Posted on 09/25/2013 8:27:57 PM PDT by WXRGina
Reuters and other news agencies are reporting that the Pope has capitulated on several issues such as homosexuality, abortion and contraception.
The Pope’s remarks were taken from a 12,000 word interview with the Jesuit periodical, Civilta Cattolica, (Catholic Civilization) the most prominent statement reaching news agencies is his declaration that the church needs to shake off its obsession with abortion and homosexuality.
The Pope has pleased the liberal factions of the Catholic Church and sickened and worried the conservative members of the church.
Few have reported on the prophetic implications of the Pope’s remarks and with some exceptions, such as those made by Evangelist Bill Keller, most protestant news outlets remain free of op-eds or theological treatment of the Pope’s interview, at the moment.
Biblical Theology and Catholic Teachings – Always at Odds
Hundreds of traditional or patristic teachings of Catholicism are either in direct conflict with the bible or do not exist in the scriptures at all.
The list of theological discrepancies has been addressed repeatedly for centuries and there would be little room to cover them all in one short article.
What we must point out is that on two very important levels, those who stand on scripture can’t ever recognize the authority of the Pope – it has never been a matter of whether they like him or not, nor is it a matter of personal choosing.
First, Because of the Greek rendering of Matthew 16: 18, “That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” Protestants believe that Christ was referring to himself as the Rock, not Peter. This is supported by other scriptural passages, to wit:
“For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” (Mt 16: 18b)
Secondly, not one word in the bible speaks of ‘apostolic succession.’ It is a concoction of the Roman church, not a biblical teaching. It is very difficult even to support the teaching in view of the fact that there was no Catholic church for over 300 years after Christ came into the world. Most Catholics are totally unaware of this fact. They have been told they are the ‘first church,’ but true history betrays them.
Simply because these facts cannot keep the childlike faith of any Catholic from reaching the Savior does not justify or verify the truth of Catholicism’s origins. It is simply a matter of Catholics being saved or redeemed not because of their religion – but in spite of it!
The Real and Present Danger in the Discrepancies between the Papacy and the Bible
Gentle, but firm, is the only way to approach addressing the errors of Catholicism at the same time knowing that millions of Catholics are of the family of faith simply because Jesus said “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.” (Jn 6: 37)
Yet, it is more than an item of curiosity or some minor theological difference; it is a dire sense of urgency and concern, especially in the last days, that causes anyone who knows scripture to make fair warning.
I have repeated this warning so often that I think my publishers may think I’ve run out of new things to say. I’ll take that chance, as opposed to risking a confrontation with my Savior for not making it as abundantly clear as possible, while there is still time.
What warning you ask!
Any religion, Catholic or other, that derives its ultimate authority from a man is subject to heresy, apostasy and error depending on the personality, the current state of mind or the evolvement of personal ideologies in that man.
Faith based solely on the scriptures, the written accounts of Christ’s teaching and his Apostles and biblical prophets cannot be altered, changed or disputed until the very last day of time. God intended this; it is his way of grounding us on a rock instead of the sinking sands of a changing and unstable world, to wit:
“Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.” (Mt 7: 24, 25)
Christ relegated his authority to his Apostles and their teachings too are on the same level as his. They were not mere scribes or interpreters of his will they were Holy Spirit inspired and authorized to speak as final authorities.
“He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.” (Lk 10: 16)
Finally, since we will not be judged by what other men say – why would we waste time or risk being found in total error. Why not go to the source of truth and take Christ’s warning seriously?
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.” (Jn 12: 48)
So what did the Apostles really say about abortion, homosexuality and issues of the day?
The prophetic part of the bible contradicts the Pope’s assertion that believers are obsessed with homosexuality and abortion. In fact it warns that in the last days it is possession (demonic) that will fuel the slide into apostasy the world over.
Political correctness, floundering Pontiff’s and general acceptance of everything the bible condemns, is proof immutable, that the NWO, apostasy and the emergence of the Antichrist are well on track for the very near future. ‘Just don’t talk about it’ is the advice of fools. If the only choices are between obsession and possession it’s pretty much a no brainer.
Not only is homosexuality referred to as an abomination, to be noted, rebuked and refused as part of the church, but immoral behaviors were cause for people to be put out of the church and not allowed back in until they had fully repented. (1Co 5: 1-7) Should the perversion of same sex acts and marriage be an exception?
The idea of the Pope suggesting that we are over-talking the subject of abortions reaches to the heights of apostasy. The only voices the over two hundred million aborted babies worldwide have - is ours. Telling us to be silent is the moral equivalent of blasphemy.
After the Sandy Hook massacre of innocent children the liberals went after guns with a vengeance. Doesn’t it seem hypocritical that after 60,000,000 abortions in the U.S. and 160,000,000 abortions worldwide that telling us to pipe down is the only thing the Pope can think of to say? We will never be silent, or to borrow a phrase, you can pry my anti-abortion argument from my cold dead lips, but no other way.
The Folly of Following the Fallen
Has the Pope taken his first steps into the last day’s (apostasy) falling away? We can only hope he has not, but if this is the beginning of it, it is also the end of everything as we have known it.
“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” (2 Th 2: 3)
Who is Rev. Michael Bresciani and why is he so concerned about the Catholic Pope? It’s really noble of him, the world appreciates it, but let him become concerned about his own sect, whatever it is, Jehovah’s Witnesses, 7th Day Adventists, or Scientologists.So Catholicism is a sect (along with the three you mention, 2 of which are NOT Christian in any way), and the only choices for Bresciani's affiliation is Jehovah’s Witnesses, 7th Day Adventists, or Scientologists?
Again, interesting.
The Pope celebrates Mass daily. What do you mean by “getting rid of God’s word.”???
I think you are very mistaken.
