Chojnacki wrote in the letter, dated Monday, that he had participated in the funerals of several gay Jesuit clergy over the last few years.
No ages are specified but one can conclude by this statement that the acceptance of homosexuals into the Jesuit order predates VCII. Any concrete source information would also be appreciated.
The "orientation" itself is a sin, in the same way that lust and coveting are sins. In this case it may also be a mental/emotional disorder, but it's still a sin. At least address the disorder first. And the LAST thing that should happen to men with this disorder is that they live with a bunch of other homosexuals their whole lives. You don't see the church setting up house for heterosexual priests and hetersexual nuns and just telling them to be celibate. (Not that you can even compare natural sexuality with the unnatural type.) If they are attracted to men, wouldn't they be better off living in the women's quarters with lesbian nuns? One gay priest to one lesbian nun. At least that would make more sense.
Let's not beat around the bush. Homosexuality is a behavior. When that behavior is engaged in one is a homosexual. Before that point, one is not. If one gives that behavior up, then one is no longer a homosexual.
Even the CDC bases their statistics on BEHAVIOR.
Therefore, these Jesuits are idiots. To the extent that men had sex with men, these priests were unfit for the priesthood.
The pope is right. They are wrong.
Could you please repost the information from yesterday's thread to this one ... thanks.
"because of their sexual orientation"
I think we need to work harder at taking the vocabulary back. That battle was ceded to the forces of evil without even a fight.
There is no such thing as a "sexual orientation."
Everyone is heterosexual. Unfortunately, some fall prey to same-sex attraction disorder, which manifests itself as a compulsion to engage in loathsome perversions.
The entire latticework of self-deception, myths, and outright lies that has been erected in the effort to present those disordered compulsions as healthy and normal must be pulled down, and it makes sense to attack the foundations first.
It is a well-known precept among "revolutionaries" that, if you want to change the way people think, first change the words they use. Pushing the acceptance of terms like "gay" and "sexual orientation" is a part of that.
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New Vatican Rule Said to Bar Gays as New Priests (ABOUT TIME)
VATICAN: HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT TO BE ORDAINED AS CATHOLIC PRIESTS
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Gay Men Ponder Impact of (Anti-Gay Clergy)Proposal by Vatican(Barf Alert)
Aquinas Seminary is First for Scrutiny
Vatican Begins Inspections At St. Louis Seminary (Rector: No homosexuality-pedophilia link)
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Defrock him and move on.
The chaplain of St. Louis U. (Jesuit-run) law school back in the early 90's, can't recall his name, was very outgoing and nice to students, but VERY effeminate and used to say the Lord's name in vain (GD) like it was nothing.
The Jesuits need to reform. There are some good ones, but there are some very naughty ones as well.