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The Good Friday-Easter Sunday Question
Good News Magazine ^ | March 2000 | Wilber Berg

Posted on 04/10/2009 10:32:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC

The Good Friday—Easter Sunday Question

How do the biblical three days and three nights after Jesus Christ's crucifixion fit between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning? Or do they?

by Wilbur Berg

Consider these important facts. First, Easter Sunday is traditionally revered as the day of Jesus' resurrection—although the Bible clearly states that He had already risen before Sunday dawned in the city of Jerusalem.

Second, even though Good Friday is generally observed as the traditional day of His crucifixion, Christ Himself told the disciples that He would be in the grave for all of three days and three nights. How can three days and three nights possibly fit between a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection?

Third, the word Easter is not found in the Greek New Testament. Nor is there biblical mention of or instruction to observe Lent.

Finally, unlike the specific instruction to commemorate Christ's death, there is absolutely no commandment in the New Testament to observe the date of Jesus' resurrection. Yet today's religious customs are so ingrained in the church calendar that many would consider it heretical to question them.

Most of the world is scarcely aware that the original apostles did not institute or keep these customs, nor were they observed by the early Christian Church. Try as you might to find them, Lent, Good Friday and Easter are not so much as mentioned in the original Greek wording of the New Testament. (The word Easter appears only once in the King James Version of the Bible—in Acts 12:4—where it is flagrantly mistranslated from the Greek word pascha, which should be translated "Passover," as most versions render it.)

The justification for the Lenten 40-day preparation for Easter is traditionally based on Jesus' 40-day wilderness fast before His temptation by Satan (Harper's Bible Dictionary, "Lent"; Matthew 4:1-2; Mark 1:13). The problem with this explanation is that this incident is not connected in any way with Jesus' supposed observance of Easter. The 40-day pre-Easter practice of fasting and penance did not originate in the Bible.

Pagan practices adopted

Many people still follow such practices, assuming that such activities honor God and are approved by Him. But, we should ask, how does God regard such extrabiblical customs? Consider God's instructions to those who would worship Him:

"Take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.' You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it" (Deuteronomy 12:30-32, emphasis added throughout).

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia notes: "The term Easter was derived from the Anglo-Saxon 'Eostre,' the name of the goddess of spring. In her honor sacrifices were offered at the time of the vernal [spring] equinox" (1982, Vol. 2, "Easter").

Many battles were fought over its observance date, but the Council of Nicea finally fixed the date of Easter in A.D. 325 to fall on the first Sunday after the full moon on or after the vernal equinox (March 21).

Not generally known is that "the preparation for Easter season, beginning on Ash Wednesday and continuing for a week after Easter Day, was filled with pagan customs that had been revised in the light
of Christianity. Germanic nations, for example, set bonfires in spring. This custom was frowned on by the Church, which tried to suppress it . . . In the sixth and seventh centuries [monks] came to Germany, [bringing] their earlier pagan rites[,] and would bless bonfires outside the church building on Holy Saturday. The custom spread to France, and eventually it was incorporated into the Easter liturgy of Rome in the ninth century. Even today the blessing of the new fire is part of the Vigil of Easter.

"Medieval celebrations of Easter began at dawn. According to one old legend, the sun dances on Easter morning, or makes three jumps at the moment of its rising, in honor of Christ's resurrection. The rays of light penetrating the clouds were believed to be angels dancing for joy.

"Some Easter folk traditions that have survived today are the Easter egg, rabbit and lamb. During medieval times it was a tradition to give eggs at Easter to servants. King Edward I of England had 450 eggs boiled before Easter and dyed or covered with gold leaf. He then gave them to members of the royal household on Easter day. The egg was an earlier pagan symbol of rebirth and was presented at the spring equinox, the beginning of the pagan new year.

"The Easter rabbit is mentioned in a German book of 1572 and also was a pagan fertility symbol. The Easter lamb goes back to the Middle Ages; the lamb, holding a flag with a red cross on a white field, represented the resurrected Christ [rather than the sacrifice of His life, as a fulfillment of the Passover lamb, that paid for the sins of the world (John 1:29)]" (Anthony Mercatante, Facts on File Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, 1988, "Easter").

