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Summorum Pontificum and reunion with the Eastern Orthodox
SummorumPontificum.net ^ | 9/23/09 | Brian Kopp

Posted on 09/23/2009 5:18:33 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Summorum Pontificum and reunion with the Eastern Orthodox

By Brian Kopp

A tantalizing headline is making its rounds in Catholic news circles: Is Catholic-Orthodox Unity in Sight?

In his Inside the Vatican Newsflash Letter #29 today, Dr. Robert Moynihan examines the implications of recent meetings between Rome and a representative of the Orthodox Patriarch of Moscow:

A fourth consideration is the relationship of the Roman Catholic Church to the world's Orthodox Churches.

It became clear last week, during a very cordial visit to Rome by a representative of the Orthodox Patriarch of Moscow, that relations between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, especially Russian Orthodoxy, at least on the surface, are much improved over the past few years.

Here are excerpts from an account of that visit I wrote for the Monday, September 21 edition of the Zenit news agency:
Recent Meeting Could Mark Turning Point

.On September 18, inside Castel Gandolfo, the Pope's summer palace about 30 miles outside Rome, a Russian Orthodox Archbishop named Hilarion Alfeyev (photo), 43 (a scholar, theologian, expert on the liturgy, composer and lover of music), met with Benedict XVI, 82 (also a scholar, theologian, expert on the liturgy and lover of music), for almost two hours, according to informed sources. (There are as yet no "official" sources about this meeting -- the Holy See has still not released an official communiqué.)

The silence suggests that what transpired was important -- perhaps so important that the Holy See thinks it isn't yet prudent to reveal publicly what was discussed.

But there are numerous "signs" that the meeting was remarkably harmonious...

In memory of the visit, Archbishop Hilarion gave the Pope a pectoral cross, made in workshops of Russian Orthodox Church...

It is especially significant, in this context, that Hilarion, Patriarch Kirill's "Foreign Minister," has some of the same deep interests as Benedict XVI: the liturgy, and music.

"As a 15-year-old boy I first entered the sanctuary of the Lord, the Holy of Holies of the Orthodox Church,” Hilarion once wrote about the Orthodox liturgy. “But it was only after my entrance into the altar that the 'theourgia,' the mystery, and 'feast of faith' began, which continues to this very day.

"After my ordination, I saw my destiny and main calling in serving the Divine Liturgy. Indeed, everything else, such as sermons, pastoral care and theological scholarship were centered around the main focal point of my life -- the liturgy."

These words seem to echo the feelings and experiences of Benedict XVI, who has written that the liturgies of Holy Saturday and Easter Sunday in Bavaria when he was a child were formative for his entire being, and that his writing on the liturgy (one of his books is entitled "Feast of Faith") is the most important to him of all his scholarly endeavors.

"Orthodox divine services are a priceless treasure that we must carefully guard," Hilarion has written. "I have had the opportunity to be present at both Protestant and Catholic services, which were, with rare exceptions, quite disappointing… Since the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council, services in some Catholic churches have become little different from Protestant ones."

Again, these words of Hilarion seem to echo Benedict XVI's own concerns. The Pope has made it clear that he wishes to reform the Catholic Church's liturgy, and preserve what was contained in the old liturgy and now risks being lost.

Hilarion has cited the Orthodox St. John of Kronstadt approvingly. St. John of Kronstadt wrote: "The Church and its divine services are an embodiment and realization of everything in Christianity... It is the divine wisdom, accessible to simple, loving hearts."

These words echo words written by Cardinal Ratzinger, now Benedict XVI, who often said that the liturgy is a "school" for the simple Christian, imparting the deep truths of the faith even to the unlearned through its prayers, gestures and hymns.

Hilarion in recent years has become known for his musical compositions, especially for Christmas and for Good Friday, celebrating the birth and the Passion of Jesus Christ. These works have been performed in Moscow and in the West, in Rome in March 2007 and in Washington DC in December 2007.

Closer relations between Rome and Moscow, then, could have profound implications also for the cultural and liturgical life of the Church in the West. There could be a renewal of Christian art and culture, as well as of faith...

