Posted on 02/15/2014 10:52:59 AM PST by NKP_Vet
As Romney has said, many of his religion’s leaders are pro-choice.
Harry Reid is a truly, tested, and proven, devout Mormon, he is among the most devout and devoted of all Mormons, as are Beck and Bishop Romney.
“As Romney has said, many of his religion’s leaders are pro-choice”.
And so is Romney. Maybe being for the murder of the unborn makes a Morman “devout”. It must be, it’s their official stance.
By the way the no abortion but with exceptions clause has been the official position of the Republican Party for years. The republicans that have a true pro-life stance and believe every child has a right to life, are ostracized by their own party and called EXTREME right-wingers by the party of death, the democrat party.
What makes a practitioner of Mormonism devout, is whether he applies for and passes his examination for temple membership, if he does pass, then he is issued ID which allows him to enter and participate in the secrets of the Temples, that we see in many major cities.
He must go through that process every two years, and few Mormons are in that circle of the most devout, the most devoted, some say that only about 15% are.
The lessor Mormons attend regular Mormon churches and are not allowed inside the temples, or even to witness the marriages conducted inside.
Governor Mitt Romney: I’m proud of my faith. There is nothing I distance myself from. There are Mormons in the leadership of my Church who are pro-choice, and they do not violate that. Your not a lawyer, but you have to read that a little bit more carefully. For instance my Church says, that if you have sex outside marriage that you could be excommunicated. Now, do we make a law that says that? No
Can you post that portion of the GOP platform?
Romney said that he disagree with the platform, because it doesn't have exceptions.
In case you don't respond, I want people to know that you either made that up yourself, or got it from somewhere else, it isn't accurate.
The GOP platform is firmly pro-life.
"the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed."
Romney's veep choice reflected the no exceptions platform.
“the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed.”
Show me in the above words where it says no abortion for any reason? If this is the 2012 GOP plaform official position, the wiggle room is there for exceptions and that’s why the majority of the republicans that ran for the nomination were RINOs that supported exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother. It has always been the position of the Bushes once they had to choose a position (the old man was pro-choice when Reagan selected him as his running mate and Reagan got him to change to “pro-life” which he did, but with exceptions). It is the position of John McCain, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney. You are wrong about Paul Ryan. Yes as a Catholic he was firmly pro-life with no exceptions, but when he signed on with Romney he went against his church and said he was for exceptions in cases of rape, incest and life of the mother. In otherwords he threw his faith under the Bus for political expediency. I can remember him making the talk show circuit after Romney put him on the ticket and when asked about abortion position he said “my position is like Governor Romney, I am pro-life but will allow for exceptions in rape, incest and life of the mother”. The only republicans that have ran for president in recent memory that were firmly pro-life was Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, and Rick Perry, who came to his senses after seeing a living baby in a sonogram. Abortion will be off the table next year. The big social issue will be same-sex marriage, and I would be willing to bet that there’s no definition of marriage in the 2016 GOP Platform. The GOP is running scared of being seen as homo-phobic.
http://www.ontheissues.org/house/Paul_Ryan_Abortion.htm
That isn't true, and is something that you made up, show me those exceptions in the GOP platform.
You try answering my question for a change or take a hike. The truth of the matter is what I just told you. Your heroes in the GOP are just about as bad as democrats on abortion.
And again you get caught making up stuff.
Show us that part of the GOP platform that you claim, and I have never been a republican, or a member of any party, ever.
Let me fix that little word that bothers you so.
“By the way the no abortion but with exceptions clause has been the UNOFFICIAL position of the Republican Party for years”.
The GOP’s official statement on life in the GOP platform is a vague statement to cover RINOs that control the party. As in George W. Bush’s website always saying he believed in the “sanctity of life”. He NEVER said on his website that he believed in murdering children if he didn’t like who the father was, as in rape, incest and the ridiculous “life of the mother”, something that hardly ever happens. I’ve gotten in arguments with people that voted for the Bushes when I told them the Bushes real position on abortion. The Bushes are for selective abortion, as was Bob Dole, John McCain and the majority of every republican that has ran for president in the last 25 years. Is the GOP better than democrats on abortion, of course they are. Anyone that believes in abortion on demand for any reason is a monster and that’s the democrat party.
By admitting that your claim was false, that makes a big difference, I believe that I had seen you make that false claim before, and I hope that we don’t see it again.
The GOP platform, does not allow for rape and incest.
“The GOP platform, does not allow for rape and incest”.
If the GOP didn’t allow for exceptions it would clearly state that fact. It is ambiguous for a reason. Do you think the platform bothered Mitt Romney one bit? Not hardly. Did it bother McCain, Not hardly. Did it bother Bush, not hardly. All believe in murdering babies if they don’t like who the father is and all ran for president with one of these pro-choice RINOs serving 8 years.
You can't just keep making up things in your mind, and posting them as facts on the internet. Please stop doing that.
"Do you think the platform bothered Mitt Romney one bit? Not hardly."
August 27, 2012 CBS interview with Scott Pelley:
PELLEY: Well, the platform as written at this convention for the Republicans does not allow for exceptions on abortion with regard to the health of the mother or rape or incest. Is that where you are?
ROMNEY: No. My position has been clear throughout this campaign. I’m in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother.
In other words Romney didn’t give a damn what the GOP platform said. No RINOs care. That’s why they keep getting nominated election after election. They know the wording is vague and they can do whatever they feel like doing. RINOs control the party and have since Ronald Reagan, who was the last true conservative. As long as they control the party pro-abortion candidates will be ran against the democrat. JEB Bush is the latest, who claims to be a Catholic but goes directly the teachings of his faith with the exceptions clause, like all good RINOs do.
The wording isn’t vague.
You made up a false claim and keep trying to maintain it.
You shouldn’t be the one preaching.
Why are taking up for them? You never criticize these pro-aborts. All republicans good, all others bad, when some republicans are as liberal as any democrat. I tell you who they are and you ignore it. I tell you the GOP platform does not mention exceptions and that’s how the pro-aborts like the Bushes and McCains get off the hook. But nary a word from you. Interesting that someone who claims to be pro-life doesn’t think the GOP platform should flatly state “there will no exceptions for abortion for any reason”. The reason? They don’t want to run off the liberal republicans they need to win an election and don’t want to be labeled as “extreme” by the liberal media. In other words they are cowards. But you give them a pass.
So now you are going to switch from making false claims about the GOP platform, to totally making up false posts for me.
You really need to speak to someone about your relationship with telling the truth.
“”By the way the no abortion but with exceptions clause has been the official position of the Republican Party for years.””
Absolutely false, show us those exceptions in the party platform.
You are making it up.
If you can’t answer my postings do yourself and me a big favor and quit wasting both our times. The only takeaway from your refusal to answer anything put to you about these pro-aborts is that you agree with them. I am sick and tired of trying to carry on a discussion with someone who has a one-track mind and refuses to even engage honest dialog. So end it right now. Don’t reply to this posting. If you do I will consider it harassment. I have no desire to communicate with you any longer.
Answer your questions as you change subjects, and try to escape the false claims that you post, which is the subject of my posting to you? Get real.
I corrected you about Harry Reid being a devout Mormon, he obviously is, since he is temple recommended.
The other was first asking you for the quote from the GOP party platform about the rape, incest exclusions that you made up and claimed were there, and then I finally just had to flat out correct you.
You made it up, there isn’t a rape, incest exception in the GOP pro-life platform.
That covers it.
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