Passover out, Easter in

Easter traditions are embraced by many who profess Christianity. Yet none of these practices are found in the Bible or the customs of the early Church. Jesus and His apostles did not establish or perpetuate such practices, which obscure the true biblical meanings and observances of this time of year. In fact, a fourth-century church historian, Socrates Scholasticus, wrote in his Ecclesiastical History that neither the apostles nor the Gospels taught the observance of Easter, nor did they or Jesus give a law requiring the keeping of this feast. Instead, "the observance originated not by legislation, but as a custom" (chapter 22, emphasis added).

Even as early as the close of the second century, the theologian Irenaeus bore witness in his letter to Victor, bishop of Rome, that some early Roman bishops forbade the observance of Passover on the 14th of Nisan. This was the date of the biblical observance practiced each spring by Jesus and the apostles. At the time that the Nisan 14 Passover observance was banned, ecclesiastical authorities introduced Lent and Easter into Christian practice.

Distorting Jesus' words

A century later the Syriac Didascalia recorded the attempts of teachers in Rome to reconcile Jesus' words that He would be entombed "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40) with a Friday-afternoon crucifixion and a Sunday-morning resurrection. According to their reasoning, Jesus' sufferings were part of the three days and three nights of Scripture. Friday morning from 9 to noon was counted as the first day, and noon to 3 p.m. (which was darkened) was considered the first night. Three in the afternoon to sunset was reckoned as the second day, whereas Friday night to Saturday morning constituted the second night. The daylight part of Saturday was the third day, and the night portion to Sunday morning was the third night.

In other words, the three days and three nights in the grave that Jesus said would be the sign that He was indeed sent from God were transformed into a period of two days and two nights, or a total of no more than 48 hours. This has subsequently been reduced even further in modern times by figuring from late afternoon Friday to early Sunday morning, which takes away another 12 hours or more. Such reasoning has to discount or somehow explain away Jesus' clear promise that He would be entombed three days and three nights.

Easter and Lent are nonbiblical and were not observed by the apostles or the first-century Church. The biblical record shows, however, that the early Church diligently kept other observances, the New Testament Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread, just as Jesus and the apostles had done (Matthew 26:17-19; Acts 20:6; 1 Corinthians 5:8; 11:23-26). These were supplanted in later years by the customs and practices of Easter and Lent.

Passover is an annual reminder of Jesus' sacrificial death to pay the penalty for our sins (Matthew 26:26-28). The Feast of Unleavened Bread is a celebration that focuses on a Christian's need to live in sincerity, truth and purity (1 Corinthians 5:8). The nonbiblical festivals of Lent and Easter, added decades after the time of Jesus Christ and the apostles, only cloud the true significance of Christ's life, death and resurrection and the purpose of His coming.

The Passover, instituted in Exodus 12, continues by Jesus Christ's example and command—but with a change of symbols. Jesus' death fulfilled the symbolism of the sacrificial Passover lamb (Matthew 26:17-28; John 1:29). However, the New Testament Passover has been improperly replaced as an annual memorial of the death of Christ by Easter. We are commanded to commemorate Christ's death, not His resurrection (1 Corinthians 11:23-28).

Facts about Jesus' last days

Jesus Christ's promise was fulfilled exactly as He said, a fact that is made clear when we study and compare the Gospel accounts. These records give a clear, logical explanation that is perfectly consistent with Christ's words. Let's focus on Jesus' last days on earth to gain the proper perspective and understanding of how and when these events occurred.

Jesus said that, like the prophet Jonah, He would be entombed three days and three nights and that He would be raised up the third day after His crucifixion and death (Matthew 12:39-40; 17:23; 20:19). Putting these scriptures together, we see that He was resurrected at the end of the third day after His death. Luke 23:44 shows that He died around the ninth hour (Jewish reckoning), or 3 p.m. He would have been buried within the next few hours so that His body could be entombed before the approaching Sabbath (John 19:31).

