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Statement from John Zogby on 2004 Presidential Election Results (CYA spin)
Zogby ^ | 11/3/04 | John Zogby

Posted on 11/03/2004 9:25:29 AM PST by finnman69

Statement from John Zogby on 2004 Presidential Election Results:

“We feel strongly that our pre-election polls were accurate on virtually every state. Our predictions on many of the key battleground states like Ohio and Florida were within the margin of error. I thought we captured a trend, but apparently that result didn’t materialize.

“We always saw a close race, and a close race is what we’ve got. I’ve called this the Armageddon Election for some time—a closely-divided electorate with high partisan intensity on each side."

(more from Zogby coming soon…)

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Zogby International Finds: Bush at 49.4%, Kerry at 49.1%

The telephone poll of 955 likely voters was conducted (November 1-2, 2004). The MOE is +/- 3.2


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004finalpolls; 2004poll; 2004polls; finalzogbypolls; polls; polls2004; zogby; zogby2004
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To: finnman69

for some reason I don't recall aything Zogby ever wrote or said projecting Bush as the all-time popular vote winner, eclipsing Reagain in 1984. And what is this about no mandate, like that ever stopped Clinton with his < 50% repeated victories.


41 posted on 11/03/2004 9:34:43 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: finnman69
We feel strongly that our pre-election polls were accurate on virtually every state.

I'm laughing my @ss off at this one. This is the kind of statement a pollster should be making before an election, when he's looking to promote the accuracy of his polling. This is the equivalent of John Madden picking one team to win the Super Bowl, then stating that he "feels strongly that his pick was accurate" even after his team loses.

The election is over, so there's no room for "feeling strongly" about anything. Either Zogby's pre-election polls were accurate, or they weren't. The evidence is now in, and they weren't.

42 posted on 11/03/2004 9:35:32 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: finnman69
I’ve called this the Armageddon Election for some time...

In regard to his own future as a pollster, he may be right...

43 posted on 11/03/2004 9:35:38 AM PST by danneskjold (Concession...It's the classy way to surrender...)
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To: Alberta's Child

Zogby should have had a plan like John Kerry


44 posted on 11/03/2004 9:36:57 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Zogby has completely blown it as a credible pollster. His income has just gone down the drain.


45 posted on 11/03/2004 9:37:05 AM PST by McGavin999 (George Soros just learned a very expensive lesson-America can't be bought.)
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To: finnman69

Polling Dissonance: Ohio

The Pre-Election Polls

Date: October 17, 2004.
Source: ABC News.
Poll: Kerry leads by three points, 50-47, with three percent undecided.

Date: October 20, 2004.
Source: CNN/Gallup/USA Today.
Poll: Kerry leads by one point, 48-47, with four percent undecided.

Date: October 21, 2004.
Source: Univ. of Ohio/Scripps News Service.
Poll: Kerry leads by four points, 50-46, with three percent undecided.

Date: October 25, 2004.
Source: Survey USA.
Poll: Kerry leads by three points, 50-47, with two percent undecided.

Date: October 26, 2004.
Source: Los Angeles Times.
Poll: Kerry leads by six points, 50-44, with six percent undecided.

Date: October 31, 2004.
Source: CNN/Gallup/USA Today.
Poll: Kerry leads by four points, 50-46, with four percent undecided.

The Actual Result

George Bush wins the state, by well over 100,000 votes, and by a margin of 51.0-48.5.

http://polipundit.com/


46 posted on 11/03/2004 9:37:08 AM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266944/posts
Zogby's Election Final Presidential Polls Bush 49.4% 213EV Kerry 49.1% 311EV (barf alert)


47 posted on 11/03/2004 9:37:57 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
“We feel strongly that our pre-election polls were accurate on virtually every state.

Just add 5.6% to the Bush numbers on each state, and you are accurate.

48 posted on 11/03/2004 9:38:10 AM PST by mjp
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To: finnman69

Zogby is kidding no one but himself!
Every clear thinking American knows that Z is just another 'Rat political hack.

Put a fork in yourself, Z
'cause you DONE!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


49 posted on 11/03/2004 9:39:07 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: finnman69

Zogby Predicts Kerry Will Win
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1261753/posts

One of the nation’s most respected pollsters predicts that John Kerry will win the presidency Tuesday. Zogby gave his take on the heated presidential contest to New York Daily News columnist Sydney Zion in Friday’s paper.

"It's close," Zogby said, "but in the last couple of days things have been trending toward Kerry - nationally and in the swing states. Between this and history, I think it will be Kerry."

Zogby also rebutted an article by Robert Novak published this week that indicated Zogby was predicting a Bush Victory.


50 posted on 11/03/2004 9:39:30 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Zogby Bombed ~ Bump!


52 posted on 11/03/2004 9:40:09 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: wolf24

Jay Cost was fantastic.


53 posted on 11/03/2004 9:41:36 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

Zogby built up capital in the United States for decades, and spent it all last night. This was an all-or-nothing election for Zogby, and he did everything he could to push Kerry over the top. But in the end it was not enough.

After this, Zogby should never be taken seriously again. He tipped his hand. He is obviously partisan, and was willing to act on it.


54 posted on 11/03/2004 9:43:01 AM PST by gridlock (FOUR MORE YEARS!!!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: finnman69

Look on the bright side, John. Now that you're out of the polling business, you can concentrate on recruiting 16-year-old Palestinian suicide bombers...


55 posted on 11/03/2004 9:43:08 AM PST by pabianice
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To: finnman69

I've been in Zogby polls quite a bit and I can say he/they have absolutely no clue how to frame a proper poll question, so of course they got lousy results.


56 posted on 11/03/2004 9:44:37 AM PST by JWinNC
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To: finnman69

Save for later.


57 posted on 11/03/2004 9:44:49 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: finnman69

Another case of Credibility Crash.

Last time I ever have anything todo with a Zogby poll.


58 posted on 11/03/2004 9:45:27 AM PST by Ramonan (Honor does not go out of style.)
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To: JWinNC

I was filling out 2-3 Zogby polls at a time. His polls are crap.


59 posted on 11/03/2004 9:46:18 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
SUCK IT ZOGBY!

You are irrelvant
60 posted on 11/03/2004 9:47:13 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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