(Here is a link to the complete article: http://www.zenit.org/article-26932?l=english.)



At a superficial level, there would seem to be no relation between Vatican efforts at fostering closer unity with the Eastern Orthodox, and the subject of the rest of the Inside the Vatican Newsflash Letter #29, i.e., the impending "Perfect Storm" regarding negotiations between the Vatican and the SSPX.

However, this would be an opportune moment to review a column published more than a year ahead of Summorum Pontificum:

June 29, 2006
Archbishop Burke, Bishop Rifan comment: Will classical liturgy aid reunion with Eastern Orthodox?

By Brian Mershon

"Similarly, it must not be forgotten that from the beginning the Churches of the East have had a treasury from which the Western Church has drawn extensively in liturgical practice, spiritual tradition, and law"
Unitatis Redintegratio, November 21, 1964.

Is it truly feasible that the "freeing of the classical Roman rite of liturgy" is a small part of the Pope's overall plan for paving the way for the reuniting of the Latin Church with the separated Churches of the East?

Bishop Fernando Rifan, who heads up the Apostolic Administration of St. John Mary Vianney in Campos, Brazil, said he believed a further liberalization of the liturgical rite of Pope St. Pius V would aid ecumenical relations with the East.

"I really think that the Traditional Latin Mass widely and freely available would be, among many other good reasons, a great benefit in the field of the true ecumenism with the Orthodox," he said. "This would be primarily because the Traditional Liturgy is much more similar to the Oriental [Eastern] rites in the aspect of the sacred, veneration, and beauty."

Bishop Rifan and his priestly society achieved full canonical recognition and regularization with the Church on January 18, 2002.

It is hoped by many traditionalists and the Holy See that the positive example of this group of priests, which offers all the sacraments exclusively according to the ancient rites, will serve as a model for other traditionalist priestly societies such as the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), to potentially reach full regularization with the Church.

Archbishop Raymond Burke, a notably obedient son of the Church, particularly with applying Pope John Paul II's request in Ecclesia Dei Adflicta to be "wide and generous" in allowing the Classical Roman liturgy for those Catholics who desire it, agrees with Bishop Rifan's assessment, but with a nuance.

"I wouldn't think that the Holy Father would be doing this simply as a strategy [for ecumenical relations with the Orthodox], but I do think it will be an effect of a restoration or in the 'reform of the reform' of the liturgy," Archbishop Burke said.

"It seems to me for the Eastern rites, and for those of the Orthodox Churches, the reform of the liturgy after the council and the concrete expression is so stripped of the transcendent, of the sacral elements, it is difficult for them to recognize its relationship with their Eucharistic Liturgies," he said.

Archbishop Burke agreed that the Eastern Churches would most likely identify more readily with the Classical Roman rite of liturgy, and its similarities with their own Divine Liturgies, than the Novus Ordo liturgy.

"It would be easier for them to see the unity, the oneness in the Eucharistic Sacrifice, by a rite of the Mass, just limiting ourselves now to talking about the Holy Mass, that it was richer in those dimensions — the elements of the transcendent — the symbols of the transcendent element of Christ — Christ in action in the Mass — the unbloody renewal of the Sacrifice of Calvary," Archbishop Burke said.

Not A Hopeful Indicator

Dr. Alcuin Reid, author of numerous scholarly books on the Sacred Liturgy and its history, is the recent author of Organic Development of the Liturgy, which contains glowing praise in its preface written by Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger. He affirmed that it was his opinion as a liturgical scholar, that the Novus Ordo liturgy, as practiced in the vast majority of Catholic churches, is not a hopeful indicator of eventual reunion with the East.

"I suspect that our current liturgical state does not exactly inspire confidence in them," Dr. Reid said. "The Holy Father is, no doubt, aware of this, and most probably hopes to give a sign that Rome wishes to set her liturgy in order once again, and that indeed Rome respects legitimate traditional liturgical rites."

Fr. Richard Jano is the pastor at Nativity Ukrainian Catholic Church in Springfield, Ore., an Eastern rite Catholic Church in full communion with the Holy See. As an Eastern rite priest, he has occasionally offered the Novus Ordo liturgy for area churches over the past 25 years, and he agrees with Dr. Reid's assessment.