Jesus' resurrection could not have been
on a Sunday morning because John 20:1-2 shows that He had already risen before Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early in the morning, arriving "while it was still dark." Therefore, neither could His death have occurred Friday afternoon, since that would not allow for His body to be in the grave three days and three nights. Clearly, the Good Friday-Easter Sunday explanation and tradition is without scriptural foundation.

Notice also that John 19:31 mentions that the Sabbath immediately after Jesus' death was "a high day"—not the weekly seventh-day Sabbath (from Friday evening to Saturday evening), but one of the annual Sabbaths, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (see Leviticus 23:6-7), which can fall on any day of the week.

In fact, two Sabbaths—first an annual Holy Day and then the regular weekly Sabbath—are mentioned in the Gospel accounts, a detail overlooked by most people. This can be proven by comparing Mark 16:1 with Luke 23:56.

Mark's account tells us, "Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him" (Mark 16:1). However, Luke's account describes how the women who followed Jesus saw how His body was laid in the tomb. "Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils" for the final preparation of the body. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment" (Luke 23:56).

Mark tells us that the women bought the spices after the Sabbath, "when the Sabbath was past." Luke, however, tells us that they prepared the spices and oils, "and they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment." How could the women have bought spices after the Sabbath, yet then prepared them and rested on the same Sabbath?

That is obviously impossible—unless two Sabbaths are involved, with a day between them. Once we realize this, the two accounts become clear (see "The Chronology of Christ's Crucifixion and Resurrection," p. 18). Christ died near 3 p.m. and was placed in the tomb near sunset that day—a Wednesday in the year 31. That evening began the "high day" Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which fell on Thursday that year. The women rested on that day, then on Friday purchased and prepared the spices and oils for Jesus' body, which could not be done on either the Holy Day or the weekly Sabbath. They then rested again on the weekly Sabbath before going to the tomb before daybreak on Sunday morning, at which time they discovered that Christ had already been resurrected.

Two Sabbaths confirmed in text

The fact that two Sabbaths are involved is confirmed by Matthew 28:1, where the women went to the tomb "after the Sabbath." The Sabbath mentioned here is actually plural in the original Greek and should be translated "Sabbaths." Some Bible versions, including Alfred Marshall's Interlinear Greek-English New Testament, Ferrar Fenton's translation, Green's Literal Translation and Young's Literal Translation, make this clear.

Once we realize that two Sabbaths were involved—first an annual Holy Day, which was observed from Wednesday evening until Thursday evening, and the normal weekly Sabbath from Friday evening to Saturday evening, the fulfillment of Christ's words becomes clear.

The Savior of all humanity died near 3 p.m. on Wednesday and was buried shortly before sunset that day. From Wednesday sunset to Thursday sunset is one day and one night; from then until Friday sunset is two days and two nights; and from then until Saturday sunset is three days and three nights. Jesus Christ was resurrected at the end of this three-day and three-night period, near sunset on Saturday. Thus He was already risen long before the women came to the tomb before daylight on Sunday morning.

Jesus Christ's words were thus perfectly fulfilled, as verified by the Gospel accounts. He was not crucified on Friday afternoon, nor was He resurrected on a Sunday morning. The biblical evidence shows the Good Friday-Easter Sunday tradition to be a fabrication.

A correct harmonization of all the facts demonstrates that Jesus died near 3 p.m. that Wednesday afternoon, was entombed near sunset and was resurrected near sunset on Saturday, exactly three days and three nights later—just as He had stated. These are the facts, the correct biblical chronology that verifies the identity of Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

The chart on page 18 gives a day-by-day chronology of these events as described in the Gospel accounts.

The biblical festivals

Actually, the principal festivals and holidays observed by mainstream Christendom are a poor and pale reflection of true biblical teachings. Easter and Lent are a poor substitute for the wondrous truths revealed by keeping God's feasts.

The New Testament Church continued to observe the annual Passover to commemorate the death of Jesus Christ, but used the new symbols of bread and wine that He instituted (1 Corinthians 11:23-28). Today the members of the United Church of God commemorate this eminently important event in the same manner, in accordance with Christ's instructions. Again, the Bible contains no record of the Church observing Easter or Lent during the time of the apostles, nor any biblical command to observe Good Friday or Easter Sunday, especially since Christ did not die on Good Friday and was not resurrected on Easter Sunday. Instead, the apostles faithfully followed Christ's instructions to observe the biblical Passover "in remembrance" of Him (Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24-25). GN


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To: vladimir998
“I believe scripture. The book of Hebrews plainly tells us that for those under the new covenant Christ’s sacrifice is sufficient. Reference Hebrews, especially chapters 8, 9 and 10.”
So now you’re saying something different than mountn man did before?

I don't know mountn man or his beliefs well enough to read his mind.

But my question and point remain. If, as mountn man insisted, the OT has the “absolute same authority as the New Testament”, then does that mean you believe in killing people for adultery and for being rape victims when raped in the city limits. Do you or don’t you?

In a society not governed or ruled by God? Of course not.

Also, if Jesus observed animal sacrifices - and we are to do what He did as you are implying (”1Jn 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked”) then do you or do you not believe in sacrificing animals? Saying that Christ’s own sacrifice was sufficient doesn’t in itself mean that you are walking like Christ by NOT sacrificing animals.

These laws were added to the covenant until Christ came. Reference Galatians 3:19. This is a huge subject and it's study will take more time than I can take in posting.

You might want to start with this.

61 posted on 04/10/2009 12:10:28 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Mark 16:9 - Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.

This passage is quite a hurdle to jump over to claim that Christ did not rise on Sunday.

JM
62 posted on 04/10/2009 12:11:41 PM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: vladimir998
You wrote: “Where?” DouglasKC, it’s called the Commandment of Shatnez. You mean you’ve never heard of this? See Deuteronomy 22:11. I can’t believe you didn’t know about this.

What is it you believe God is forbidding here? And remember, Jewish law and tradition is not the same as what scripture actually reads.

63 posted on 04/10/2009 12:11:59 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: vladimir998
Uh, are you sure that they both have the ABSOLUTE SAME authority NOW?

ASOLUTELY!

The ONLY thing that has changed is that today, Christians are covered by grace, and not the law. The law still lets us know whats right and wrong, but we are no longer under condemnation, but grace.

In other words, would you support the execution of adulterers? (Lev. 20:10) How about stoning rape victims - if the rape happens inside the city limits? Deuteronomy 22:23-24

Deuteronomy 22: 22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death.

There is a profound difference between 24 and 25. 24 describes a woman who is having sex with another mans wife, it doesn't mention RAPE, but the wording lets us know that she is in town, where other people are around to protect her or come to her aid. That if she doesn't scream out, she is basically consenting.

25 directly mentions rape.

Read the entire passage in context and it becomes apparent that the Bible is talking about rape vs adultery, in the city or country. But it is eliminating the accusation of rape in the city.

64 posted on 04/10/2009 12:12:41 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: JohnnyM
Mark 16:9 - Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
This passage is quite a hurdle to jump over to claim that Christ did not rise on Sunday.

It depends on where you place English punctuation. Other translations read:

(MSG) [After rising from the dead, Jesus appeared early on Sunday morning to Mary Magdalene, whom he had delivered from seven demons. In this translation it doesn't say Jesus arose early on Sunday morning, but that he had already risen and APPEARED to Mary on Sunday morning. This is entirely consistent with a sabbath resurrection.

65 posted on 04/10/2009 12:16:51 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Well, read on:

"Are you also still without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person.... These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone." (Matt. 15:16-18,20)

Yes, the context was the washing of hands. But he's obviously not talking about hand-washing per se; he's talking about "defiled food" (which passes into the stomach and is expelled).

From a health perspective, eating "unclean foods" may well have been ill-advised -- there was a good chance of getting trichinosis from pork, and red tide could often poison shellfish, for example; but it is difficult to square such food safety issues with what Jesus actually said.

Jesus is pretty clear in saying that a person is not made unclean by what he eats; even pork or shellfish wouldn't defile him in God's eyes. It's what is already in a person's heart that defiles him.

One can also make a pretty good case that Peter's vision in Acts 10 is confirmation of this view; not to mention Paul's discussions of eating food sacrificed to idols.

66 posted on 04/10/2009 12:18:24 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: mountn man

You wrote:

“ASOLUTELY! The ONLY thing that has changed is that today, Christians are covered by grace, and not the law. The law still lets us know whats right and wrong, but we are no longer under condemnation, but grace.”

You’re contradicting yourself. If the OT had the SAME ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY - those were your words - then the punishments would be exactly the same today for anyone who believed the OT to be true. You know this as well. That’s exactly why you now make a distinction where you made none before. Cleary, if the age of grace has nullified the punishments of the law - we don’t believe women should be killed for being rape victims in city limits - then that means the OT does not any longer possess EXACTLY the SAME ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY. It’s authority is different in character or kind.

“There is a profound difference between 24 and 25. 24 describes a woman who is having sex with another mans wife, it doesn’t mention RAPE, but the wording lets us know that she is in town, where other people are around to protect her or come to her aid. That if she doesn’t scream out, she is basically consenting.”

No. Deuteronomy 22:25-27 makes it seem pretty clear that these are cases of forced sex.


67 posted on 04/10/2009 12:22:02 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: DouglasKC
Certainly. There were specific reasons why God suggested to avoid certain blend proportions of wool and linen. It could have had to do the integrity of the mix (wool is animal and linen is plant) or it could have had to do with the climate at the time. But generally if God says not to do it's undoubtedly correct.

I have a strong suspicion that the reason was much more practical than that: perhaps people were mixing expensive linen threads with cheap wool ones, and then selling "linen" garments to unsuspecting customers at vastly inflated prices.

Sort of like the Chinese spiking foods with melamine ....

68 posted on 04/10/2009 12:22:32 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: DouglasKC

You wrote:

“These laws were added to the covenant until Christ came.”

And until Christ came there was only one covenant and only one testament. When Christ came, however, there was a new covenant, and later a new testament, and still later new festivals. That’s the point.


69 posted on 04/10/2009 12:24:33 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: r9etb
Yes, the context was the washing of hands. But he's obviously not talking about hand-washing per se; he's talking about "defiled food" (which passes into the stomach and is expelled).

The context is indeed ritual washing. And Jesus told his disciples and us what he meant:

Mat 15:16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
Mat 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mat 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

The issue was ritual washing of hands, a tradition that Jews invented, not something scripturally commanded. The food laws, on the other hand, were something that Christ himself commanded.

Your interpretation, though common, is a mistake in that it is done through a prism of tradition that disagrees with biblical precepts and practices.

70 posted on 04/10/2009 12:25:22 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: r9etb
I have a strong suspicion that the reason was much more practical than that: perhaps people were mixing expensive linen threads with cheap wool ones, and then selling "linen" garments to unsuspecting customers at vastly inflated prices. Sort of like the Chinese spiking foods with melamine ....

You very well could be right.

71 posted on 04/10/2009 12:26:15 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

You wrote:

“What is it you believe God is forbidding here?”

No, what do YOU think He is forbidding there?

“And remember, Jewish law and tradition is not the same as what scripture actually reads.”

So a law in the Bible isn’t actually what it says? You’re not making sense. I listed the verse.


72 posted on 04/10/2009 12:26:21 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
You wrote: “These laws were added to the covenant until Christ came.” And until Christ came there was only one covenant and only one testament. When Christ came, however, there was a new covenant, and later a new testament, and still later new festivals. That’s the point.

The holy days of the Lord were not added. They predated the old covenant. They were not part of that covenant. They are the Lord's Holy days and he expects us to honor him by observing his days.

73 posted on 04/10/2009 12:29:26 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: vladimir998
You’re contradicting yourself. If the OT had the SAME ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY - those were your words - then the punishments would be exactly the same today for anyone who believed the OT to be true.

There's no contradiction, if your focus is on the spirit of the OT, and not just the written words in it. See John 5:39-40, wherein Jesus spells out the difference between the written words themselves, and the Message they convey.

Jesus taught that the contemporary Jewish take on the Old Testament was missing the point.

For example, look at what Jesus says 6 different times in in Matthew 5 -- "You have heard that it was said ... but I say to you..."

The spiritual authority of the Old Testament is unchanged by Jesus's New Testament message: it's still, "Love God, and Love your neighbor as yourself."

The words of the Old Testament, however.... if you simply rely on them without seeking the spirit, you're sunk.

74 posted on 04/10/2009 12:30:56 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: DouglasKC
The food laws, on the other hand, were something that Christ himself commanded.

Proof, please?

75 posted on 04/10/2009 12:31:38 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: DouglasKC

You wrote:

“You might want to start with this.”

The United Church of God? That’s a sect started by the cult leader Armstrong. And you want me to believe they got their facts straight when they couldn’t even realize they were in a cult for more than 40 years?


76 posted on 04/10/2009 12:31:39 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
You wrote: “What is it you believe God is forbidding here?” No, what do YOU think He is forbidding there? “And remember, Jewish law and tradition is not the same as what scripture actually reads.” So a law in the Bible isn’t actually what it says? You’re not making sense. I listed the verse.

It says to not wear clothes made out of certain blends of wool and linen. The reasons why and the specific blends are not given. It DOESN'T say you can't wear wool socks and a linen shirt.

77 posted on 04/10/2009 12:32:57 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Using The Message translation to defend your position is bringing the weak sauce.

Mark 16:9 is a clear indication of which day He rose, couple that with Lev 23:11 having the waving of the sheaf and the offering of the lamb occuring on a Sunday, and it is a pretty much an open and such case.

Every passage of the Bible dealing with visiting the tomb mention Sunday. Mark 16:9 makes plain that Christ rose on Sunday. There is no passage of Scripture that clearly points to it occurring Saturday as the day of Resurrection. And you are going to hang your hat on The Message?

All you have is conjecture, because your 7th Day Adventist mindset prevents you from accepting a Sunday Resurrection.

We can agree that a Friday death is unlikely based upon Scripture, but it is clear that He rose on Sunday.

JM
78 posted on 04/10/2009 12:35:24 PM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: DouglasKC
The holy days of the Lord were not added. They predated the old covenant. They were not part of that covenant.

That is incorrect. The old covenant was made between God and Abram, back in Genesis 15. God's specific references to Holy Days such as Passover and the Sabbath do not show up until the time of Moses, several hundred years later.

79 posted on 04/10/2009 12:36:09 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: vladimir998
You wrote: “You might want to start with this.” The United Church of God? That’s a sect started by the cult leader Armstrong. And you want me to believe they got their facts straight when they couldn’t even realize they were in a cult for more than 40 years?

United Church of God was started 10 years after Herbert Armstrong died. It's a completely different entity legally and doctrinally.

From a brief history of United Church of God:

Many of the current ministers and members of the United Church of God were once members of the Worldwide Church of God, a nonprofit corporation under the leadership of Herbert W. Armstrong until his death in 1986. A subsequent unwarranted shift toward nonbiblical practices and beliefs led numerous ministers and members to leave the fellowship of that organization.

Concerned with uneven administrative practices of the former assembly, more than 100 ordained ministers developed a new administrative structure that was more directly accountable to members and the ministry. A new 12-person Council of Elders, elected by a general assembly of all ordained ministers in United, was tasked with reviewing and independently documenting all core beliefs and doctrines of the Church, which above all must be true to the biblical record and not reliant on later divisive philosophical and theological traditions that were developed centuries after the original apostles. That task has been largely completed, and the Church's formal Statement of Fundamental Beliefs is published for all to see on its Web site: www.ucg.org/about/fundamentalbeliefs.htm.

Comparing United Church of God to Worldwide Church of God under Armstrong is in many ways like comparing Protestants to Catholics.

80 posted on 04/10/2009 12:39:07 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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