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DANIEL's 69 PROPHETIC WEEKS
WORDPRESS.COM ^ | December 5, 2010 | Pmary65

Posted on 12/12/2010 9:45:28 PM PST by Pmary65

Daniel’s 69 Prophetic Weeks – Chapter 9 (KJV)

23. At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

24. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

* Daniel’s vision has been interpreted with various methods of calculation from the time in the second rebuilding of the temple by Nehemiah in 445 B.C. to a later tangible crucifixion year in the ‘cutting off ‘ of the Messiah. Hence, an interpretation by Jewish reckoning counts 7+62 = 69 Sabbatical ‘week year periods’ every 7 years as shown in the chart below being derived from Benedict Zuckermann’s works;

‘A Treatise on the Sabbatical Cycle and the Jubilee’: A Contribution to the Archaeology and Chronology of the Time Anterior and Subsequent to the Captivity (trans. A. Lowy; London: Chronological Institute, 1866; repr. New York: Sepher Hermon Press, 1974).

445/444 B.C. ‘Temple Rebuilding’

444/443 B.C. 1st Sabbatical Year

437/436 B.C. 2nd Sabbatical Year

430/429 B.C. 3rd Sabbatical Year

423/422 B.C. 4th Sabbatical Year

416/415 B.C. 5th Sabbatical Year

409/408 B.C. 6th Sabbatical Year

402/401 B.C. 7th Sabbatical Year

395/394 B.C. 8th Sabbatical Year

388/387 B.C. 9th Sabbatical Year

381/380 BC 10th Sabbatical Year

374/373 BC 11th Sabbatical Year

367/366 BC 12th Sabbatical Year

360/359 BC 13th Sabbatical Year

353/352 BC 14th Sabbatical Year

346/345 BC 15th Sabbatical Year

339/338 BC 16th Sabbatical Year

332/331 BC 17th Sabbatical Year

325/324 BC 18th Sabbatical Year

318/317 BC 19th Sabbatical Year

311/310 BC 20th Sabbatical Year

304/303 BC 21st Sabbatical Year

297/296 BC 22nd Sabbatical Year

290/289 BC 23rd Sabbatical Year

283/282 BC 24th Sabbatical Year

276/275 BC 25th Sabbatical Year

269/268 BC 26th Sabbatical Year

262/261 BC 27th Sabbatical Year

255/254 BC 28th Sabbatical Year

248/247 BC 29th Sabbatical Year

241/240 BC 30th Sabbatical Year

234/233 BC 31st Sabbatical Year

227/226 BC 32nd Sabbatical Year

220/219 BC 33rd Sabbatical Year

213/212 BC 34th Sabbatical Year

206/205 BC 35th Sabbatical Year

199/198 BC 36th Sabbatical Year

192/191 BC 37th Sabbatical Year

185/184 BC 38th Sabbatical Year

178/177 BC 39th Sabbatical Year

171/170 BC 40th Sabbatical Year

164/163 BC 41st Sabbatical Year

157/156 BC 42nd Sabbatical Year

150/149 BC 43rd Sabbatical Year

143/142 BC 44th Sabbatical Year

136/135 BC 45th Sabbatical Year

129/128 BC 46th Sabbatical Year

122/121 BC 47th Sabbatical Year

115/114 BC 48th Sabbatical Year

108/107 BC 49th Sabbatical Year

101/100 BC 50th Sabbatical Year

– 94/93 BC. 51st Sabbatical Year

– 87/86 BC. 52nd Sabbatical Year

– 80/79 BC. 53rd Sabbatical Year

– 73/72 BC. 54th Sabbatical Year

– 66/65 BC. 55th Sabbatical Year

– 59/58 BC. 56th Sabbatical Year

– 52/51 BC. 57th Sabbatical Year

– 45/44 BC. 58th Sabbatical Year

– 38/37 BC. 59th Sabbatical Year

– 31/30 BC. 60th Sabbatical Year

– 24/23 BC. 61st Sabbatical Year

– 17/16 BC. 62nd Sabbatical Year

– 10/9 B.C.. 63rd Sabbatical Year

– 3/2 B.C…. 64th Sabbatical Year

+ 5/6 A.D…. 65th Sabbatical Year

+ 12/13 AD. 66th Sabbatical Year

+ 19/20 AD. 67th Sabbatical Year

+ 26/27 AD. 68th Sabbatical Year

+ 33/34 AD. 69th Sabbatical Year ‘Messiah is cut off’

