Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Was Jesus a Socialist?
Post Scripts ^ | 5/3/09 | OneVike

Posted on 05/03/2009 9:53:16 AM PDT by OneVike

It has been the aim of the Democrat party since they lost the Presidential election in 2004 to subvert the Christian doctrine with the claim that Jesus was a socialist. Their goal is to convince Christians that their Social agenda is morally equivalent with the teachings and life of Jesus Christ. Considering the lack of historical and Biblical knowledge most Americans have, it is not surprising that many have fallen for the misinformation on what Jesus taught (and for whom the teachings were given). These Biblical revisionists have become especially adept at cherry picking Scripture to suit their agenda. Hence, many have come to misunderstand the gospel of Christ by equating it with modern day Socialism.

My first point of contention with the idea that Christ was a socialist, is His teachings and the example of His life. Throughout the time that Christ lived with His disciples, He never worked. Instead he was dependent upon the charity and good hearts of those who surrounded Him. Now that is not to say Jesus was lazy or a bum either. Jesus was always about His Fathers business, and that business was the salvation of mankind. Nowhere in the Scriptures will you find Jesus telling His followers to rely upon anyone except those who were willing to hear the gospel and share what they had. If the people refused to hear the gospel or be charitable, Jesus told His disciples to rebuke them and go to others who were willing to hear the teachings, as when He sent them out by pairs. (Matthew chapter 10)

(Excerpt) Read more at norcalblogs.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: acts; compassion; jesus; no; religiousleft; socialism; wwjd
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-138 next last
I have been given an exclusive Front Page spot every Sunday morning on Post Scripts to present a religious sermon or apologetical argument to any relevant subjects that are currently in the news that relates to religion.

My first Front Page article is tackling the lie that Christ would be a Socialist in today's modern society. Type in the two words Christ and Socialism in Google and you will see thousands of listings of articles that claim Jesus was a Socialist so obviously He would support the agenda of the left in America.

It has been a concerted effort to sway the Christian vote towards the left since about 2004 when they lost the election. Exit polls showed that Christians overwhelmingly voted Republican, and rejected the socialist agenda of the Democrats. So, they needed to change the thinking of Christians when it came to their social agenda. They decided to convince Christians that Christ was a socialist.

4 years later the largest percentage of Christians voted Democrat in years. Now we have Socialists in control and nothing stopping their agenda.

In my article I expose their theory as a lie and prove that Christ was not a Socialist.
1 posted on 05/03/2009 9:53:17 AM PDT by OneVike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: OneVike

I cant believe how dumb people are.

Jesus said that the CHURCH should be the head of all things

NOT the State

When people brought all their belongings in to live as common, they brought their goods to the Apostles, NOT the Romans


2 posted on 05/03/2009 9:57:46 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

This isn’t a new effort, they’ve been creeping up through the main denominations for decades.


3 posted on 05/03/2009 10:02:16 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

I will say this again:

If Jesus returned right now, he wouldn’t go anyplace NEAR Washington, DC.


4 posted on 05/03/2009 10:03:05 AM PDT by Winstons Julia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
Subsidiarity, which is the idea that the smallest unit of organization capable of managing a problem should be in charge of that problem, is STILL the accepted doctrine of the Catholic Church and many other Christian Churches.

Very few Priests know anything about economics, and even less about Subsidiarity, though the concept IS in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Very few people understand the doctrine of Subsidiarity, but Socialism is CONTRARY to Christianity.

5 posted on 05/03/2009 10:03:46 AM PDT by Kansas58
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
If anything, God is a populist.

Christians are to differentiate themselves from the world (others, different from then, unsaved), put a wall around themselves, come out from among them, and preach/teach them into heaven, salvation

None of which was ever really questioned nor hated (on as mass a scale as witnesed today) until more recent times.

We're supposed to love our enemies (not kiss them), but make the academic, intellectual decision to accept them as God's creation but not necesarilly His children.

6 posted on 05/03/2009 10:06:13 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Winstons Julia
If Jesus returned right now, he wouldn’t go anyplace NEAR Washington, DC.

I disagree. Let's examine the facts of just WHO Jesus hung around with when he was here:

The "un-righteous"
The sinners
The weak/sick/infirmed
And lest we forget he forgave prostitutes, adulterers, the tax collectors, murderers and more.

I happen to think Jesusu would go right to Washington DC. Just look at what a bunch of heathen-bastards are running the place!!

(I post that comment in all seriousness.)

7 posted on 05/03/2009 10:10:56 AM PDT by usconservative (Attention Homeland Security: Obama Is A Terrorist - Don't Let Him Back Into America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Is any one else gettibng sick and tired of this old crap?

