HUSSEIN THE CONQUEROR -- Is Saddam Hussein the Reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon?

Sabertooth, others | October 31, 2001 | Sabertooth, others

[JasonC]

No, he is just a blowhard, as well as a murderous thug.

[Travis McGee]

Really a first rate personality study, thanks for your efforts, I am really getting an education.

I wonder how many of our boys in foggy bottom and up the river know any of these factors which may be driving history?

[Dan C]

Good Post. It jogged my memory of an article I cut out for a history project during college - which I just found. The April 19, 1989 edition of the Minneapolis Star Tribune had an article titled "Babylon restoration helps Hussein build his case." Basically the article laid out two years prior to the Gulf War that this guy viewed himself as the 2nd coming of Nebuchadnezzar and was rebuilding the ancient sites throughout the country.

The interesting paragraph in the article both in light of history and the present is this:

"But Hussein's glorification of ancient Babylon is disturbing to his neighbors, diplomats say. For the king whose palace he is rebuilding ruled an empire from the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean, embracing what now are Kuwait, Syria, Jordan, Israel and parts of Saudia Arabia."

Boy, you can't swing a dead cat in the Middle East without hitting some nutcase claiming to be some past or present biblical character.

[Sabertooth]

"He has believed for many years that he belongs up there in the pantheon of great socialist leaders: Mao Tse-tung, Castro, Tito. But until the Gulf crisis, he had been overlooked."

Where do they get this stuff?

They're only looking at part of the picture because Saddam does have a communist intellectual foundation. But, though he came to power in the 70s as a client of Leonid Brezhnev, Stalin was his idol.

he coincidences of the appearance of the pics of Hussein with the British boy and of Stalin in the poster in the article above are not simply by chance. That whole thing was Hussein's publicity stunt. He had control of the cameras and the angles.

Check it out... the boy with Saddam has the same haircut as the boy with the violin in the poster of Stalin!

But Hussein's Obsession with Nebuchadnezzar is paramount.

[Sueann]

No! He's not, because there is no such thing as reincarnation. Also, the Bible is quite clear - "it is appointed ONCE for a man to die". If you can only die once, then you certainly cannot live again.

You only get ONE opportunity to choose Jesus - that's why you can only die one time!!

However, Saddam does believe he is the King of Babylon!

[headsonpikes]

"Scourges of God" seems to be a common career path for mid-easterners of all descriptions.

Sand between their toes must make them mean or something. ;^)

[harpseal]

I think you have understood Saddam Hussien's personality, there are questions that we still do not have answered. What is his son like? What are the implications of his meglomania interacting with the meglomania of Ossama? I expect there would be a period of extreme cooperation sort of like Il Duce and the Furher.Saddam is getting older and we have no info on his physical health how will that affect things?

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[babyfreep]

fyi

[Thinkin' Gal]

Daniel 3:1 Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

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One important thing about statues [Daniel 2:31] is you can't have the head and shoulders in one place, [say Babylon] and it's legs and feet in another. [say Rome/Europe] - Jeremiah Jr

Easton's Dictionary

Dura. the circle, the plain near Babylon in which Nebuchadnezzar set up a golden image, mentioned in Dan. 3:1. The place still retains its ancient name. On one of its many mounds the pedestal of what must have been a colossal statue has been found. It has been supposed to be that of the golden image.

Al Daura is located just south of Baghdad. Same place?

Google search Daura + nuclear reactor + Israel

Google search Daura + Baghdad + gulf war

 

Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

I wonder who will replace Saddam?

[Sabertooth]

Boy, you can't swing a dead cat in the Middle East without hitting some nutcase claiming to be some past or present biblical character.

Or future Koranic character...

   Black Flags of Islam   

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Portents of the Imam al-Mahdi, the Moslems' prophesied deliverer of Jerusalem?

Click on the flags

[Sabertooth]

Huge news on the Black Flags of Islam...

The flags read: "There is no God but God and Mohammed is the messenger of God."

Bin Laden:
World Divided under Two Banners:
Christian Banner Headed by Bush and Islamic Banner

Bin Laden Urges Pakistanis to Defend Islam -Jazeera

Muhammad said: "If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan (Afghanistan),
join that army, even if you have to crawl over ice,
for that is the army of the Imam al-Mahdi
and no one can stop that army until it reaches Jerusalem."

[beowolf]

People don't want to hear this stuff. We have been told that islam is just another peaceful religion worshiping the same G_D that we do.

Nothing to see here, move along

< /sarcasm >

[Jeremiah Jr]

Saddam is nothing...