* Sabbatical years were referred to as release periods where debts were forgiven, and the fields lay fallow to replenish the earth. Here the Jewish Sabbatical years are displayed from the autumn/Tishri to Tishri/autumn season overlapping the adjoining Civil calendar years. Thus, the passion event of the Messiah Jesus occurred on the 69th sabbatical year ‘after’ the order for the second rebuilding of the temple by Nehemiah in 445 B.C. at the time of king Artaxerxes 1 Longimanus. Thus, the resurrection day, the day of Pentecost, and the year of passion were all revealed significantly being emphasized through God as the redeemed ‘Lord of the Sabbath’.

For further applicable references read; SABBATICAL YEARS, JUBILEES, AND PRIESTLY COURSES (Sec. 224) in the ‘Handbook of Biblical Chronology’ by Jack Finegan (Revised Edition C. 1998 Hendrickson Publishers, Inc. ISBN 1-56563-143-9.

http://books.google.ca/books?ei=8ZUFTbaoEoujnweA7LnlDQ&ct=result&id=bHYUAQAAIAAJ&dq=Handbook+of+Biblical+Chronology&q=release

Best Regards – Pmary65

For a complete comprehensive review backing this subject feel free to visit;

http://www.pmary65.wordpress.com


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ecumenism; Theology
KEYWORDS: daniel; prophesy
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1 posted on 12/12/2010 9:45:32 PM PST by Pmary65
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To: Pmary65

pfl


2 posted on 12/12/2010 9:54:35 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Pmary65

This is so inaccurate on so many levels.........egads.


3 posted on 12/12/2010 10:40:51 PM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: papabrody
This is so inaccurate on so many levels.........egads.

At least it includes key verse 23, which is usually "cut off" in these interpretive schemes.

4 posted on 12/12/2010 10:48:14 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Pmary65; skr; papabrody; Ezekiel

Another perspective on which uses:

1) the Masoretic break after verse 25
2) 365 day solar years
3) Cyrus as one of the anoint-eds

http://www.biblicalstudies.com/bstudy/eschatology/daniel.htm

Isaac Newton has an interpretation also.


5 posted on 12/12/2010 11:40:15 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: Pmary65; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

THANKS.

PING TO END TIMES LIST FYI


6 posted on 12/13/2010 12:23:55 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ROTB
"Isaac Newton has an interpretation also."

So did Jonathan Edwards. The end times date setters and headline chasers are so entertaining. They are the comics section of the theological newspaper.

7 posted on 12/13/2010 3:43:23 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Quix

Glory to God.


8 posted on 12/13/2010 4:26:01 AM PST by Joya
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To: All

I’m probable blind but where is anybody setting a time on the Lords return in this topic?


9 posted on 12/13/2010 4:59:55 AM PST by Doofer
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To: Pmary65

bump for index


10 posted on 12/13/2010 5:37:29 AM PST by davidosborne (I am SpartanSixDelta)
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To: Pmary65; topcat54
Daniel’s vision has been interpreted with various methods of calculation from the time in the second rebuilding of the temple by Nehemiah in 445 B.C. to a later tangible crucifixion year in the ‘cutting off ‘ of the Messiah.

OK, I've got a good idea where this is coming from. Likely, bog standard dispensationalism. If that's not where you're going, well, please excuse me.

If you pick just the right starting point, and do the math juuuust right, you land at Jesus' triumphal entry into Jerusalem in 33 AD. It's complicated and fragile, and, according to a Jewish commenter in a previous thread where this came up (maybe Topcat54 will have that bookmarked) makes incorrect assumptions about how the ancient Jewish year went.

And, it completely fails to take into account what's happening in the first half of Daniel 9.

http://www.pmary65.wordpress.com

Blog flogging.

11 posted on 12/13/2010 6:06:01 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Lee N. Field
And, it completely fails to take into account what's happening in the first half of Daniel 9.

Please explain in detail what you mean ...

12 posted on 12/13/2010 7:01:07 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


13 posted on 12/13/2010 7:06:42 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: dartuser
Read MGK's Covenant of the 70th Week.
14 posted on 12/13/2010 7:24:53 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Quix

Would you please put me on that list?


