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Governor Walker jumps ahead of the pack in latest Fox News poll.
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Posted on 04/10/2015 3:43:26 PM PDT by entropy12

Walker 15 Bush 12 Carson 11 Cruz 10 Huckabee 10 Paul 9 Rubio 8 Christie 4 Perry 3 Santorum 2 Jindal 2 Kasich 1

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Arkansas; Florida; Kentucky; Pennsylvania; Texas; Wisconsin; Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; election2016; florida; jebbush; marcorubio; mikehuckabee; polls; rickperry; ricksantorum; scott; scottwalker; tedcruz; texas; walker; wisconsin
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To: laplata
I'm saying that Walker shouldn't run until 2020 or 2024. Cruz ain't playing games -- he's declared his intentions, early and straight-forwardly.

Walker is playing games at this point -- will he run, or won't he? The ONLY thing his entry would do now is to hurt Cruz.

181 posted on 04/11/2015 11:53:58 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Well, with your thinking, the same could be said for Walker-—that Cruz is going to hurt him.

You’re going to be a wreck until you realize how things work. In walker and Cruz we have two top notch candidates.

The nominee will get the endorsement of the other—that’s a guarantee.

Are you going to sit it out if Walker wins?


182 posted on 04/11/2015 12:48:34 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Finny


The pissing contest may be uncomfortable and unpleasant, but it is NECESSARY. “

And when Walker is nominated?


183 posted on 04/11/2015 12:52:20 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: entropy12

“Jeb Bush will be your nominee. He has virtually
no one dividing moderate/RINO voters”

Because Chris Christie is polling low?


184 posted on 04/11/2015 1:49:04 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: snarkybob

“JMHO but Cruz as already alienated so many in his own party that he’s not going to get a real shot.
They will cut his knees out from under him before they even let him get close to the nomination.”

He has alienated the liberals in the GOP. If they liked him, that would mean he was one of them. And it would be business as usual.

The GOP showed us who they were when they won last November, then immediately backed Obama’s amnesty.


185 posted on 04/11/2015 1:53:25 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: Finny

“Walker tries to play it safe and protect himself, for example dancing around ethanol to say he doesn’t support it in such a way as not to offend folks who asked, while Cruz took a RISK, went out on a limb, and stated flat out “No” when asked the same question. Where does Walker stand on Obamacare?”

He’s also flipped at least 3 times on amnesty, making him a bigger flip-flopper than Romney or Kerry.


186 posted on 04/11/2015 1:56:51 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: entropy12

Ps. thanks for the schedule.

Just curious- not doubting you, but interested in how you determined the Feb 23 date. What math you used, being I’m a numbers gal. (Give me something to do with a spreadsheet and I’m happy for days).


187 posted on 04/11/2015 2:00:54 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: Hardens Hollow

The idea is that up until March 1, which has a bunch of states including Texas and Virginia, the earlier smaller contests allow for a conservative candidate to emerge from the pack without the GOP-E candidate getting too far ahead.

Contests March 1 and later will be big money media campaigns.

This is tentative, as I am unaware of whether several southern states are going to have their own Super Tuesday. That would become the date by which one conservative must emerge, or so goes the theory.


188 posted on 04/11/2015 2:13:45 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: entropy12

The problem is that you or I may be able to change our vote on in an instant but campaigns and organizations cannot. It takes many weeks for donors to move their support, for campaign organizations to hire staff, for campaigns to organize volunteers into phone banks and door to door efforts, for advertising buys to be purchased in key primary states.

We can’t assume if Walker (Cruz) drops out after New Hampshire/Iowa that Cruz (Walker) will be able to consolidate their support by South Carolina. Plus, once the primaries start, the natural urge of every candidate is to believe that if they just stay in one more round that their campaign will take off with the voters.

We’ve seen this play out over and over again. Jeb Bush will have his money, staff, and ad buys planned out by November. He will have the moderate field cleared for him. Romney is already out. Christie is in no hurry to get in. If conservatives wait until February to unite behind a single candidate, Bush will win the nomination.


189 posted on 04/11/2015 2:24:44 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Between those two I would take Cruz, but I think there are others who could emerge. It’s a little early to narrow to two.


190 posted on 04/11/2015 2:44:33 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: entropy12
It's going to come down to Walker, Cruz, and Bush.

What I don't want to see is Walker and Cruz to split the conservative vote, leading to Bush getting the nomination. This is what the GOPe wants.

Walker and Cruz need to get together at some point early in the primaries and agree to merge, with whoever is ahead getting the Pres spot, and the other getting VP. A Walker/Cruz or Cruz/Walker ticket would win.

191 posted on 04/11/2015 2:53:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: jjotto

ok, thanks


192 posted on 04/11/2015 3:47:24 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Walker and Cruz need to get together at some point early in the primaries and agree to merge, with whoever is ahead getting the Pres spot, and the other getting VP. A Walker/Cruz or Cruz/Walker ticket would win.


I like that.


193 posted on 04/11/2015 4:00:42 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Rather simple isn’t it CatherineOfAragon...

You’re right.

If a guy has been wrong for a decade on illegal immigration and a few other important issues, does that all fall by the wayside because he was a governor.

I just read one guy that is proud Walker was elected and re-elected in a Blue state. It never dawned on him what part of the reason may have been.

There are things I like about Walker, but there are other things that eliminate him from consideration from me.


194 posted on 04/11/2015 4:19:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: laplata

I agree. I wish all the conservatives would get together and put tighter a winning game plan that uses them all throughout the government and wipes out the Rinos.


195 posted on 04/11/2015 4:21:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: entropy12

Just don’t be surpised when you see it is all I am saying. Which I think you will. IMO


196 posted on 04/11/2015 4:41:24 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: PapaBear3625

I agree with you completely.


197 posted on 04/11/2015 5:00:27 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: Finny

Why should Governor Walker quit if he is ahead of Senator Cruz id delegate counts after SC primary?

Why should the Senator quit if he is ahead of the Governor in delegate count after SC primary?

The logical and fair thing to happen would be whoever is winning more delegates should stay in, and the other drop out.


198 posted on 04/11/2015 5:05:35 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: Hardens Hollow

Oh man..you ask me difficult question there.
My seat of the points calculation is telling me that lots of primaries are still left after Feb 23, 2016. If conservatives do not unite behind one candidate by then, and keep splitting conservative voters, Jeb will be the nominee.

There are not enough conservative voters in the country to place both Governor Walker and Senator Cruz ahead of Jeb Bush. Recall how 2012 turned out? Ricky & Newt fought to the bitter end, splitting conservative voters, and clearing the path for Mitt.


199 posted on 04/11/2015 5:11:22 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: Finny

I knew you’d come out on the right side of this.


200 posted on 04/11/2015 5:25:59 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Politics is downstream from culture." -- Andrew Breitbart)
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