But I have a question for youse guys???

Daniel 10


Vision of the Glorious Man


Daniel's Vision by the Great River
¹ In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a message was revealed to Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar. The message was true, but the appointed time was long; and he understood the message, and had understanding of the vision. ²In those days I, Daniel, was mourning three full weeks. ³I ate no pleasant food, no meat or wine came into my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
⁴Now on the twenty-fourth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, that is, the Tigris, ⁵I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, a certain man clothed in linen, whose waist was girded with gold of Uphaz! ⁶His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude.
⁷And I, Daniel, alone saw the vision, for the men who were with me did not see the vision; but a great terror fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves. ⁸Therefore I was left alone when I saw this great vision, and no strength remained in me; for my vigor was turned to frailty in me, and I retained no strength. ⁹Yet I heard the sound of his words; and while I heard the sound of his words I was in a deep sleep on my face, with my face to the ground.


Prophecies Concerning Persia and Greece
¹⁰ Suddenly, a hand touched me, which made me tremble on my knees and on the palms of my hands. ¹¹And he said to me, "O Daniel, man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak to you, and stand upright, for I have now been sent to you." While he was speaking this word to me, I stood trembling.
¹²Then he said to me, "Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come because of your words. ¹³But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia. ¹⁴Now I have come to make you understand what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision refers to many days yet to come."
¹⁵When he had spoken such words to me, I turned my face toward the ground and became speechless. ¹⁶And suddenly, one having the likeness of the sons of men touched my lips; then I opened my mouth and spoke, saying to him who stood before me, "My lord, because of the vision my sorrows have overwhelmed me, and I have retained no strength. ¹⁷For how can this servant of my lord talk with you, my lord? As for me, no strength remains in me now, nor is any breath left in me."
¹⁸Then again, the one having the likeness of a man touched me and strengthened me. ¹⁹And he said, "O man greatly beloved, fear not! Peace be to you; be strong, yes, be strong!"
So when he spoke to me I was strengthened, and said, "Let my lord speak, for you have strengthened me."
²⁰Then he said, "Do you know why I have come to you? And now I must return to fight with the prince of Persia; and when I have gone forth, indeed the prince of Greece will come. ²¹But I will tell you what is noted in the Scripture of Truth. (No one upholds me against these, except Michael your prince.

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Who is this guy?
Note the amazingly similar description in Revelation 1!

[Thinkin' Gal]

Saddam is nothing...

Aha! But...

... the [oil] well is everything.

About those 7 stars... are they sisters?

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

The Torah sages wrote that Hashem "took two stars away from KIMAH and brought the flood!"

[Brad’s Gramma]

What a nut case he is! BTTT!!!!

[markn]

I wonder who will replace Saddam?

From what I have heard, he has put the nation into the trust of his two sons (Udai, can't remember the name of the other) in the event of his death.

[supercalifragilistic]

Habbakuk 1:5-7"[5] Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

[6] For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs.

[7] They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.

Chaldea is southern Iraq.

There is evidence in the Bible that Nebuchadnezzar will return in a "ressurected" body, to use scriptural terminology. Saddam is not Nebuchadnezzar, but he is preparing the way for Nebuchadnezzar's return as the antchrist.

Revelation 17:10,11"[10] And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. [11] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

The beast was. Now he is not(dead). But he is coming. He is the eighth king(future) and is of the seven kings(past) with the name of blasphemy.

Saddam does not prosper in his reign, so he is not Nebuchadnezzar. He is the leader who will stumble, fall and not be found IMO.

Daniel 11"[19] Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found."

Saddam was quoted on CNN in 1990 or '91 saying that if he was defeated "you won't even get one piece of my finger" to the U.S. So eventually Saddam will be defeated, though it will be an awful battle where many shall fall, according to Daniel.

[20]"Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle."

The interim ruler raises taxes and dies after a short time. [21]"And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries." Then comes the vile person, who is Nebuchadnezzar in his resurrected body.

Daniel 4"[36] At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellers and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me." "[37]Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase."

Nebuchadnezzar recognized the God of heaven(and God revealed himself to Neb on several occasions). However, there is no record of repentance on behalf of Nebuchadnezzar though God dealt with him. Had Nebuchadnezzar repented he would have returned the vessels to the temple that he had stolen and would have allowed the Jews to worship at the temple. So Nebuchadnezzar died wickedly. And he shall return wickedly.

I realize that there are many opposing views on Bible prophecy, but I think you hit on something very interesting here. I hope you don't mind me sharing a bit of what I've been studying for about the last seven years. :)

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