Posted on 04/18/2013 3:15:23 PM PDT by NYer
This is where contraception differs from ethical healthcare. The purpose of ethical healthcare is to restore health: "duh", you're thinking, but let me specify: to cure disease, to heal injury, to repair a defect or deformity, to strengthen weak or failing organs and systems, with a view to bring the body back towards full functionality.
That's what justifies drugs, devices, and surgery: the real definition of medicine as the "healing arts."
The purpose of contraception is obviously to temporarily or permanently destroy function. It is just as immoral as a non-medically-indicated removal or an eye or a nose, a castration, amputation, or female genital mutilation.
It shows a seriously perverse rejection of the human personal design --- it's "anti-humanistic" --- and, if you believe in God, also anti-divine.
So if I choose not to have sex on the six days or so that pregnancy can occur, am I practicing contraception?
Well, you’d be engaging in sex while preventing conception by avoiding the six day window, no?
I understand that you are defending a Catholic belief, but the majority of fertilized eggs don’t end up being babies in the first place. For my part it is more logical to believe that at implantation or the formation of the nervous system a baby becomes a living soul.
Having sex for reasons other than childbearing isn’t contrary to God’s plan. If it were we’d have a strict breeding season like animals, only we’re made in an outline of God.
Having sex for reasons other than childbearing isn’t contrary to God’s plan.
One's motives for engaging in sex are a separate issue from having sex while interfering with the potential for conception. However, it's interesting that just about all the differences between men and women are aspects of our capacity for motherhood and fatherhood. Not just "sex organs" at the most base level, but the entire reproductive systems, both in physical design and in chemistry. The entire endocrine system and all its functions, not only in conception and childbearing, but in long-term childrearing and family formation. Even our differences in size and strength are oriented toward our complementary roles as parents.
Our capacity for procreation is not simply a peripheral aspect of our human nature as male and female, it is central. This is only logical when we consider that God, in whose image we are created, is a community of three Persons, interacting profoundly in life-affirming love. One might even say that our capacity to "have sex" is the peripheral element, just one little thing in the big picture of participating in God's plan to fill the earth with living and loving beings in His image.
No. Contraception = contracepted sex (a more accurate term.) Contraception is the choice of an act of sex which has been altered, spayed, disabled, changed or impaired in some way so that conception won't occur. You are not choosing any act of sex at all if you are abstaining for 6 days, therefore, you are not practicing contracepted sex.
Plus, you can;t reasonably say that abstinence is a form of contraception, because then all chaste abstinent persons (virgins, chaste widows, celibate nuns, monks, priests, the young and the elderly that are not sexually active, etc.) are are therefore contraceptors; which obviously they are not.
Here's an example which should make it clearer: in the 1960's there was a political/military crisis in what was then called the Belgian Congo, with a race war breaking out against whites. The militants employed rape against white women as well as other forms of violence.
There were some Catholic Medical Missionary nuns there who felt it would be wrong to abandon their sick patients at remote medical/clinical stations, but didn't want to get pregnant from rape. Therefore they were advised to wear diaphragms if their mission stations were overrun. Diaphragms are a kind of internal female contraceptive.
However, this was not the sin of contraception, since they weren't choosing any sex at all. Since they did not choose sex, therefore they did not choose contraceptive sex. And the (justifiable) purpose of the diaphragms was to defend against aggression --- the deposit of sperm in their reproductive system being an element of the aggression/invasion of their attackers.
In short: if you didn't chosen sex, you didn't chosen contraception.
I like your new tagline!
"Well, you’d be engaging in sex while preventing conception by avoiding the six day window, no?"No.
If you're avoiding sex, say, the first 6 days of May because you have reason to believe you're fertile, you're not engaging in a contracepted, impaired sex act.
If you ARE having sex on May 7-30 in the wife's natural infertile period, you're still not engaging in contraception, because you're practicing normal, natural sex.