15 posted on 12/13/2010 8:11:38 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

DONE.

Now to save it over several drives. LOL.


16 posted on 12/13/2010 8:24:33 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ROTB

That page is one of the best, if not the best, explanation and breakdown I have ever read. Thank you for posting that.


17 posted on 12/13/2010 8:51:45 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Lee N. Field
The article did have some very good background information in it ... was a nice summary of the ties to the Mosaic covenant. However, I see a major leap of faith between the body of the paper and the conclusions drawn.

The authors assumption that the temple was the focal point of Daniels prayer is patently incorrect. Daniel doesnt even remotely refer to the temple. Its fairly apparent (upon reading the rest of the article) that the authors main purpose for assuming this is so that she (or maybe he, Im not sure) can eventually make the connection to the destruction in 70 AD.

Second, it seems silly that the author would claim literal fulfilment of the first 69 weeks, in so many words, ... then abondon that approach and accept a spiritual fulfillment for the rest of the prophecy. This is where the position breaks down into speculation. The contortions that must be undertaken to stretch out the required time frame for the 70th week to absorb the events of 70 AD are just too extreme.

Then exercising His royal heavenly rule over all the nations, Messiah in the midst of the seventieth week would send forces of destruction against the Jerusalem temple

appears that the last half of the seventieth week is the age of the community of the new covenant,

the last half week is the age of the church in the wilderness of the nations for a time, and times, and half a time

Come on ...

Finally, and surely the most severe problem; the author never once mentions the kingdom.

How is that even possible?

After major prophecies of world kingdoms there is not even a mention. The entire book of Daniel is set in the context of kingdoms. A lost kingdom, current world kingdom, the hope of a restored kingdom, and prophecies of future kingdoms.

What exactly does this author think is going to be restored after the exile? The Mosaic covenant? Please ... that motif is too restrictive given the entire historical context of Daniel. Daniel and every other Jew in exile was expecting a KINGDOM to be restored after the exile. The disciples in Acts 1 were STILL expecting the restoration of the kingdom. This supports the notion that Gabriels instruction WAS a clarification of the restoration prophecies, something the author dispenses with out-of-hand.

Again, some good historical information ... but the conclusions fail to answer some fundamental questions of the text ... and the context.

18 posted on 12/13/2010 11:51:40 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: circlecity
What's even more entertaining are the sad delusional saps who have convinced themselves that the approximately 25% of Scripture which is prophetic is meaningless, even in the face of historical fulfillment of many of those prophecies and the ongoing fulfillment of the prophecies concerning the return of Christ.

And downright knee-slapping is the fervent belief held by many of the Scripture-deniers that all the prophecies that do concern the return of Christ happened in 70AD. That would include, mind you, the total blind, mindless acceptance of the impossibility that the technology existed in 70AD for every single person on the face of the earth to be numbered and for one man to be able to know who on the earth is numbered and who is not.

So I'd have to give the Emmy for best comedy to those who can deny the Bible and live in the alternative reality of allegorization of God's word and preterism and Scripture re-writes that erase entire books of the Bible and have every confidence that what they do and believe is just fine with God.

Not only is it hilarious, it's pathetic.

19 posted on 12/13/2010 2:12:32 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I’m no preterist. Thus, you powers of observation are as weak as your exegesis. But don’t worry, there will be a new headline to chase and fit into your fantasies any minute now.


20 posted on 12/13/2010 2:59:47 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
What if the headline matches up with Biblical prophecy?

Is it still a fantasy then?

21 posted on 12/13/2010 3:04:50 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

All headlines match up with Biblical prophecy. And always have. Which is why there are always suckers lining up to buy the newest end time books.


22 posted on 12/13/2010 3:13:26 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
All headlines match up with Biblical prophecy. And always have.

LOL!!

"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” (II Peter 3:3-4)

No, I'm afraid that the headlines have not always matched up with Bible prophecy.

23 posted on 12/13/2010 3:18:23 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Scoffing at dispensational (or preterist for that matter) delusions is not denying Christ will return. Everybody got the details (and interpretation of the prophecies) wrong the first time around and it will be the same the second time. Now go buy your new Hal lindsay book - it’ll be in the fiction section.


24 posted on 12/13/2010 3:37:23 PM PST by circlecity
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
"No, I'm afraid that the headlines have not always matched up with Bible prophecy."