"I think there would be some value in doing this [freeing the Classical Roman rite] as an indication of the respect the Church holds for liturgical worship that comes down to us from ancient times, and emphasizes the awe, reverence, and respectfully loving attitude that a Christian should carry into the Sacred Liturgy," he said.

"It would also illustrate the truth that the Church honors the genuine and authentic diversity of liturgies, not only in the Eastern Churches, both Catholic and Orthodox, but even within the Roman Church itself," Fr. Jano said.

...

Perhaps the better question is: "What is the common basis of doctrinal and moral issues for dialogue with increasingly more estranged, and increasingly less Christian sects with no valid priesthood?"

Pope Benedict XVI, able to tell "the tree by its fruits," clearly recognizes the advantage of having more than 500 priests in the SSPX in full communion. He also recognizes the accelerating number of priestly vocations produced in other traditionalist communities like the FSSP and the ICKSP. The current Pope's brand of "ecumenism" is one of Christian charity and justice, and perhaps recognizing "the signs of the times" called for so often in the documents of the Second Vatican Council and its aftermath by progressives.

He also understands that a united Church, East and West, may possibly be able to save Christianity in Europe and aid in re-establishing a more Christian worldview.

How does a gesture such as freeing the Classical Roman rite of liturgy fit into prospective ecumenical relations with the Orthodox, which was the primary group emphasized in the Second Vatican Council's Decree on Ecumenism, Unitatis Redintegratio?

If the Church has abandoned (or even given the appearance of abandoning in many quarters) its own liturgical patrimony and traditional devotional traditions, how can it hope to achieve any measurable ecumenical gains with the Churches of the East?

...

Cheevers said that Orthodox liturgists have always tended to cringe at the post-Vatican II liturgical reforms of the Latin Church. "Organic development in liturgy is permissible. Radical invention is not."

"The Pauline liturgy implicitly seems to move away from the clear expressions of faith about the sacramental nature of the Divine Liturgy commonly understood in the undivided church of the first millennium."

Cheevers said that a restoration of the Classical Roman rite, or so-called Tridentine rite, in the Catholic Church would probably be helpful to fostering ecumenism with the Orthodox. "It's something that Orthodox can look at and say 'we recognize this.'"

...

One of the recurring themes of Pope Benedict's writings on the recovery of the sacred in the liturgy is the positioning of the priest "toward the East" or "toward God." As an Eastern rite priest who offers all Divine Liturgies toward the East, leading his flock in worship to the heavenly Father, Fr. Jano voiced his impressions on his offering Mass "toward the people" when occasionally offering the Novus Ordo.

"On the few occasions when I have served the Mass in Roman Catholic parishes, I have been very surprised to discover how uncomfortable I am with praying to God while facing the congregation," he said. "Probably the most jarring example for me, to illustrate this point, is when I have seen Roman priests reading a prayer at Mass and gazing intently at the congregation while uttering the prayer. I've never understood this," Fr. Jano said.

"If you have something important to say to your Father, why would you stare at your brother when you're speaking to Him?"

Salutary Effects

Fr. Thomas Kocik of Somerset, Mass., and author of Ignatius Press' Reform of the Reform?, agreed that the reformed Novus Ordo liturgy is not an ecumenical breakthrough with the Orthodox.

"The Orthodox are justly disturbed not only by abuses in the post-Vatican II liturgy, but also by approved practices such as female altar servers, Mass 'facing the people' and Communion in the hand," he said. "Given the East's intense conservatism, I think the freeing of the Tridentine liturgy bodes well ecumenically, because these problematic practices are simply not standard features of the Classical Roman rite."

"The Orthodox may interpret this as evidence of a renewed seriousness in the Roman Church about the ancient maxim, 'lex orandi, lex credendi,' meaning that as we believe so we pray, and vice versa," he said. "Doctrine and worship influence each other."

...