That could be the motto here: "Normal female sexuality is not a bug: it's a feature."
It's a GOOD thing. It's splendid, delightful, terribly clever. It's not a BAD thing. It's not a disease. It's not something that needs to be doctored, altered, or fixed.
I understand that you are defending a Catholic belief..."
OK, this is part of the Catholic ethic, but not in an exclusive or distinctive way. It's part of the "human" ethic. Not one Christian Church on earth approved of contraception before the Anglican Lambeth Conference of 1930, which broke what was then the solid consensus of worldwide Christianity.
Moreover, the objections to contraception come from both Biblical worldview and Natural Law. Anybody --- Christian or non-Christian, religious or non-religious --- should be able to see that the natural and logical consequence of contraception is the destruction of respect between men and women, the destruction of marriage as an institution, and the destruction of human societies. (The-thing-that-used-to-be-Europe will be gone in another generation.) It is so much more obvious now, than it was in Margaret Sanger's day 100 years ago.
Abortion acceptance results from from contraceptive acceptance. LGBT unnatural sex (for the 2%) is deemed acceptable because contracepted sex (for the 98%) is deemed acceptable.
(There's no reasonable way to be for contracepted sex but against sodomitic sex --- unless you really are just reacting on the basis of homophobic prejudice.)
Sin (brokenness) enters in when we split this wholeness up into garbled fragments: gender here, generation there, affection over here, excitement over there. The most maiming split, is the split of fertility away from sexual union. Pretty near every other part of the deconstruction of sex--- I could say "decomposition" --- starts from that.
"... but the majority of fertilized eggs don’t end up being babies in the first place."
We all know that. We passed our Sixth Grade Health class. :o)
"For my part it is more logical to believe that at implantation or the formation of the nervous system a baby becomes a living soul."
Actually, for this discussion, it doesn't matter. The moral offensiveness of contraception is not because it is the rejection of the ensouled/embodied unborn person. (That's what abortion is.)
What contraception is, is the rejection of the ensouled/embodied female person. It's seeing women-as-we-are, as a problem. It's seeing real sexuality as being inherently defective, because pregnancy can occur. It's seeing a woman's unaltered body as a problem. One which can be "solved" by drugs, devices and surgery, which is to say, by disabling the very functions that make her, distinctively, a woman.
It says in a kind of Body English: "It's so aggravating that you're a whole, healthy and functional female. Grr. (Gnashing teeth.) I wish you were more like a boy. A boy with a vagina and tits."
"Having sex for reasons other than childbearing isn’t contrary to God’s plan."
Of course not. We're not planned for "just childbearing" in some animal-reductionist sense. We're planned so that love-giving and life-giving are intricately related. The Song of Solomon in particular focuses on the desire-longing-you're-wonderful-comfort-body-fulfillment-pleasure part. Childbearing while not mentioned, is never surgically excised or rejected either. Nobody in all Scripture ever puts his semen in a baggie, throws it away, and is called blessed!
"If it were we’d have a strict breeding season like animals, only we’re made in an outline of God."
Yes. Think of that. We're made in an outline of God. That means the way we're made is both Revelatory (shows us something about God) and Providential (it provides for our real needs, it shows us something about ourselves.)
If that's really true, then the human persons are not just meat bags. We are living Signs. Signs of God's Design.
Real human sex is about connecting and coupling. Contraception is about disconnecting and de-coupling. It's taking sex apart, removing some Godlike things about it, and then putting it back together with disabled functions, a chosen sabotage of the Design, and calling that good.
Contraception is not, by the way, immoral when practiced on animals as a legitimate part of Veterinary Medicine. There's nothing wrong with spaying and neutering pets and livestock, nor, conversely, of artificially inseminating and breeding pets and livestock.
The reason it's OK for Veterinary Medicine and Livestock Breeding is because it was never said that they are created in the Image and Likeness of God. Sex for them is "animal" but is not truly "personal".
But we are persons, divine images, and thus sacred. One of the implications of "sacred" is, "Do not sabotage. Do not disassemble. Something transcendent here.".
That is why we are not to mess with our own design. It's messing with the Image and Likeness of God. It's messing with the Designer.
Interesting. I had not heard of this situation in the Congo, although I remember reading about the horrible war there in Fr. Werenfried Van Straaten's book, among other sources.
When my violent and sarcastic daughter was researching the armed services, it was mentioned that young women often used hormonal medications to prevent periods while in situations where having periods would be really horrible. We discussed the difference between that and contraception, although ultimately she decided against this prescription because of the greater health risks, especially after she began smoking.
It almost seems as if you’ve incorporated some phrases and concepts from my self-absorbed rants of the past year ... or am I just flattering myself and you thought of it all when I was still in elementary school?
And: one reason I write so --- much -- is that sometimes I don't know what I think until I read what I wrote.
They'll take care of the more troubling aspects by removing human ovaries from trannies (who are glad to be rid of them!) and transplanting them into pigs, so they can get eggs with unparalleled efficiency and convenience; and if the pig dies you get pork chops on the side.
But, ruh-roh, what would PeTA say?
You are talking about Natural Family Planning which is endorsed by the Catholic Church. It’s not the OLD rhythm method, however.
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If my husband wants a child, but I carefully ensure sex outside of the six day window am I not practicing contraception? I think the catechism definition doesn't match the dictionary defintion of contraception.
Celibacy is a form of contraception. The Catholic position is a throw back to a time of greater ignorance about human sexuality. You may agree with it, but it doesn't make sense.
Your arguments on the philosophical effects are more interesting, but don't hold water. I think they do make sense as applied to abortion, but that's murder.
celibacy is contraception?
That is just whacked
"Contraception" dictionary links
As you can see, "contraception" is defined by the dictionary as a method of using drugs, devices, surgery or some sex practice (such as withdrawal) which deprives sexual union of its inherent fertilty, that is, to avoid pregnancy.
For that reason, contraception is an ACT.
It is to be distinguished from natural infertility, which results from several natural factors: age (before menarche or after menopause); time of cycle (a woman's ovulatory cycle has fertile and infertile periods); pregnancy and lactational amenorrhea, and so forth.
The moral difference between, say, using an endocrine disruptor like "the Pill" and and using NFP, is that the endocrine disruption impairs or disables the natural design of the body, whereas NFP reverences and cooperates with the natural design of the body.
There is other moral factors to consider: is the avoidance of pregnancy from a serious reason (maternal health, serious poverty, inability to care for a child) --- or is it from self-serving lifestyle considerations, i.e. we don't ant to get pregnant because we don't want the hassles involved with pregnancy and childbirth, we're going on a cruise in 6 months and I want to look good in my bikini, etc.)
IN the first category (serious need) pregnancy avoidance can be not only allowable, but might be even morally required. In the second category (childless or nearly-childless lifestyle preference) the decision to avoid pregnancy is ungenerous to the God-proclaimed GOOD of new life --- treating a very great good as an evil --- and exemplifies the moral fault of selfishness, even if they did it via NFP.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to make these important distinctions.
They are not particular to me nor particular to the Catholic Church. A stance against artificial contraception was common to all Christian denominations, Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant/Evangelical, for the first 1900 years of Christianity. As I pointed out, it flows from Divine and Natural Law, as is becoming more and more clear with every passing day.
You misunderstand the definition and I expected that. It’s why I included the example I did. Let me include it again:
If my husband wants a child, but I carefully ensure sex outside of the six day window I am practicing contraception.
Your definition ignores this important and oft used method of contraception: not having sex at all or avoiding those times that a woman would be fertile.
There are moral implications to all those decisions, including whether to use pills, condoms, IUDs, etc. I understand that you are dutifully working to present your beliefs - NFP, anti-contraception and celibate priesthood - but the facts don’t hold.
You may believe as you like, though.
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