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Concord Monitor mea culpa over the Marland cartoon (GW Bush flies into WTC/Social Security)
Concord Monitor ^ | 2/8/02 | Mike Pride, Concord editor

Posted on 02/08/2002 7:59:07 PM PST by calvin sun

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To: VA Advogado
I think it was a fair mea culpa. It was sincere and thought out.

Yeah, he ran an offensive ad which reinforced the Democrat bromide that what ever Republicans do means Social Security is going to be wrecked. Everyone knows the budget will have zero impact on SS checks. Except the elderly the cartoonist and this editor were trying to scare out of their wits.

21 posted on 02/08/2002 8:24:17 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: cincinnati_Steve
What I find amazing is those who would use the "copyright" defense are making enemies out of those who buy their product or promote their business.

We may gather at FR but each one of us represent every area of the globe. Good job freepers who jumped on this right away. 2 in 2 days-the IOC changing their minds and now an editor's mea culpa.

22 posted on 02/08/2002 8:25:52 PM PST by swheats
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
23 posted on 02/08/2002 8:27:59 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: calvin sun
The decision to run Mike Marland's Friday editorial cartoon was mine alone, and it was a mistake.

Should have stopped here, offering all the excuses cheapens the sincerity...

Someone needs to send this guy the jpeg of the woman holding the infant out of the window of the burning tower...

I wonder if he will still try to convince himself that "the country has had time to pass through all the stages of grief,"

24 posted on 02/08/2002 8:28:20 PM PST by in the Arena
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To: okie01
"Mike Pride must not be a liberal. Not an unsalvageable one, anyway."

From the editorial:

"Rather, I read it as I thought Marland had intended it: as strong criticism of the threat that Bush's budget poses to Social Security."

Notice the wording. He doesn't say "strong criticism of what he perceives to be the threat that Bush's budget poses...", or " strong criticism of Bush's budget", or............well, you get the idea. No, Mr. Pride agrees with the cartoonist; that this bad, bad, evil Republican President wants to sink Social Security (personally, I wish he WOULD sink Social Security).

Yep, he's DEFINITELY a liberal. Salvageable? Maybe. Any more, I don't care to differentiate. Liberals are the enemy.

26 posted on 02/08/2002 8:38:26 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
Liberals are the enemy.

The only thing that those libs regret in all of this is that our tax dollars weren't used to publish that garbage.

27 posted on 02/08/2002 8:44:59 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: calvin sun
We FReeped 'em good. We FReeped 'em real good!
28 posted on 02/08/2002 8:47:24 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: calvin sun
A cartoonist needs to be able to do two things, to draw and to think.--Mike Pride

Since Mike Marland draws like a third-grader and "thinks" like a 70's acid-head, why does Pride keep using him?

An editor of a paper--even of a little flyspeck like the Concord Monitor--also needs some capacity to use the old noggin.

Mike Pride has failed miserably in the "thought pattern" department --both in publishing Marland's obscenity and then following it up with this terminally lame "apology."

29 posted on 02/08/2002 8:53:04 PM PST by henbane
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To: All
Time to heal?? I think we should send him pics of the survivors and then have him contact them all... see how much healing they have actually gone through.. or even the families of the victims....

Some of us had to be strong for the rest of our family /friends before we were allowed to grieve.... for some.. it finally gets to start. I didn't realize that there was a time period allotment allowed for grief.
30 posted on 02/08/2002 8:53:53 PM PST by Brigid
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To: seamole
At the very least you'd think an editor, of all people, would know the meaning of censorship. This guy Pride must be the editor intern. Thanks for putting him straight.
31 posted on 02/08/2002 8:57:28 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: T. P. Pole
exactly! was he implying it was ok for consumption if it was just seen in his sleepy little town in new hamnpshire? if the attack happened in los angeles and we here in boston knew no victims, i think we'd still find it in oursleves to exercise good taste. hell with this guy, he got CAUGHT! sounds like a squirm job, to me. SICK IS SICK, no matter who looks at it. this guy thinks a tree falling in an empty forest makes no sound.
32 posted on 02/08/2002 8:57:40 PM PST by nocommies
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To: seamole; toupsie
Outstanding responses in both #17 and #20!!!
33 posted on 02/08/2002 8:59:44 PM PST by kayak
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To: RightOnline; toupsie
"Yep, he's DEFINITELY a liberal. Salvageable? Maybe. Any more, I don't care to differentiate. Liberals are the enemy."

Between your and toupsie's post, I stand corrected.

And, rather than try to justify my mistaken notion, I will do what Mr. Pride should've done after his first sentence.

Quit while I'm ahead...

34 posted on 02/08/2002 9:00:28 PM PST by okie01
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To: calvin sun
The attack on the trade towers was a singular, devastating event, but my own reaction to the cartoon was not visceral.

Mr. Pride is a sick, sick man if he doesn't have a gut reaction to seeing the WTC used in such a vile political attack. That is utterly disgusting!!!!!!!!

35 posted on 02/08/2002 9:04:42 PM PST by kayak
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To: VA Advogado
Rather, I read it as I thought Marland had intended it: as strong criticism of the threat that Bush's budget poses to Social Security.

Ef him and his elitist attitude. He doesn't even realize that in his urban pressie world, they take it as a fact of life that Bush's budget is a threat to SS. They don't even take into account that it might not be a threat. In their world it does ...period.

Never mind the fact that there are some out there (like I )that would love to see social security vanquished forver.

He can kiss my a$$ with his "apology", just the fact that this garbage didn't immediately strike him as offensive and base shows what type of people they are.

I hope all of their advertisers pull out, they go out of business and he has to join the rest of us and get a real job.

36 posted on 02/08/2002 9:15:53 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: VA Advogado
I'm sorry we ran it. Marlands' intent was to provoke not offend.

This is self-serving defensive bullshit. And you think it's a sincere "mea culpa."

You must have been delighted with Clinton's many "apologies" for the "mistakes" he made, with only the best of intentions of course--

But that's what liberals always say, isn't it, to exonerate themselves and suck gullible people into letting them off the hook.

37 posted on 02/08/2002 9:17:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sabertooth
Marland is a free-lancer. He's a terrific cartoonist, and we've been lucky to have him on the Monitor's editorial pages for nearly20 years. One reason Marland has been so good is that we allow him free expression. A cartoonist needs to be able to do two things, to draw and to think.

This sounds more like a tribute to Marland rather than a real apology.

The views Marland expresses often agree with the Monitor's editorial positions, but not always. They are his views, not ours. We have declined to run a cartoon or two over the years because we found them tasteless, but this has been a rare occurrence.

That they have declined to run a cartoon or two during 20 years tells me they pretty much agree with his views.

38 posted on 02/08/2002 9:24:37 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: calvin sun
A cartoonist needs to be able to do two things, to draw and to think.

Funny how 99.9999999% of political cartoonists think only like a demonrat.

39 posted on 02/08/2002 9:26:28 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: kayak
Is this caetoon posted anywhere. I have not seen it.
40 posted on 02/08/2002 9:30:15 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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