Mass? It’s a tradition of man.
I understand, RM....no worries.
Thanks,
jodyel
The English word rapture does not appear in any of the current English translations of the Bible
Therefore it does not exist?
The English word Pope doesn not appear in current English translations of the Bible, so it is not a valid title using the above "logic"?
They would no longer stay in the Catholic Church if that were true, Sum.
http://www.reachingcatholics.org/catholic_saved.html
And I am really weary of this battle right now. The deception on this forum is so high I am going to have to leave it for now.
Thanks for your post,
jodyel
I don't think Brian is in folly. Brian is bright, intelligent, sincere, good-hearted, lots of fun, full of love for the Lord, and filled with the Holy Spirit.
What does that say about someone who calls him a fool?
LOL.
sitetest
You quite right about that. In my Bible, the term is "caught up."
I understand how you feel, jodyel, but leaving the forum is a victory for satan. If you aren’t here defending the faith, there is one less ambassador here, beseeching the lost to be reconciled to God, while there is still time. Rest, and then come back, refreshed, and waiting to defend the faith that was once delivered to the saints, again.
Again, small "c" needed as the "k" is lower case in the Greek.
The catholic church, universal church.
Made up of all Christians, and started long before Catholicism came into existence (except of course by re writing history to show that "Catholicism" started in the first century.)
People who are hurting as they are dying.
This is your "Evidence?" Huh?
This is your grand and glorious evidence. Wow!
By saying there was fear in the room by your mother who is a Christian(?) just standing there not saying prayers for the woman? Huh
I guess that is a real Christian in action?
I have been there too in a hospital. I would be praying with that person on Holy Spirit override.
The simplistic stereotype statement are just may I say Palpable. Yikes. What utter nonsense.
I recall two almost exactly the same. One was a 19 year boy dying of cancer and the other a very old Baptist preacher. Both of them with their final breaths said they saw Jesus.
Closer to home, when both my mother and my sister graduated from this life - when they entered their final coma - I felt their spirits go through me, assuring me that they were very happy and well.
And when my previous husband died we were SCUBA diving off Panama City, Florida, in what is called the "emerald sea" because the water is so green. As you dive deeper the water becomes an ever-deepening blue.
My husband suffered his final heart attack at 15 feet of water and fell back to more than 70 feet. I swam after him as fast as I could and just as I arrived, the water all around him turned a yellow/gold. I quickly stripped his weight belt and took his body to the surface. But it was obvious to me that I had seen his spirit leave his body at depth.
Likewise, all three of these had end of life requests that the Lord mercifully granted to them. Mom did not want a wheel chair or a nursing home and he spared her both. My sister wanted to be employed when she died, and He kept her employed through the day after. And my husband didn't want to become a cardiac cripple (he had a history of heart problems) and obviously he did not as God took him when he was SCUBA-diving.
Other family members had great mercies in their end of life situations. Indeed, one died on the very evening following his birthday party with family and friends. For him, that would have been a blessing.
And I truly believe that Alzheimer's disease is an end of life blessing for the ones suffering from it though certainly a great challenge for the care-givers. My remaining brother is currently late stage Alzheimer's.
Our blessed assurance in Christ comforts us not only in this mortal life but in our passing to the next one. Indeed, we Christians are already "there" even while still in the flesh:
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Col 3:3
http://www.reachingcatholics.org/catholic_saved.html
Really...if he were born again and Spirit filled he would not be a Roman Catholic.
But since all you silly, happy, intelligent, sincere, good-hearted, and full-of-love-for-a-false-lord people believe it, it must be true.
I’d say that probably makes you full of folly as well.
You can have great qualities and be a wonderful human being and still not be born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. Many good people on this planet with great qualities are still going to hell when they die.
And none of you would recognize righteous anger if it hit you between the eyes! So go on with your happy go-lucky, gosh, gee whiz, sweet, kind, lovely-hearted false gospel. Because it really does speak to what you want most from life and that is to be good and loved by others and seen to be godly....when in reality you are not saved, worship at the altar of a false religion, and are nowhere near the Lord Jesus Christ.
I would much rather be seen as I am, a sinner saved and covered by the blood of Christ than to have a goodness that sends me straight to hell.
Run back to your church then, all you Pollyannas. The rest of the team can deal with your saccharine selves cause I’ve had enough of your foolishness and ignorance to last a lifetime.
I am not leaving for good, smvoice....I will be back to kick Catholic arse another day. :)
OH, how beautiful, Alamo-Girl. As you shared your experiences with us, I’ll share my husband’s death with you all. He had leukemia, and almost died the first night we took him to M.D.Anderson. He was in CCU for 15 days, not expected to make it through. But he did. Then came the bone-marrow transplant. And he was not expected to make it through. But he did. And then, when we thought all was going great, he developed J.C. Virus, a virus that attacks the brain and for which there is no cure. We knew he would not make it through that. So we prayed that God would be merciful to him, in his last days. And He was. Gary wanted to come home to die. And they allowed him to. He could not speak, but he could hear. And he heard Scripture, beautiful music, and the voices of all who loved him. God took him after 3 weeks of this virus. It was a peaceful passing and the last words he tried mightily to form was “love”. I am convinced of that, and so is his son. God is so merciful in His grace!
We are overdue for a Religion Forum zot thread...
Thanks sitetest. But I am a fool for rising to the bait and not turning the other cheek. I’ve walked away from most of the nonsense here but every now and then ...
HAH! Tell ME!! Hey, I’m just a jester jouster in this forum. Look for me when the zot begins...I’ll be the one wearing the big shoes riding my horse. With the big red nose poking out of my iron mask. You can’t miss me!
:)
Thank you oh so very much, dear sister in Christ, for sharing your testimony and his with us. And thank God for both of you!
LOL
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