Maybe not. Like for example only a total wack job would try to fit the latest food regulation headlines into bible prophecy. Right? Bwhahahahaha.

25 posted on 12/13/2010 3:41:44 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity
So give me some of the "delusions".

This should be interesting.

26 posted on 12/13/2010 3:43:23 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: circlecity

Since you are not a dispensationalist, how about premillennialist? Are you Premill? Postmill? Amill?

Also, you said you are not a preterist, does that mean you are Historicist? Futurist?


27 posted on 12/13/2010 4:01:19 PM PST by sasportas
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To: circlecity
Bwhahahahahaha!!

But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. (2 Corinthians 2:14

“Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand. (Daniel 12:10

Understanding Scripture and having the discernment to see the signs that Jesus Christ commanded His people to look for as evidence of His soon return requires that a person know Jesus as his Savior and have a personal relationship with Him.

When a person is blind to not only the Scripture that gives us the signs to look for but also to the fact that these prophecies are being fulfilled on a daily basis, that person has no spiritual discernment because he does not know the God Who gives spiritual discernment.

That person has a lot more to worry about that whether or not someone is a dispensationalist. Much, much bigger problems. Eternal destiny problems.

28 posted on 12/13/2010 4:19:28 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: papabrody; Pmary65

Hey PB, I agree with you. Their starting date is off, and there are two different annointed ones or messiahs, One is Cyrus and the other is a corrupt messiah who is cut-off. Righteous people are never cut-off.


29 posted on 12/13/2010 5:52:30 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

INDEED.


30 posted on 12/13/2010 9:51:59 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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31 posted on 12/13/2010 9:54:37 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: papabrody
"This is so inaccurate on so many levels"

You are in above your pay grade.....WHY?.......Because you dangle the prospect that you know something but stop short of explaining what you believe to be true.

In fact, why did you even stop on this thread to make a comment? You are not a believer so go your way and let individuals who believe, be free to discuss their faith. Why do you feel obligated to criticize?

32 posted on 12/14/2010 11:43:51 AM PST by FW190
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To: Ezekiel
This coming Pesach is a ‘middle of a week’!

http://www.hebcal.com/hebcal/

33 posted on 12/14/2010 12:10:52 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (What would Joe Strummer say?)
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To: CynicalBear

You are welcome:

The explanation of Daniel 9:24-29 with the 360 day years and without the Masoretic break between verses 25 and 26 is best done at:

http://xwalk.ca/y3nf.html

Enjoy!

- ROTB


34 posted on 12/14/2010 4:09:13 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: FW190

I’m sorry sir, but I cannot find your contribution to this thread either.


35 posted on 12/14/2010 5:20:00 PM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: blasater1960
Hey PB, I agree with you

Thank you. I used the same method as described in this article (just taking a date and backing into it) and guess what? I'm the moshiach!

B'H

36 posted on 12/14/2010 5:24:38 PM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: Lee N. Field; GiovannaNicoletta; papabrody; Quix; FW190; Ezekiel; ROTB; circlecity; Joya; Doofer; ..
II Timothy 3:16 (all quotes/KJV)

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Daniel 9:25, 26

Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall the Messiah be cut off…

* Many biblical SCHOLARS interpret ‘the Messiah the Prince’ from these verses as the One and only true Messiah being Jesus the son of the living Father. Thus being said, the ‘cut off’ point would pertain to a crucifixion year where the set scriptural conditions must have applied. For example;

John 11:9

Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours [light] in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

Matthew 12:39, 40

But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be 'three days and three nights' in the heart of the earth.

Mark 8:31

And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and 'after three days' rise again.

Matthew 27:63

Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, 'After three days' I will rise again.

Acts 1:5 (on the day of ascension)

For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost (the day of Pentecost) 'not many days' hence.

Best Regards – Pmary65

37 posted on 12/15/2010 12:01:59 AM PST by Pmary65 (http://pmary65.wordpress.com/)
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To: Lee N. Field

I searched out your ‘User’ name to see that you use the word ‘dispensationalism’ quite frequently in your responses to other threads. That’s okay - I won’t take it personally!

Best Regards - Pmary65


38 posted on 12/15/2010 12:27:56 AM PST by Pmary65 (http://pmary65.wordpress.com/)
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To: Pmary65

I find them stubbornly bent on getting the gospel wrong.