Socialism is a manmade politic system contruct. It is of the world, not of the WORD.
So as it has always been the answer to the silly question is NO.


8 posted on 05/03/2009 10:11:33 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

So the left goes from arguing Jesus didn’t exist, to Jesus wasn’t killing by the Romans, to Jesus wasn’t raised, to Jesus was a socialist.

Cmon stop already my head is spinning.


9 posted on 05/03/2009 10:12:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knarf
If anything, God is a populist.

I disagree. God is a CAPITALIST. There are more references to MONEY in the Bible than anything else including LOVE and FORGIVENESS.

There are more than 1,500 references to wealth and money in the Bible, which is more than double anything else including Love and Forgiveness.

By the way, how else do we know that God is a CAPITALIST? We need to look no further than his Son, Jesus Christ who admonished us to teach men to fish, rather than simply feeding them for a day.

10 posted on 05/03/2009 10:14:38 AM PDT by usconservative (Attention Homeland Security: Obama Is A Terrorist - Don't Let Him Back Into America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: <1/1,000,000th%; lady lawyer; OneVike; SendShaqtoIraq; ChicagahAl; SandRat; mia; HiTech RedNeck; ...

Let me know if you want added or removed from my editorial ping list.


11 posted on 05/03/2009 10:16:00 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

I”m sorry but you are wrong. You forget the sin against the Holy Ghost, it is unforgiveable. That is Washington DC.


12 posted on 05/03/2009 10:16:26 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Thanks for the ping!


13 posted on 05/03/2009 10:18:16 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Early Christians were communal, but with a belief in God, obviously, unlike Communists.


14 posted on 05/03/2009 10:23:04 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: usconservative
Populism does not eliminate nor reject capitalism ... Populism is the attitude, capitalism is the means ... apples and oranges.

Jesus' admonishment was for men to fish for other men to learn the Gospel and be saved ... some of His disciples were already fishermen of fish ... they needed no training from a carpenter, but they sure needed a few clues from God about spiritual matters.

15 posted on 05/03/2009 10:24:09 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
Please remove me from this list. I am a subsciber to FreeRepublic, not your personal blog or editorials, thanks! I choose the lists to which I subscribe. This seems more like a vanity post!

Have a nice life!

16 posted on 05/03/2009 10:24:56 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist.- Arth. C. Clarke's shortest story)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Wasn’t there a man and wife who died instantly when they didn’t give 100% of their money to the Apostles? That’s taxation Democrats would love (not applicable to themselves, of course).


17 posted on 05/03/2009 10:28:20 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

No, Christ would not have approved of socialism in any way shape or form. A system whereby individuals earn their pay and the legal structure fights immorality and abuses would be His preference, I would imagine. One of the 19th century popes, Leo XIII, laid it out beautifully in an encyclical, Rerum Novarum in 1891 (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13rerum.htm). I really wish all Catholics knew this.


18 posted on 05/03/2009 10:29:17 AM PDT by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue. http://www.thekingsmen.us/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
If anyone feels the urge, I would appreciate a comment on Post Scripts about my article.

It would make my articles a bit more palatable for the paper that carries them.

No pressure, but it would be nice.
19 posted on 05/03/2009 10:33:34 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

“If anything, God is a populist.
I disagree. God is a CAPITALIST. There are more references to MONEY in the Bible than anything else including LOVE and FORGIVENESS.”

There are more than 1,500 references to wealth and money in the Bible, which is more than double anything else including Love and Forgiveness.

By the way, how else do we know that God is a CAPITALIST? We need to look no further than his Son, Jesus Christ who admonished us to teach men to fish, rather than simply feeding them for a day.”

So you say he’s a Capitalist by virtue of what Jesus Christ said? Well, how about the Sermon on the Mount? “Woe unto you who are rich...”. Uh, that sounds more like a class envious redistributionist - excatly like Obama! LOL LOL LOL.

Religion is NOT Capitalistic, period. Religions do not encourage Individualism - it requires subserviance to God. And in this case “God” is manifested in any Religions hierarchy: a Pope, An Elder, A Pastor, or an Ayatollah - all of whom claim to speak for God. It requires altruism from all of us, only instead of sacrificng to The State Moral Code of Collectivism, we’re instead told to sacrifice to A Religious Moral Code of Collectivism. Religion, should anyone choose to follow it, is free to do so personally. But it should have no bearing or relevance as a guide to morality of an entire cultrue. The minute Religion starts attempting to shape political agendas - like abortion policy, where or whether the Ten Commandments need to be placed, or trying to outlaw gay marriage (or homosexuality as such), then there is substantively no difference between The Church’s Dictates and The State’s Dictates. Instead of arguing of whether a Master is to be served, Political Conservatives argue over WHICH Master to serve. But in neither case is Individual Freedom upheld as the Highest Moral Standard.