© Brian Mershon


(A counterpoint to the thesis that Summorum Pontificum may have represented, at least in part, an ecumenical gesture towards the Eastern Orthodox can be found in an 11/14/2006 Vivificat blog post, The prospects of the Tridentine Mass in the light of the impending new indult.)

The developments in Vatican relations with both the SSPX and the Eastern Orthodox may best be understood neither through a "Hermeneutic of Continuity" nor a "Hermeneutic of Rupture," but through a Hermeneutic of Fatima:


If you were the pope, in the twilight of your career, a true son of VII, yet you could see the severe problems that have wracked the Church since VII, what would you do? If you had a deep seated fear that the Church would continue its moral decline if nothing is done, what would you do? If you truly believed the actions of the Vatican regarding Fatima were, at the time, honest and forthright, but now you had a real doubt that all was not as it seemed then, what would you do?

You would look at the most important aspects of the Message of Fatima that may not have been addressed, and you would systematically work to undo the damage.

1) Restore the TLM.

2) Propose a reconsideration and reinterpretation of VII.

3) Figure out a way to bring Russia back into the fold.

How?

1) Summorum Pontificum

2) Lift the SSPX excommunications, and task them with addressing the problems of VII. Put them directly in contact with the CDF. Let the tail (the SSPX) wag the dog (CDF.) Then let the CDF wag the Church.

3) Make real moves towards reuniting Eastern Orthodoxy, and use the Grace of that unity to fight the errors of post-Christian western decay.


This may be the interpretive key to truly understanding the "Marshall Plan" of Pope Benedict XVI.



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To: annalex; kosta50; MarkBsnr

“It’s the way of life, a culture.”

Alex, you of all people know Kosta is right! There is no need for the Latins to use the iconostasion, have beared priests or use prosphoron. The old High Mass was just fine. but Wiccan nuns and the NO liturgy just isn’t fine and we have no time or tolerance for them. They are not and cannot and never can be “Orthodox” or “orthodox” no matter what the theologians and hierarchs, yours and ours, say. We will indeed simply walk away from them. Love, Alex, is not the issue. As Kosta says, its Orthodoxy.


41 posted on 09/28/2009 7:16:00 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

But then your answer to the hypothetical

— the West returns to the dogmatic perimeter of 8c.
— the West returns to authentically Latin form of worship

would not have been the one you already gave in 29, would it?


42 posted on 09/28/2009 7:25:27 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr
Alex, if you have made up your mind that the Orthodox simply don't love the Latins, nothing I say will change your mind. It gives you a self-serving explanation and whatever self-fulfilling justification you are seeking.

It's not hate, as in μισέω, but rather a sense of alienation, something unnatural, forced. It's like going to the UK and recognizing it's the same language but the lifestyle, attitudes, and overall culture is not the same.

In fact, on a closer look, nothing is the same, which is bewildering because it seems that it should be! The language is mostly the same, but has a strange accent; the words sound the same but means something different or are spelled differently; the Church "looks" Catholic but isn't; the head of the Church is also the head of state, who is also a monarch, and who reigns but doesn't govern; someone equivalent to the Speaker of the House runs the government and is called the Prime Minister; there are dozens of political parties instead of two; there is no written Constitution; 40%of the population is either agnostic or atheist, etc.

Do you really think Americans and the English could reunite based on the fact that once they were one and the same nation, that they use the same written language, that they both teach the same pirnciples, or that they share so many other things in common? The English are not Americans, because one cannot reduce our differences to one or two elements.

We could erase history, annul the American Revolution; even agree to a Constitutional Monarchy (without a Constitution!), we could change our names to "fifty colonies," and change our flag to the Union Jack—none of that would makes us English! It would be a faux union.

Likewise, we can scrap out anathemas (they were dropped in 1964, after 910 years), we can shred our doctrinal statements; we can all call ourselves Catholic once again, but by such superficial measures neither will the Latins become Orthodox nor will that name change make the Orthodox Catholics.

Such a (re)union would be a lie, Alex. That's all. It has nothing to do with any lack of love.

43 posted on 09/28/2009 10:54:17 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: annalex

“But then your answer to the hypothetical

— the West returns to the dogmatic perimeter of 8c.
— the West returns to authentically Latin form of worship

would not have been the one you already gave in 29, would it?”