39 posted on 12/15/2010 6:00:07 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Lee N. Field

Unmitigated nonsense.


40 posted on 12/15/2010 8:15:47 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

By the way, that was one cute video!!

Best Regards - Pmary65


41 posted on 12/15/2010 10:40:31 AM PST by Pmary65 (http://pmary65.wordpress.com/)
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To: papabrody
"I’m sorry sir, but I cannot find your contribution to this thread either."

I contribute by exposing your hypocrisy but you've done a far better job than I could ever do.

42 posted on 12/15/2010 11:40:56 AM PST by FW190
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To: Quix
Unmidgitated nonsense.

Ahh, the familiar warm glow.

43 posted on 12/15/2010 2:09:34 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Pmary65

Thank you so much for those beautiful Scriptures, dear Pmary65!


44 posted on 12/15/2010 9:54:31 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix; All

lol - One sardonical flick.


45 posted on 12/16/2010 10:22:04 AM PST by Pmary65 (http://pmary65.wordpress.com/)
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To: Ezekiel; papabrody; Pmary65; dartuser; GiovannaNicoletta
Yeshua dates…

Reverse engineer it!

Conception: 25 Kislev 3756
Birth: 15 Tishri 3757
Crucifixion: 15 Nisan 3790 (30 C.E.)

See…

Why Didn't The Red Ribbon on the Head of the Scapegoat Turn White in 30 C.E.?

Question:

I was wondering about a story that a "Hebrew-Christian" told me recently. He said that there was a scarlet cloth which would turn white every year when the high priest atoned for the sins of the people. When Jesus died, around 30 A.D., the cloth would no longer turn white when the priest atoned for sins because Jesus was the final atonement. I've read this story in other sources, and I wondered what you have to say about it.

Answer:

This assertion with which you were confronted has, in the last decade, attracted wide interest in the evangelical world. In fact, I am somewhat surprised that it has taken this long for one of our website visitors to write in with this question.

In spite of the popularity this issue has gained in the Christian world in recent years, this contention stands out as one of the most bizarre arguments used by those who seek to convert the Jewish people to Christianity. What makes this line of reasoning so odd is that it seeks to use the Talmud to prove that Jesus is the messiah. While many readers of our website would simply be surprised to learn that missionaries would point to the Talmud to prove the validity of the Christian religion, in reality, this misuse of rabbinic literature is widespread…

…The Rabbis taught that forty years prior to the destruction of the Temple the lot did not come up in the [high priest's] right hand nor did the tongue of scarlet wool become white . . .

Citing the above statement, missionaries contend that the year the scarlet ribbon ceased to turn white coincides with the time that Jesus was crucified. They go on to insist that 40 years prior to the destruction of the second Temple corresponds to the year 30 C.E. which is approximately the time of Jesus' crucifixion. They conclude, therefore, that the cessation of the whitening of the scarlet ribbon clearly indicates that God was no longer accepting animal sacrifices, and the Jewish people, therefore, needed to turn to Jesus as their only avenue for atonement. Ultimately, this argument asserts that reason the scarlet strip of wool did not turn white in the year 30 C.E. was due to the fact that the sins of the Jews were not forgiven because they did not accept Jesus as their messiah.

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/Yomkippur.html

3790 is the middle of a ‘week’ as related in Daniel 9:26 …In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

The seven sevens are referring to shmita cycles as set down in Leviticus 25 1 The LORD said to Moses at Mount Sinai, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you, the land itself must observe a sabbath to the LORD. 3 For six years sow your fields, and for six years prune your vineyards and gather their crops. 4 But in the seventh year the land is to have a year of sabbath rest, a sabbath to the LORD. Do not sow your fields or prune your vineyards. 5 Do not reap what grows of itself or harvest the grapes of your untended vines. The land is to have a year of rest.

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3787 is a shmita year, beginning at Rosh Hashana, count 3 and a half, (or time, times and half a time) and you arrive at Pesach 3790. ‘In the middle of the week he will put an end to the sacrifice’ or ‘It is finished!’

How is the shmita year determined you ask? Simply divide by 7, or

541 x 7 = 3787

Now it gets real fun when you find that the next Pesach is also the middle of a week…

This Hebrew year is 5771
824 x 7 = 5768, from Rosh Hashana to Pesach 5771 is 3 and a half, or a time, times and half a time!

