/2005 7:09:41 AM PDT by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: annalex

What do you think of all this Annalex?

Is this our version of the evangelical anticipation of all things apocalyptic?


58 posted on 04/20/2005 7:09:49 AM PDT by Askel5 ( Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us )
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To: Mrs. Don-o

But is he associated with that "Secret Opus Dei" society?


59 posted on 04/20/2005 7:10:42 AM PDT by Jaded (My sheeple, my sheeple....)
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To: Jaded
"Secret Opus Dei" society?

BONK-BONK

BONK-BONK

BONK-BONK
60 posted on 04/20/2005 7:14:41 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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