As far as I can see my answer remains the same. Perhaps I am missing something or you are seeing something which isn’t there.


44 posted on 09/29/2009 3:14:25 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr
It's not hate, as in μισέω, but rather a sense of alienation, something unnatural, forced.

Yes. I never said the Orthodox hate the Catholics. For the second time, you express my understading of the Orthodox feelings on the matter better than I could on this thread. The sense of alienation is a lack of love.

Consider two people courting each other. They may have a fear of premature physical union, -- because they are tempted to it. They also may have a fear of a mistake: perhaps the infatuation is blinding me to some cardinal flaw! -- one thinks. But they want to be together: they never feel alienated.

The analogy of two kindred yet separate nations is a good example, but there is one difference: nations exist to serve themselves, whereas Churches exist to serve one God. Do you think a Catholic never feels in a foreign place in Orthodox Liturgy? I can assure you he does; he wouldn't want the busy beauty of it, he would miss the austerity and the silence of the Mass. Likewise, a man in love does not want to become his female bride, nor does the bride want to become her male groom. She would not want the male form; he would not want the female form. But they want to be one; not same, but one.

Some higher purpose yet may bring the United States and Britain under one government. It would not mean the British should cease to be British and the Americans should cease to be Americans.

It is exactly what I say it is, unlove, and because of it you (I speak collectively) do not understand the subject matter.

45 posted on 09/29/2009 7:40:37 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr
The sense of alienation is a lack of love

No, alienation simply means just what it means—something one cannot identify with, something one does not recognize as his/her own.

The analogy of two kindred yet separate nations is a good example, but there is one difference: nations exist to serve themselves, whereas Churches exist to serve one God

Churches claim they serve God whether they are in communion or not. Besides, what does that mean "to serve God?"

You have decided that it's all the Orthodox fault. But I will tell you something, you can't make someone love you. And by the same token just because someone loves you doesn't mean you are obligated to love them.

You have managed to turn the Orthodox attitude towards the West as something materialistic and faddish and ocunter-traditional into a damnable lack of love for the West, so as to paint the East as some loveless villain whose fault it is that we can't hold hands.

Your twisted mind only confirms Orthodox suspicions and doubts. It's like some stalker who sees himself as a "victim" because the person he is infatuated with is refusing his advances.

46 posted on 09/29/2009 8:50:39 AM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50
Your twisted mind

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

47 posted on 09/29/2009 9:17:17 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator; annalex
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal." Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

My apologies. Wrong choice of words on my part. Alex I don't think your mind is twisted. Please forgive me for slipping. Your conclusions left me baffled.

48 posted on 09/29/2009 12:18:13 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50

Don’t worry about it.

I’ll have a substantive response later — busy at work these days. In a hurry: of course the lack of union is also, and perhaps in greater part, a Catholic fault.


49 posted on 09/29/2009 1:02:02 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: kosta50; annalex

***You have decided that it’s all the Orthodox fault. But I will tell you something, you can’t make someone love you. And by the same token just because someone loves you doesn’t mean you are obligated to love them.***

A step back and another look at what we are instructed to do with our friends and enemies might be worth while.

Matthew 5:
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17 But I say to you, whoever is angry 18 with his brother will be liable to judgment, and whoever says to his brother, ‘Raqa,’ will be answerable to the Sanhedrin, and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ will be liable to fiery Gehenna.
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Therefore, if you bring your gift to the altar, and there recall that your brother has anything against you,
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leave your gift there at the altar, go first and be reconciled with your brother, and then come and offer your gift.

If we cannot be reconciled with our dearest of brethren, flesh of our spiritual flesh, then how do we handle the heathen, heretic, and apostate:
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27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
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But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you,
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that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust.
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For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors 28 do the same?
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And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? 29
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So be perfect, 30 just as your heavenly Father is perfect.

If we cannot handle minor differences which whet our pride and our haughtiness, then the harpies of Podarge will descend upon us here on FR and we will deserve it.


50 posted on 09/29/2009 6:19:57 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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