Or you could go to your Main library and look up Jesus in the Encyclopedia Judaica, Jesus, Died 30 C.E.

Whee! Times up! And don’t forget 3790 (30 C.E.) is the middle of a week! Later…

46 posted on 12/16/2010 3:13:25 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (What would Joe Strummer say?)
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To: CynicalBear; The Comedian; ex-Texan; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; ...
Some gleanings . . .

U.S. Rethinks Strategy for the Unthinkable

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641289/pg1

orig NYT SOURCE:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/science/16terror.html?_r=3&scp=1&sq=william%20s.%20broad%20nuclear%20fallout%20shelters&st=cse

ESSENTIALLY--TO STAY PUT AFTER ATOMIC ATTACK IN ANY STABLE BUILDING until wonderful leaders say it's safe to come out.

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UFO’s and ‘Explosions’ Recorded Near Japan’s Sakurakima Volcano. , page 1

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641395/pg1

Over at Youtube videos of UFO’s, unidentified flying objects, and what seems to be unidentified ‘explosions’ near Japan’s Sakurajima Volcano. The video footage recently recorded by several weather cams. What’s worth noting, the ‘explosions’, at times, are seen behind the mountain to the right of the volcano.

This is some real crazy footage! Great capture btw....No way are they stars, to much activity. and the explosions...wow...just wow..

The minute 11:38 is one of the best flashes I have got, but there are many other, 11:59, 12:19, 12:48, 12:49, and so on. There are some faint and repeated, intermittent flashes too on the right side of the screen, by and behind the last peak or the last summit of this volcano. This video is splendid. Here we are some speechless proofs about UFO's existence

Orig youtube video source:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPZyr5Llk-I

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641249/pg1

posted below by

NWONoWorldOrder:

posted on 16/12/2010 @ 07:10 this post a friend sent me this little story, and i thought it apt as it completely sums up our governments and how they are running our countries and handling the DEBT situation and here it is enjoy.....

Debt It's a slow day in a little northern town called Maghull. There's a chill in the air, and the streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit..............

On this particular day a well to do type o' guy is driving through town. He stops at a local hotel and lays a £50 note on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms as he wants to spend a night in the town..

As soon as the man walks upstairs, the hotel owner grabs the £50 and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

The butcher takes the £50 and runs down the street to settle his debt to the farmer.

The farmer takes the £50 and heads off to pay his bill at the supplier of his animal feed.

The guy at the Farmer's Co-op seizes the £50 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit.

She in turn dashes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner.

The hotel proprietor then places the £50 note back on the counter to await the return of the well to do guy.

A few minutes later the guy returned to the desk, says the rooms are not satisfactory, pockets the £50 and leaves town.

No one produced anything. No one earned anything.

However, everyone concerned is now out of debt and now looks to the future with great optimism.

And that, dear readers, is how the United Kingdom's Government is conducting business today!

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Can riot police really stop a full uprising?, page 1

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread640775/pg1

POSTED BY SHEEPSLAYER247:

posted on 14/12/2010 @ 20:13 this post After watching the numerous videos of riots occurring in Europe, and even here in America, I noticed that the riot police really have no control. It is not the riot police that contain the people from overtaking the key areas they are protecting. It is the fear of the people that stop the situation from escalating to a point where out of control violence occurs.

The last riots in the UK over tuition costs made me question how and why the police maintain power over the mass amounts of people! The people outnumber the police by outrageous numbers.

If the people of the world decided to rise up and take back the control of their governments/lives, could the police really do anything about it? Is our worst enemy not the riot police, but the will and actions of the people who are not willing to take that final, crucial step of overtaking those who stand in their way?

My opinion is NO! A true, full uprising of the people would be unstoppable. We are inhibited by our fears and our desire to get along with our neighbors, but are not willing to take action against those who oppress us. When the full-uprising does occur, it will be a site to see. Our government's and police have no chance. Their only option would be to listen to us, or the hammer would fall harder than any riot we have seen in history!

But would the people be willing to rise to that occasion? Unfortunately, I think not.

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UFO SHOT DOWN OVER ISRAELI NUKE PLANT:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641341/pg1

CNN LINK:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/12/16/israel.negev.shootdown/index.html?hpt=T2

Jerusalem (CNN) -- The Israeli Air Force shot down an unidentified flying object over the Dimona nuclear plant in the Negev Desert Thursday, the Israel Defense Forces said.

The object appeared in a designated no-fly zone, the air force was scrambled and the object was shot down, the IDF said.

The object could have been a party balloon, the IDF said, but forces have not yet found the debris to determine what it was.

. . .

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THE SECRET EVIDENCE--WE ARE NOT ALONE--FULL VERSION:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641214/pg1

POSTED BY MYTHKILLER:

posted on 16/12/2010 @ 05:11 this post This is a very interesting documentary, with a wealth of hard to deny material.

MJ-12 refers to an elite TOP SECRET military group called into action by United States presidential order to investigate and conceal real alien and UFO encounters. Written by Jim Marrs, New York Times best-selling author of Crossfire, Alien Agenda and Rule by Secrecy. This story and the trail of scientific discovery presented in this film proves that the official US government position on UFOs has been, and still is, a carefully orchestrated deception designed to hide the most extraordinary secret in recorded history. Includes the shocking facts behind this amazing story and features video, photos, and secret government documents, along with a fascinating series of spellbinding interviews with investigators, witnesses, researchers, scientists, astronauts and the best known most credible UFO authorities in the world today. Packed with expert analysis, in dept commentary and unforgettable conclusions about this alarming cover-up.

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/307/062/The_Secret_-_Evidence_We_Are_Not_Alone_-_Full_Version.html

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A VERY CURIOUS THREAD WITH SEVERAL LINKS:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641393/pg1

A Re-inhabited American Republic? New ID's?, page

POSTED BY SWCCFAN:

posted on 16/12/2010 @ 15:07 this post First a little background:

Provost Marshalls to Serve Notice To Governors of All 50 States: www.abovetopsecret.com...

My first thread was on this topic: [SEE LINK HERE AT THE ATS LINK ABOVE]

Another tread covered it here: www.abovetopsecret.com... Tim Turner of RAP has 30 metric tonnes of Gold: [SEE LINK AT ATS LINK ABOVE]

Now I was involved very early on with the Restore America Plan I was one of the Grandjurors. I was also one of the 27 people in my state that had the Balls to sign the letters to the Govornor of Mississippi. As expected we were all contacted by the FBI and were vetted out not be any threat. Off the Record one of the agents told me that they hope that it worked.

Now last night I was listening to a confrence call and one of the 'New' Supreme Court Justices was talking about the new photo Id's, 3 of them. So I checked it out the can be found here: www.republicoftheunitedstates.org... and Here:

[SEE LINK FOR: bureauofrepublicrecords AT ATS LINK ABOVE]

I have to say they look good and people have 'claimed' to have used them already at airports at TSA checkpoints with out any problems. I personally have no confirmation of this. That is the main reason I am posting this thread is to see if any on ATS have any proof that they work.

Now back in October I and several other Militia members attended a meeting with Tim Turner in KY.

Everything he was saying sounded great until we asked for proof. He could not prove anything with the 30 MT of gold they claim to have possession of. We were told that the Joint Cheifs of staff and the DOJ were on board. So we asked for a meeting. We were promised a Meeting with the DOJ and have to date had no such meeting. I have called mr. Turner and was told that no promises were made. So moving on.

At that meeting we were told that the Militias would be the new Law Enforcement during the transition. ( Bad idea ) We were also told that members of the militia and Law Enforcement on board with the Republic could interview to be a republic ranger. Basicly they would have more athority than the US Marshials, DHS, and FBI.

The more Mr. Turner talked the more it began to sound like a Plan "B" for the NWO.

So I have come to 2 possible conclusions:

1. They have been sucessful ( seeing as none of them are in jail or dead )

2. They are the backdoor plan for a NWO for after the collapse.

I am split between the 2 possibilities.

There are a lot of good, smart men and women involved and it would be tragic if they were all conned into the plan just to be used to further the goals of a small group.

I guess the real issue I have with the whole thing it the secrecy even within the Mississippi Republic mississippirepublic.org... None of them have answered my questions.

So what are your thoughts?

edit on 16-12-2010 by SWCCFAN because: add text

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MAYAN HIGH COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 500 YEARS?

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641101/pg1

SOURCE THREAD:

http://mayasoma.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/steady-are-you-ready/

The High Mayan Council has spoken for the first time in 500 years. Truth has been revealed: “THE END OF TIME WINDOW HAS BEEN VERIFIED AND IT BEGAN ON OCTOBER 24, 2007 – (completing anytime from now until 2015). COMET HOLMES EXPLOSION HAS BEEN VERIFIED AS THE BLUE KACHINA. (This was the final Hopi sign that indigenous cultures awaited.) TOTAL LOSS OF MAGNETOSPHERE WILL SIGNAL A MAGNETIC POLE REVERSAL WHICH WILL SIGNAL A PHYSICAL POLE SHIFT 16 TO 17 DEGREES INTO RUSSIA. IT WILL TAKE APPROX. 20HRS AND THE WORLD WILL BE IN TOTAL DARKNESS FOR 30HRS. (Apparently this does occur approximately every 5200 years).

MAYA ARE PREPARING FOR THE 13 CRYSTAL SKULL CEREMONY. 13 SKULLS…(Drunvalo has confirmed this fact), 1 SKULL FOR EVERY THOUSAND YEARS SINCE THE LAST POLE SHIFT. THE 1ST SKULL WAS MADE PRE-SHIFT BY THE ATLANTEANS, 12 SKULLS HAVE SINCE BEEN MADE BY THE MAYA (POST-SHIFT ATLANTEAN PRIESTS AND PEOPLES). THE COUNCIL GOES ON TO SAY THAT TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THE SIGN OF AN ADVANCED CIVILIZATION…ITS THE SIGN OF A CIVILIZATION ABOUT TO ADVANCE.

MAYA HAVE BEEN THROUGH MANY POLE SHIFTS AND ARE PREPARING FOR THE NEXT ONE WHICH THEY SAY (AND CERTAIN SCIENTISTS AGREE) COULD HAPPEN ANY MINUTE…LOOK FOR THE MISSING OF OUR MAGNETOSPHERE.”

Keisha Crowther, Shaman, also said similar things in a talk she gave in Zurich in November 2010. [2 YOUTUBE LINKS ARE AT ATS LINK ABOVE]

Keisha explains about the 13 crystal skulls in the Q&A sessions, she also talks about the star beings and how we can help heal the water on our planet. Q&A sessions:

[2 MORE YOUTUBE LINKS ARE AT THE ATS LINK ABOVE]

So, brothers and sisters....interesting times. We are being told here is nothing to fear. Peace and love.

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TIME TO LEAVE AMERICA--EVEN BE IT NAKED?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641000/pg1

POSTED BY PIRHANNA:

posted on 15/12/2010 @ 12:25 this post This is the inevitable result of the war on terrorism. Everyone that is for truth and freedom is a terrorist.

I was watching a documentary regarding a Jewish woman named Bromm (surname) last night. She stated that she knew she had to get out of Germany even if it meant she left completely naked. They made her pay taxes for an extra year in advance and she wasn't allowed to transfer money or her assets out of Germany when she left. This woman got out when she could, while many did not, and they ended up burned in ovens or starved to death.

So, I've been thinking. What is that marker that says one should leave a country? I've tossed around the idea in the past, but never quite as seriously as I consider it today. Has America slid past the event horizon, only to self destruct and never again be seen?

If free speech is terrorism, then how long before we are corralled and gagged? If lies are the new truth, then can we in good conscious continue this descent? The media, the supposed bastions of free speech, have effectively ended free speech and dissent. The truly unnerving aspect is that much of the world seems to be following this lead. Here comes the NWO. Time to look for an out of the way property in South America if you have the funds. Otherwise, prepare yourself to leave naked.

Journalism = Terrorism. [SLAVISH] Patriotism = Mindless Subjection

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TIME TO SPEAK UP PART 3:

http://th3j35t3r.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/time-to-speak-up-part-three/

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PHOTO: DAY NIAGRA FALLS RAN DRY:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread641401/pg1

VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFxqjfdBEMg

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DAT'S ALL FOLKS.

47 posted on 12/16/2010 7:26:24 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
That's the caliber of post I need, baby!

Yeah!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

48 posted on 12/16/2010 8:04:21 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: The Comedian

THX TONS FOR YOUR KIND AFFIRMATIONS.

BIG HUGS.


49 posted on 12/16/2010 8:08:24 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


50 posted on 12/16/2010 9:28:01 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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