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The Surest Sign of a Decadent Culture
InsideCatholic.com ^ | 6/09/10 | Deal W. Hudson

Posted on 06/09/2010 9:04:57 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

The Surest Sign of a Decadent Culture

by Deal W. Hudson   
6/09/10

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LifeSiteNews has just published a story containing, to my mind, the surest sign of a decadent culture. 

The chair of the Department of Philosophy at the University of Cape Town, David Benatar, has pubished a book, "Better To Never Have Been: The Harm of Coming Into Existence." 

The basic argument is this:  Human existence necessarily contains suffering, therefore it is better not to exist.

My response to Benatar is as follows:  Since when did they let college freshmen become tenured professors of philosophy, much less chair an entire department?

But, there is more. Our favorite Princeton professor -- just kidding! -- Peter Singer agrees with Benatar.  

“To bring into existence someone who will suffer is, Benatar argues, to harm that person, but to bring into existence someone who will have a good life is not to benefit him or her,” explains Singer. 

Have you ever read a statement more contrary to reason this this?  I don't think I can recall one.  

To begin from the premise that the experience of suffering, which is an incredibly broad and complex concept, by the way, negates the desirability of human existence is not even nihilism, it's just plain stupid.  

Benatar and Singer are basically saying, "If we do not exist as God exists then it is better to not exist at all."

In other words, a life without suffering, which would include death, is the only desirable life.  

Enough said.

PS. Let's hope none of Benatar's or Singer's fans are found dead any time soon.



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Tuesday June 8, 2010



Princeton Philosopher: ‘Why Not Sterilize the Human Race and Party into Extinction?’


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By Peter J. Smith

NEW YORK, June 8, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Princeton philosopher Peter Singer one of the world’s foremost contemporary utilitarian philosophers infamous for his advocacy of infanticide, would like individuals to consider this question: would sterilizing the human race to spare future generations the pain of existence be a good idea?

In a blog post for the New York Times entitled “Should this be the last generation?” Singer discusses in glowing terms the thought of South African philosopher David Benatar. Singer calls Benator the “author of a fine book with an arresting title: ‘Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence.’”

“To bring into existence someone who will suffer is, Benatar argues, to harm that person, but to bring into existence someone who will have a good life is not to benefit him or her,” explains Singer.

Both Singer and Benatar both believe that human beings do not have inherent dignity. Singer, the Princeton Chair of Bioethics, has gained notoriety for asserting that infanticide is justifiable, especially for disabled infants, because they lack self-awareness, which he asserts is a requirement for personhood.

A key difference, however, between Singer and Benatar, an existential nihilist who chairs the Department of Philosophy at the University of Cape Town in South Africa, is that Singer believes life could be worth living in certain conditions. But Benatar flat out rejects existence as good, and the still-living author discusses that view in his controversial book.

Singer explains Benatar’s antinatalist philosophy, which bases its moral framework by weighing the consequences of existence, in this way: “everyone will suffer to some extent, and if our species continues to reproduce, we can be sure that some future children will suffer severely. Hence continued reproduction will harm some children severely, and benefit none.”

Singer then invites readers to engage in a thought experiment: “So why don’t we make ourselves the last generation on earth? If we would all agree to have ourselves sterilized then no sacrifices would be required — we could party our way into extinction!”

“Even if we take a less pessimistic view of human existence than Benatar, we could still defend [this scenario], because it makes us better off — for one thing, we can get rid of all that guilt about what we are doing to future generations — and it doesn’t make anyone worse off, because there won’t be anyone else to be worse off,” he continued.

Singer distances himself from Benatar’s conclusions, however, and says, “I do think it would be wrong to choose the non-sentient universe.” Nevertheless, he said that for the human race to continue justifying reproducing itself over the next two centuries, individuals should ask themselves the hard questions of, “Is life worth living? Are the interests of a future child a reason for bringing that child into existence? And is the continuance of our species justifiable in the face of our knowledge that it will certainly bring suffering to innocent future human beings?”

Bioethicist Wesley J. Smith, a longtime critic of Singer’s work, responded to Singer’s recent article, saying, “This is nihilism on stilts and it is polluting the West’s self confidence and belief in universal human equality like the BP oil well is polluting the Caribbean.

“Only the resulting mess isn’t measured in polluted beaches and dead birds, but existential despair that destroys human lives.”

“Under the influence of anti-human advocates like Peter Singer, we have gone in the West from seeking to ‘secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity,’ to seriously questioning whether there should be any posterity at all,” Smith wrote on his blog. “This is not healthy. But it is the natural consequence of rejecting human exceptionalism.”

1 posted on 06/09/2010 9:04:57 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

They should be first in line


2 posted on 06/09/2010 9:07:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

If this confused, academic knucklehead believed his own obfuscating, illogical bull$hit, he would already have committed suicide.


3 posted on 06/09/2010 9:11:24 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

4 posted on 06/09/2010 9:11:52 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

better not to exist? only the devil and his disciples would come up with that one.


5 posted on 06/09/2010 9:14:16 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

“If we do not exist as God exists then it is better to not exist at all.”

isn’t that why the Devil got kicked out of heaven?vanity?


6 posted on 06/09/2010 9:15:35 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Wow. And here I thoughte the sign of a decadent culture was the snooze alarm...

These people have no business in philosophy, polluting human minds.

7 posted on 06/09/2010 9:17:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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He’s mentally ill.

And some people pay to be taught by him.


8 posted on 06/09/2010 9:17:09 PM PDT by ByDesign
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To: GeronL
Dear Mr. Sanger:


9 posted on 06/09/2010 9:32:15 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

bump!!


10 posted on 06/09/2010 9:34:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: EyeGuy

Tell us how you really feel! LOL!


11 posted on 06/09/2010 9:41:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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