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Will Smithmas return this year? [Merry Smithmas!? Lds' Joseph Smith b'day usurps Christ's birth?]
Mormon Discussions.com ^ | Nov. 30, 2012 | Aristotle Smith

Posted on 12/01/2012 3:10:48 PM PST by Colofornian

I just realized that Christmas falls on a Tuesday this year, so December 23 is on a Sunday. This of course provides a great opportunity for the LDS church to prove its Christian roots by using that day to talk about Joseph Smith, it is his birthday after all.

So, will the average LDS ward celebrate Smithmas or Christmas on December 23 this year? I'm guessing my wife's ward will split the difference and dedicate part to Joseph Smith and part to Jesus. I may even have to show up and pay attention to see what happens, it could be entertaining.


TOPICS: Current Events; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: birthday; inman; josephsmith; mormons; posteroffmeds; smithmas
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From the forum: ...December 23 is on a Sunday. This of course provides a great opportunity for the LDS church to prove its Christian roots by using that day to talk about Joseph Smith, it is his birthday after all. So, will the average LDS ward celebrate Smithmas or Christmas on December 23 this year? I'm guessing my wife's ward will split the difference and dedicate part to Joseph Smith and part to Jesus.

Want evidence that the Mormon church leaders continually replace Jesus Christ with Joseph Smith at this time of year? I especially recommend these articles from Mormons...

* A Prophet’s Life: The Cradle—Sharon, Vermont [Mormon Merry Smithmas Day!]
* The Joseph Smith Crèche at BYU, December 2005 [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
* Dealing with “Smithmas” [Mormon worship of Joseph Smith]
* “Praise To The Man”: A Review Of The Annual Joseph Smith Memorial Sermons [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
* Joseph Smith: a witness of Christ [O Come, O Come EmmanSMITHuel, anyone?]
* The dreaded Christmastime ward sacrament meeting [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
* Praising the man [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
* Exploring: The Church Began with a Prophet [Mormon Merry Smithmas Day!]

These other recent threads provide additional evidence:
* Reasons Joseph Smith Is More Important Than Jesus [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
* 'Praise to the Man' honors Joseph Smith [Mormon Merry Smithmas!]
* Joseph Smith: Blessed Be His Name [Mormon Merry Smithmas]
* Joseph Smith Jr.—Prophet of God, Mighty Servant
* Tis the season for Smithmas; Whom do you worship? [Mormon Merry Smithmas]

1 posted on 12/01/2012 3:10:56 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Will Smithmas?

Ho ho ho.

2 posted on 12/01/2012 3:16:36 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Colofornian

Now when all the snark starts flowing you will get all huffy.

Really, what do you expect posting something like this?


3 posted on 12/01/2012 3:21:58 PM PST by DManA
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To: Colofornian

Since the ending ‘mas’ actually refers to the mass ie the death of the Nazarene why would anyone celebrate a mass as a birth day??? Moreover since the Nazarene wasn’t born in December but rather September what bdifference does any of it make?? I enjoy the lights and songs and goto the church of my youth because I still like hearing Christmas carols sung by a full choir with organ accompaniment. I have no illusions about the day...it is a pagan celebration and always has been. This day my faith does not make....


4 posted on 12/01/2012 3:22:41 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Colofornian
Joseph Smith was a sexual predator.
5 posted on 12/01/2012 3:26:43 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Colofornian

Smithmas? Oh LDS.

I don’t think we have any of youse guys here in NY.

Christmas will be the 25th. The 24th will be Merry Fishmas if you are of Italian extraction. And Boxing Day will be in overseas p and not here and has a tendency to cause tsunamis.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 3:29:04 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Colofornian

Good news!

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7 posted on 12/01/2012 3:48:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Colofornian

Last year Saundra and Resty directed me to a lecture by one of the twelve for the Christmas season, it was about fifteen minutes long.
The name of (lds) jesus was not even mentioned until the eight minute mark and only once, then once again at the very end.
Because JS bday is on a Sunday my guess that will be the focus.


8 posted on 12/01/2012 4:02:29 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Colofornian

Smith is more important than Christ...


9 posted on 12/01/2012 4:09:06 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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Joseph Smith Nativity Pictures, Images and Photos

The caption reads: "As we commemorate the birth of the baby in Betheleham, the Savior of the world, may we also remember his messenger Joseph Smith, and rejoice in his life and sacrifice."

10 posted on 12/01/2012 4:17:51 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We told you Mitt couldn't win.)
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To: Colofornian

Colornian

When I want to understand the depth of the true Love of Christ, a just use an opposite contrast and finally conclude that ....

Jesus Christ must love Mankind, as much as Colofornian hates the Latter-Day-Saints (Mormons)

Quite an accomplishment in Irony Colofornian!


11 posted on 12/01/2012 4:23:40 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder why we haven’t bought it yet???


12 posted on 12/01/2012 4:31:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Nifster

If Navidad celebrations bespeak “pagan” to you, then by all means pass them up. Otherwise don’t complain.

Most modern Christians aren’t even aware of pagan connotations that many elements of the modern celebration once commonly had. It can be debated whether this is a bad or good thing, but it reflects a common practical manner of the church in transforming the meanings of things in the creation that had been taken by paganism to be pagan symbols but which are not good or bad of themselves.


13 posted on 12/01/2012 4:34:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Nifster

Also, of course the -mass reflects Orthodox/Roman-Catholic practice. The communion service was traditionally integrated with whatever Christian calendar topic was timely, so you got this-mas(s) and that-mas etc. It so happened that the common belief that the Nativity happened on or about December 25 gave rise to Christ-mas(s).

Now that evangelical and Protestant churches don’t have “masses” for communion, and may not even celebrate communion every week, Christ-mas(s) is the only survivor. “Nativity” would be a better name, but hardly anyone uses it in English. Hispanics with their Navidad have it easier with this theological detail.


14 posted on 12/01/2012 4:39:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: skeeter
Will Smithmas?


15 posted on 12/01/2012 5:33:58 PM PST by mnehring
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To: teppe

Do you know the difference between Mormanism and Mormans? Your hatred of exposing evil will disappear when you gain that knowledge. “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.” Eph 5:11


16 posted on 12/01/2012 5:36:19 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Nifster

Christmas is NOT a pagan holiday. December 25 was indeed used by pagans, but Christians use it for their own Christian purposes. Today is Saturday, a day named after the pagan god Saturn. I seriously doubt you refuse to acknowledge that it is Saturday. You just don’t celebrate Saturn’s Day. There’s a huge difference between those two ideas.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 7:00:17 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: mnehring

Isn’t Will Smith a scientologist?


18 posted on 12/01/2012 7:08:35 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: teppe; Colofornian
Jesus Christ must love Mankind, as much as Colofornian hates the Latter-Day-Saints

I've never seen any evidence that Colofornian hates any latter day saint, if you have, please cite an example. Maybe you meant latter day saintism.

19 posted on 12/01/2012 8:12:40 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: teppe
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

20 posted on 12/01/2012 8:21:45 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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