20 posted on 05/03/2009 10:40:00 AM PDT by antonico
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Moonman62
Wasn’t there a man and wife who died instantly when they didn’t give 100% of their money to the Apostles? That’s taxation Democrats would love (not applicable to themselves, of course).

Read the article I bring that up. Here is an excerpt.

We can also see in the Book of Acts that a Christian could give as much or as little as they wanted, as in the account of Ananias and his wife Sapphira. (Acts 5:1-10) The Scriptures tell us they were put to death by the Holy Spirit for lying about how much they received because they wanted everyone to believe they donated all the proceeds from some possessions they sold. The lesson we learn from the incident is that they were not required to give everything but to be honest about their donation.
21 posted on 05/03/2009 10:42:21 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
Thank you for the ping. I'm always looking for logical arguments against leftist talking points.



22 posted on 05/03/2009 10:44:20 AM PDT by TheOldLady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
No.

He didn't take the rich-man’s fortune, he gave that choice to the owner of the fortune, thus justifying private property.

And the tithe was based upon a tax base that considered anything higher than 3% to be obscene.

The entire notion of “being a good steward” to strengthen your family and to be an asset to your community runs directly in the face of the government confiscating your earnings, making you dependent upon the government, and then blowing that money through socialized programs that inevitably fail and destroy the ability of hard workers to earn future wealth, thus killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

For those who are interested, the infiltration of Socialism into Christian churches occurred (ASTONISHINGLY) at the same time that socialism was being pushed out into governmental policy. And (ASTONISHINGLY) they both had the same source: academe.

It was at this point that certain doctrines of the New Testament (aiding the poor, forsaking wealth and materialism) were reinterpreted and amplified to be used as a theological basis for pushing Socialism.

Socialism has been in the pulpit for as long as Wilson was “patient zero” for introducing the “swine-flu” of political and economic ideology directly into a major political party. He was the organism that successfully transmitted the disease from the pigs into the average man.

I'm still researching who played that role in the church, but so far I'm leaning toward Bishop G. Bromley Oxnam, early policy chairman for the Federal Council of Churches in Christ, which later became a major force in forming the World Council of Churches, a “religious” organization that, despite its pastors with deeply sympathetic eyes and empathetic lip-biting, is as red as you can get.

The Federal Council of Churches should not be confused with the American Council of Churches, which was a fundamentalist response to the politicizing of the pulpit.

Bromley was a communist/socialist. Wikipedia defends him, as they always do, by saying he was accused but defended himself. His record speaks for itself. He fought for Socialist revolution in America through religion. He aided Spanish communists. That he used sophistry to defend himself does not make him any less of a communist/socialist than he was.

23 posted on 05/03/2009 10:45:24 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: usconservative; Winstons Julia

I agree, he’d go right to DC, but only after he spoke to San Francisco. In his absence, we are to do His work.


24 posted on 05/03/2009 10:50:30 AM PDT by DeLaine (If love were oil, I'd be a quart low)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: OneVike; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[ Was Jesus a Socialist? ]

What was Jesus politically?.. He was/is/will be A KING...
He is a monarchist.. he owns literally everything, including the voters..

From the fartherest galazy even all the way to Detroit, Jesus OWNS it all..
Jesus evens OWNS Washington D.C..

25 posted on 05/03/2009 10:51:08 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hosepipe
So very true, dear brother in Christ. "King of Kings" is one of His Names:

And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. - Revelation 19:16

Thank you for sharing your views, dear brother in Christ!

26 posted on 05/03/2009 11:00:15 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Moonman62
Wasn’t there a man and wife who died instantly when they didn’t give 100% of their money to the Apostles

Yes..Ananias and Saphira in Acts Chapter 5. They sold land and kept back a portion but they lied that they sold it all. They lied to the Holy Spirit and thats why they died.

PS. The early Christians gave possessions to the church and not the state. HUGE difference!

27 posted on 05/03/2009 11:00:59 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: antonico
So you say he’s a Capitalist by virtue of what Jesus Christ said? Well, how about the Sermon on the Mount? “Woe unto you who are rich...”. Uh, that sounds more like a class envious redistributionist - excatly like Obama! LOL LOL LOL.

Lighten up, Francis.

