DANIEL's 69 PROPHETIC WEEKS

WORDPRESS.COM ^ | December 5, 2010 | Pmary65

[skr]

pfl

[papabrody]

This is so inaccurate on so many levels.........egads.

[Ezekiel]

This is so inaccurate on so many levels.........egads.

At least it includes key verse 23, which is usually "cut off" in these interpretive schemes.

[ROTB]

Another perspective on which uses:

1) the Masoretic break after verse 25
2) 365 day solar years
3) Cyrus as one of the anoint-eds

http://www.biblicalstudies.com/bstudy/eschatology/daniel.htm

Isaac Newton has an interpretation also.

[Quix]

THANKS.

PING TO END TIMES LIST FYI

[circlecity]

"Isaac Newton has an interpretation also."

So did Jonathan Edwards. The end times date setters and headline chasers are so entertaining. They are the comics section of the theological newspaper.

[Joya]

Glory to God.

[Doofer]

I’m probable blind but where is anybody setting a time on the Lords return in this topic?

[davidosborne]

bump for index

[Lee N. Field]

Daniel’s vision has been interpreted with various methods of calculation from the time in the second rebuilding of the temple by Nehemiah in 445 B.C. to a later tangible crucifixion year in the ‘cutting off ‘ of the Messiah.

OK, I've got a good idea where this is coming from. Likely, bog standard dispensationalism. If that's not where you're going, well, please excuse me.

If you pick just the right starting point, and do the math juuuust right, you land at Jesus' triumphal entry into Jerusalem in 33 AD. It's complicated and fragile, and, according to a Jewish commenter in a previous thread where this came up (maybe Topcat54 will have that bookmarked) makes incorrect assumptions about how the ancient Jewish year went.

And, it completely fails to take into account what's happening in the first half of Daniel 9.

http://www.pmary65.wordpress.com

Blog flogging.

[dartuser]

And, it completely fails to take into account what's happening in the first half of Daniel 9.

Please explain in detail what you mean ...

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Lee N. Field]

Read MGK's Covenant of the 70th Week.

[CynicalBear]

Would you please put me on that list?

[Quix]

DONE.

Now to save it over several drives. LOL.

[CynicalBear]

That page is one of the best, if not the best, explanation and breakdown I have ever read. Thank you for posting that.

[dartuser]

The article did have some very good background information in it ... was a nice summary of the ties to the Mosaic covenant. However, I see a major leap of faith between the body of the paper and the conclusions drawn.

The authors assumption that the temple was the focal point of Daniels prayer is patently incorrect. Daniel doesnt even remotely refer to the temple. Its fairly apparent (upon reading the rest of the article) that the authors main purpose for assuming this is so that she (or maybe he, Im not sure) can eventually make the connection to the destruction in 70 AD.

Second, it seems silly that the author would claim literal fulfilment of the first 69 weeks, in so many words, ... then abondon that approach and accept a spiritual fulfillment for the rest of the prophecy. This is where the position breaks down into speculation. The contortions that must be undertaken to stretch out the required time frame for the 70th week to absorb the events of 70 AD are just too extreme.

Then exercising His royal heavenly rule over all the nations, Messiah in the midst of the seventieth week would send forces of destruction against the Jerusalem temple

appears that the last half of the seventieth week is the age of the community of the new covenant,

the last half week is the age of the church in the wilderness of the nations for a time, and times, and half a time

Come on ...

Finally, and surely the most severe problem; the author never once mentions the kingdom.

How is that even possible?

After major prophecies of world kingdoms there is not even a mention. The entire book of Daniel is set in the context of kingdoms. A lost kingdom, current world kingdom, the hope of a restored kingdom, and prophecies of future kingdoms.

What exactly does this author think is going to be restored after the exile? The Mosaic covenant? Please ... that motif is too restrictive given the entire historical context of Daniel. Daniel and every other Jew in exile was expecting a KINGDOM to be restored after the exile. The disciples in Acts 1 were STILL expecting the restoration of the kingdom. This supports the notion that Gabriels instruction WAS a clarification of the restoration prophecies, something the author dispenses with out-of-hand.

Again, some good historical information ... but the conclusions fail to answer some fundamental questions of the text ... and the context.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

What's even more entertaining are the sad delusional saps who have convinced themselves that the approximately 25% of Scripture which is prophetic is meaningless, even in the face of historical fulfillment of many of those prophecies and the ongoing fulfillment of the prophecies concerning the return of Christ.

And downright knee-slapping is the fervent belief held by many of the Scripture-deniers that all the prophecies that do concern the return of Christ happened in 70AD. That would include, mind you, the total blind, mindless acceptance of the impossibility that the technology existed in 70AD for every single person on the face of the earth to be numbered and for one man to be able to know who on the earth is numbered and who is not.

So I'd have to give the Emmy for best comedy to those who can deny the Bible and live in the alternative reality of allegorization of God's word and preterism and Scripture re-writes that erase entire books of the Bible and have every confidence that what they do and believe is just fine with God.

Not only is it hilarious, it's pathetic.

[circlecity]

I’m no preterist. Thus, you powers of observation are as weak as your exegesis. But don’t worry, there will be a new headline to chase and fit into your fantasies any minute now.