There are more than 1,500 references to money in the Bible, both old and new testament. For every verse you may find that talks about the 'evils' of money or the mismanagement of it, I can probably find one that says something different.

Religions do not encourage Individualism - it requires subserviance to God. And in this case “God” is manifested in any Religions hierarchy: a Pope, An Elder, A Pastor, or an Ayatollah - all of whom claim to speak for God. It requires altruism from all of us, only instead of sacrificng to The State Moral Code of Collectivism

I see you're either an atheist or agnostic. Sorry, I'm not debating someone who's mind is already closed.

28 posted on 05/03/2009 11:03:36 AM PDT by usconservative (Attention Homeland Security: Obama Is A Terrorist - Don't Let Him Back Into America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: DeLaine
I agree, he’d go right to DC, but only after he spoke to San Francisco.

I dunno, I think Washington DC is worse. But then, I've never been to San Francisco. ;-)

29 posted on 05/03/2009 11:04:25 AM PDT by usconservative (Attention Homeland Security: Obama Is A Terrorist - Don't Let Him Back Into America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

Reputation alone, I was thinking. I think he’d be hard pressed today to choose between cities. So much work! So little time!


30 posted on 05/03/2009 11:10:22 AM PDT by DeLaine (If love were oil, I'd be a quart low)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver
Jesus was apolitical. His words prove it; Render unto Caeser the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's... Matthew 22:21
31 posted on 05/03/2009 11:10:30 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: DeLaine

No, He wasn’t. He was a preacher and a healer who happened to have a band of followers who traveled with him. The poor and the sick came to Him, and He worked with what He had.

Although I have heard a rumor that He smoked some medical marijuana just after they nailed Him to the cross.


32 posted on 05/03/2009 11:10:40 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart.........2012--can't come soon enough.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
Apologies if this is already in your piece, but I'm strapped for time.

This came up in Bible study last Sabbath during a study on the book of Acts. Some use the fact that everyone was selling everything and giving it to the church as evidence of socialism/communism. But here:

Acts 3 6 But Peter said, Silver and gold have I none, but what I have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk!

Peter says he has no money to give the beggar. A very strange statement for the leader of a church who should have had access to quite a large pile of dough at this point in history.

33 posted on 05/03/2009 11:10:40 AM PDT by Chris DeWeese (http://www.firstcenturychristianity.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: antonico; usconservative
[ The minute Religion starts attempting to shape political agendas ]

Jesus came to make ALL religion obsolete, AND DID...
"You MUST be born again"- Jesus

Some are, some are not..

34 posted on 05/03/2009 11:11:32 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: hosepipe

You either have Him in your heart or you don’t. You shouldn’t use Him to advance a personal political agenda (not talking about you, hosepipe, just certain other folks, left and right).


35 posted on 05/03/2009 11:13:21 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: OneVike; wardaddy; dixiechick2000; Martin Tell

Vike,

I think we’ve had this conversation.

In my heart I believe that the LAST thing The Lord would have pushed for is a Leviathan Statist Nanny that takes the place of the Kingdom of God in the hearts of men.


36 posted on 05/03/2009 11:14:35 AM PDT by Yudan (Living comes much easier once we admit we're dying.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

“I happen to think Jesusu would go right to Washington DC. Just look at what a bunch of heathen-bastards are running the place!!”

Except when Jesus returns it will be to collect believers. Its currently our job to go among those and spread his Word.


37 posted on 05/03/2009 11:18:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Clemenza
[ You either have Him in your heart or you don’t. You shouldn’t use Him to advance a personal political agenda (not talking about you, hosepipe, just certain other folks, left and right). ]

Literally EVERYONE is a preacher...
All are preaching loudly something by what they do, or do not, do..
What comes out our mouths(or pen) has some minor impact..

38 posted on 05/03/2009 11:18:49 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: usconservative

Socialism as an ideology sounds wonderful but in practical application it fails miserably. When the first Pilgrims settled here they brought their European socialism and they literally starved and suffered great lack. When it was decided to let each family farm its own crops then the bounty increased. This led to what we celebrate as Thanksgiving! I heard this taught in a sermon by the late Dr. D. James Kennedy.


39 posted on 05/03/2009 11:24:21 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
To a certain extent, they have a point.

The point is that central planning has to have absolute control over the economy and know the desires of the people. Hayek discusses this in "The Road to Serfdom".

But it is today's socialist/statist who presumes to know the right thing to do for a myriad of people and their wants and desires, and that in and of itself is an attempt for man to be God. It requires total control. By definition that violates the 1st commandment - "You shall not have any gods before Me."

Jesus, on the other hand, is the only Person who is qualified to be that leader. And that is what Scripture talks about: mankind needs a perfect King, and Jesus is that King. Jesus is God.

Willingly or unwillingly, every knee will bow before Him in the future.

40 posted on 05/03/2009 11:26:24 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hosepipe; RaceBannon; Alamo-Girl; Moonman62; antonico; usconservative; tflabo; driftdiver; ...
He is a monarchist.. he owns literally everything, including the voters.

I agree, but He is a benevolent Monarch that allows His subjects to enjoy the fruits of their labors while we await His eternal Kingdom to come.

We do speak of the here and now, and the parable of the talents (Matthew 25:14-30) & the parable of the parable of the Workers in the Vineyard (Matthew 20:1-16) tell us how He views money matters or capitalism while we live among the heathen.

That being said, I do believe the capitalism God suggested was much kinder and more honest then the capitalism most humans practice in today's modern society. Not that there are not honest capitalists, I work for one, but sadly most fall very short of the standard God expected man to follow.

One more point, Capitalism in its self is not a political entity, it is a monetary system. We on the earth practice different forms of monetary policy, and the policy of Capitalism in my humble opinion is the only one that respects an individuals personal freedom of choice. God is not a cosmic rapist, He wants us to come to Him willingly, and Capitalism allows for the prosperous to willingly help those in need.

That is the main Christian concept of sharing with those less fortunate, that is why some are blessed more than others. We are tested by what we get to see what our hearts will cherish, His precepts or our greed. God gives us all enough rope, the question is will we use it to hang our selves with it, or what Christ called us to do and help others who are truly in need.
41 posted on 05/03/2009 11:26:57 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Socialism - “Any of various political philosophies that support social and economic equality, collective decision-making, and public control of productive capital and natural resources, as advocated by socialists”

Jesus never supported any such socialism!

Jesus preached and taught to INDIVIDUALS — that individuals should love and give voluntarily! He never advocated that the State should take care of people nor that confiscatory taxes was the way to prosperity!


42 posted on 05/03/2009 11:28:34 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Jesus is a socialist in the same way that God is a dictator.

Human political terms are utterly inadequate to fully describe divinity.


43 posted on 05/03/2009 11:29:01 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Yudan
Yes we did, but there are many that need to hear it again, and again. As long as the left attempts to obfuscate and swindle we need to keep the masses awake.

Same concept of preaching every Sunday that Christ died for our sins and we need to accept Him to have salvation. We stop repeating it and we stop following the great commandment from (Matthew 28:18-20).
44 posted on 05/03/2009 11:31:53 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Bosco
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Thus the socialist statist from ego wants to 'solve' the problems of the people. Power goes to their heads and they become absolutely corrupted. The founders of this nation built the constitution on this premise and religious faith was necessary as a bedrock.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams --October 11, 1798

45 posted on 05/03/2009 11:34:11 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Remove me from the list, please.


46 posted on 05/03/2009 11:35:18 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Tu ne cede malis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Chris DeWeese

Awesome point, and there are many similar points to show that Christ did not usher in Social justice, but salvation for mankind.


47 posted on 05/03/2009 11:35:33 AM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: OneVike
“That being said, I do believe the capitalism God suggested was much kinder and more honest then the capitalism most humans practice in today's modern society.”

Don't be deceived by the propaganda of the MSM.

99% of capitalists (that is, each and everyone of us who wakes up and makes use of freedom, a free-market system, our interests and natural abilities to make a living) are honest, hard-working people.

The 1% that are greedy or criminal are the ones the MSM uses to denounce capitalism and call for its death by a thousand nicks, as Keynes said.

And let's not pretend that non- or anti-capitalists are somehow free of greed and dishonesty.

Greed is satisfied by two main vices: money and power. But they have the same unquenchable goal: worldly prominence. Those who seek money, do so because they believe it will make them powerful. Those who seek power do so because they believe it will make them wealthy.

And let's also be sure we do not confuse capitalists with corporatists, more and more of whom are becoming corporate socialists, colluding with government to establish monopoles. These are not capitalists, they are socialists. And they give all capitalists a bad name.

48 posted on 05/03/2009 11:35:46 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: OneVike

Ping to read later


49 posted on 05/03/2009 11:42:12 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Presbyterians often forget that John Knox had been a Sunday bowler.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

And look at past and present socialistic/statist forms of government. Do the people prosper???? Rather the elitist, selfish leaders live in greed and exalted pomp!


50 posted on 05/03/2009 11:42:19 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-138 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson